madison

SAP pulls the trigger on higher support costs

By | July 16, 2008, 3:05am PDT

Summary: SAP has announced that it plans to transition all customers to its new Enterprise Support offering from January 1st, 2009. SAP is pitching this as a service that adds customer value but in reality it means a cost increase. According to the press release, SAP will incrementally ratchet support costs up to 22% by 2012: [...]

SAP has announced that it plans to transition all customers to its new Enterprise Support offering from January 1st, 2009. SAP is pitching this as a service that adds customer value but in reality it means a cost increase. According to the press release, SAP will incrementally ratchet support costs up to 22% by 2012: “For example, subject to specific contractual limitations, a typical customer paying 17 percent of maintenance base for SAP Standard Support in 2008 will pay a rate of 18.3 percent of maintenance base for SAP Enterprise Support in 2009.”

While SAP is claiming this as an enhanced offering, it is difficult to see how it will be able to justify this level of fees for customers whose deployments are complete or which do not wish to upgrade. Right now it is focusing attention on the benefits of SOA as a way of extending core functionality into what it calls composite applications.

Despite the carefully worded press statement with paid support from IDC analyst Elaina Stergiades and enthusiastic hand waving by Mike O’Dell, American SAP User Group chairperson, SAP is only claiming to have brought 350 of its customers on board in the first six months since the program was launched. That’s up from ‘nearly 200′ announced at SAPPHIRE in May. With a user base of 47,800 customers, I would not be surprised to see SAP customers considering alternatives like RiminiStreet.

Earlier in the year, RiminiStreet’s CEO Seth Ravin made clear that he is going after SAP’s customer base but would not be acquiring TomorrowNow, SAP’s troubled maintenance alternative for mostly Oracle customers. In an interview with SearchSAP.com, Ravin correctly predicted:

“They’ve said [Enterprise Support] is only for new customers, but everyone can read the writing on the wall,” Ravin said. “It puts SAP in the most expensive maintenance pool.”

RiminiStreet offers to cut maintenance costs by 50% and still claims it can make a decent profit. That’s hardly surprising when you see the profits being made by Oracle from this segment of the business.

Assuming SAP is successful in signing most up by January, 2009 then based on the numbers so far released for 2008 and the company’s projections going forward, the price hike should yield approximately $60 million in additional revenue during 2009. Not shabby when you think that most is likely to drop through to the bottom line.

Kick off your day with ZDNet's daily e-mail newsletter. It's the freshest tech news and opinion, served hot. Get it.

Topics

Dennis Howlett has been providing comment and analysis on enterprise software since 1991.

Disclosure

Dennis Howlett

Dennis Howlett is committed to maintaining the independent and opinionated stance that his writings are well known for and does not enter into contracts that would limit his freedom of expression in any way. However it is important in the interests of full disclosure to inform readers of those relationships so they can form their own judgment. This page therefore lists all Dennis Howlett’s current business relationships.

Dennis’s consulting arrangements occasionally bring him into direct or indirect business relationships with some of the companies about which he writes, and/or their competitors. Where such a relationship exists, it is disclosed at the end of any article that references the company concerned.

Dennis owns AccMan, an independently produced blog covering the professional services market, primarily focused on Europe. It is currently sponsored by selected TextLink Ads and named sponsors in the ‘Sponsored Content’ block.

He is a member of Enterprise Advocates, a loose association of consultants, and analysts who are concerned with the buyer side of the buy-sell enterprise relationship.

He is a paid contributor to IT Counts, a site dedicated to discussing technology issues as they related to ICAEW members. He also advises ICAEW on certain aspects of its member outreach programs.

He is an SAP Mentor and participates in SAP Mentor webinars. He has recently produced a guide for SAP resellers wishing to record customer videos. Other than as disclosed here, Dennis maintains no business relationship with SAP and is not financially rewarded for his role as a Mentor.

Dennis maintains relationships with a range of end user organizations and in all cases is subject to non-disclosure agreement. He has no current ‘paid for’ relationships with ITC vendors except as disclosed above although certain vendors comp travel and expenses claims. For the benefit of doubt, T&E reimbursement is a common practice among European based writers. It is often the only way we can attend important events. Even so it doesn’t impact our analysis of what vendors have to say. If you believe otherwise then feel free to ignore what is written here.

Except as mentioned above, Dennis has no other investments in any tech industry participants. This page last updated 23rd February, 2010.

Biography

Dennis Howlett

Dennis Howlett has been providing comment and analysis on enterprise software since 1991 in a variety of European trade and professional journals including CFO Magazine, The Economist and Information Week. Today, apart from being a full time blogger on innovation for professional services organisations, he is a founding member of Enterprise Irregulars and an investor in a European start-up. Prior to, Dennis was technology and tax partner in a British firm of Chartered Accountants for 10 years. Prior to that held various senior finance roles across a broad range of industries.

Talkback Most Recent of 10 Talkback(s)

  • Please be careful when you claim "paid support"
    Dennis,

    Unless you have a copy of the invoice from IDC, you shouldn't flatly state that she was paid or otherwise compensated for her quote in a press release. Bad form from an otherwise reliable blogger.

    Clearly, all the analyst firms have financial relationships with all of the tech vendors, but there is usually quite a clear firewall when it comes to the financial relationship for research and PR quotes. Mutual back-scratching aside, nobody put a gun to her head and nobody paid her for that quote. To state otherwise without proof is unethical.

    Fred
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Pantologist
    17th Jul 2008
  • paid support
    Lighten up Fred - I got a good chuckle from that one.

    For the record:
    a) it's not 'clear' that 'all' analyst firms have financial relationships with 'all' the tech vendors.
    b) Nor is there a 'clear' firewall.

    Both of those statements are patently false.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    csell
    17th Jul 2008
  • You missed the point
    Your statement that the analyst was paid for her quote is false as well. Bang away at the vendors all you like, but don't falsely accuse them of bribery.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Pantologist
    17th Jul 2008
  • It was Dennis' statement, not mine...
    ...but - just wondering - how would you know it was false?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    csell
    17th Jul 2008
  • Dennis, care to respond?
    I believe it to be false based on Mike Meyers post. I did a search and found that Mike Meyers works for SAP (Or rather has an SAP email address). I suspect he works in analyst relations as I found the email on the "analyst summit" page
    (http://www.sap.com/about/events/analyst_summit.epx)

    His post indicates that he did not pay for the quote.

    Give this, Dennis, do you want to offer proof of payment or retract your statement. I don't really think there are other options for you at this point.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    hsimpson2
    17th Jul 2008
  • RE: SAP pulls the trigger on higher support costs
    Dennis,

    Good on you for writing about this. I've often been curious/puzzled about customers willingness to stand pat on maintenance terms, or in some cases willingly pay for "premium" maintenance. These same customers have a mindset of asking for (and getting) huge discounts off list for license payments, yet from a vendors perspective, I would much rather give a hefty discount on license knowing that I'm getting full list on maintenance for the next 5-10 years MINIMUM.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Jason Wood
    17th Jul 2008
  • RE: Paid Suport
    For the record: I obtained the quote. I did not pay for it.

    michael.myers@sap.com
    ZDNet Gravatar
    MichaelEMyers
    17th Jul 2008
  • Apparentl;y Dennis is a liar
    It has now been several days and Dennis has not responded to the question of whether he can produce proof of payment in the IDC paid quote issue.

    Since he has not produced that proof, or even responded to the question, it is fair to say that he has no proof. Without that proof, the only conclusion that can be reached is that Dennis is a liar.

    Since we now know he is a liar, we now must ask how many of Dennis' other "facts" are actually lies and if anything he says is to be believed.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    hsimpson2
    21st Jul 2008
  • That's pretty serious
    It's been some days since I've visited the post so not seen this.

    Calling me a liar is a pretty darned serious thing. If you've read IDC's site, the services they provide, the background of the person concerned and know anything about the analyst industry then you will also know that analysts offer a smorgasbord of services which include endorsing statements made by vendors. They can dress them any way they like but that's paid for support. If you go further and review their business financials you'll also see the bulk of what they earn comes from supporting the vendor community. I rest my case.

    Finally, if you know anything about in house AR, you'll also know the current analyst big boys have earned a reputation for tin cupping at any opportunity.

    They can play the innocent 'we can't be bought' routine all day long but it doesn't wash. At least not with this person.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    dahowlett@...
    1st Aug 2008
  • Invoke the SLA
    hsimpson2: like me, sounds like you have a Platinum account with ZDNet which calls for a 24 hour response turnaround. Don't call them liars, invoke the penalty clause - much more satisfying...
    ZDNet Gravatar
    vmirchan
    2nd Aug 2008

Talkback - Tell Us What You Think

Formatting +
BB Codes - Note: HTML is not supported in forums
  • [b] Bold [/b]
  • [i] Italic [/i]
  • [u] Underline [/u]
  • [s] Strikethrough [/s]
  • [q] "Quote" [/q]
  • [ol][*] 1. Ordered List [/ol]
  • [ul][*] · Unordered List [/ul]
  • [pre] Preformat [/pre]
  • [quote] "Blockquote" [/quote]
Click Here

The best of ZDNet, delivered

ZDNet Newsletters

Get the best of ZDNet delivered straight to your inbox

Facebook Activity

White Papers, Webcasts, & Resources