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Twitter is Dangerous: revista

By | April 15, 2009, 6:15am PDT

Summary: I’m probably miles behind some tech complaint curve everyone else knows about, but having spent four hours trying to gain control of my Twitter account I’m at the point of pulling what’s left of my hair out. Here’s what’s happened. The last few days I noticed the number of people I am allegedly following rise dramatically. [...]

I’m probably miles behind some tech complaint curve everyone else knows about, but having spent four hours trying to gain control of my Twitter account I’m at the point of pulling what’s left of my hair out. Here’s what’s happened.

The last few days I noticed the number of people I am allegedly following rise dramatically. The reason I noticed was because I started to get a bunch of direct messages thanking me for following.  (see pic below)

Within a couple of days the number of these spurious follows had rocketed from some 1,300 to over 1,900 with around 300 added last night. I reckon I’m a reasonably sociable if curmudgeonly person but there is no way that I can realistically follow random people to that extent. Scoble’s got the lock on that ability. That’s why I regularly cull follows and only follow those where I can see a likely connection to my interests.

Without wishing to appear a total dope I asked whether anyone else has experienced the same problem. Lo and behold I am not alone - so not a total dope. (see pic below but there are other examples) The irony is that @paulthomas_tx is someone I’ve never heard of but I am following.

OK - so what to do?

My first plan was to lock down my account by going into ‘protected Tweet’ mode. That didn’t help much because the ‘follows’ continued to pour in. I am presuming there’s a backlog of messages coming through. (As I write this, the direct messages of thanks are still coming in.)

I then tried deleting the follows I don’t want. That seemed to be working but then I find I am getting follow requests from the same people - or at least some of them. Delete those as well.

You’d think that would help but no. Next I find the follow/follower list/request continuing to grow. At this stage I am getting mighty annoyed but someone suggested changing passwords. Having done that three times - in part because I was being locked out of my Twitter account - I then find I can’t login via the AIR clients I use: Seesmic Desktop or TweetDeck, nor can I get in via Nambu but I CAN get in via the native web client.

Someone else suggested blocking but I am loathe to do that to people who might otherwise be innocent and simply the victim of some ’stuff’ of which they are unaware. Some candidates however were pretty obvious so they got the block treatment.

Next step - get help from Twitter. See below:

Apologies for the small image size but when I sent the original lockout query along with some details about the other problems, Twitter’s autoresponder assumed I was talking about login problems and replied: “This problem is deemed solved.” Puhleeeease. The lockout problem cleared so that’s one issue out the way. It would have helped if Twitter provided a time estimate for lockout instead of it’s ‘hang on’ message.

I have been successfully using Topify to filter Twitter messages coming in via email but it doesn’t work as well in protected mode. The result is that my email inbox is being swamped with follow requests. That’s easily solved with more filtering but waking up to 154 follower requests was not my idea of fun.

What’s happened? I really don’t know. People in my network made good suggestions for at least temporarily fixing the problem for which I am immensely grateful. But… as an enterprisey person with plenty of things to do other than clean out Twitter crap, this is unacceptable. It reminds me of the days when I used to clear up Windows infections. Twitter support has to improve.

Autoresponders are fine when they work, but when they don’t they’re a guaranteed way to elevate the grump levels. Locking out the account because of failed logins is fine but discriminating between services is not. It’s confusing.

Operating a service that is drop dead easy is fine, but having issues that require tech support solutions that are undocumented or not immediately obvious is far from acceptable for the average person.

It has been suggested I might have picked up the ‘Mikeyy’ or ‘StalkDaily’ Twitter worms or some such. I have no idea but couldn’t Twitter scan accounts for this, notify individually and then do a clean up? Robin Wauters at TechCrunch documented a fourth round of the worm infection and said that Twitter is advising. Unfortunately, the link he provides goes to a dead Twitter page.

Back in December 2007, Mike Krigsman declared Twitter is Dangerous. At the time he was thinking of other issues. I’m thinking that with Salesforce.com and others jumping on the Twitter train, the issues I have experienced for reasons I still cannot fathom renders Twitter even MORE dangerous. Questions:

  • Do I really want my business email junked up with spurious follows/follower requests? If not then what is Twitter prepared to do to provide users with protection against this kind of problem yet still allow the service to grow?
  • Does Twitter have coherent processes in place to help its users? This seems to have been an ongoing issue that as yet remains unresolved.
  • Is the notion of an open API that has no apparent requirement for destruction or malware testing acceptable? In the enterprise the answer is a solid no but with consumery apps creeping into the enterprise is it any surprise when IT stamps them out?
  • What are established services like Salesforce.com doing to ensure that Twitter users get what they want from the service but without this type of headache?
  • Has the time come for more attention to be paid to services like Yammer or ESME where use issues inside the firewall are being addressed but which will have to extend outwards at some point?
  • As Dick Hirsch asked: Am I ready to declare Twitter bankruptcy? Answer: I’m within a gnat’s whisker.

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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
FAULKNE 13th Oct
Good day to confirm this comment I would appreciate T h e b e s t o f Z D N e t d e l i v e r e d your website very nice to everyone Yes, Oracle is the only one with shared-disk architecture, but that is there advantage. It means you can add or remove nodes and the database lives on. In a shared nothing architecture, if you lose a node, you lose the system. I'm sure Oracle appreciates EMC highlighting their advantage.I also desire to signal in your RSS feeds. Thank you as soon as once again and maintain up the great operate Awesome post! Thank you very much || thanks for nice content this is really benefit to me.
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Only fools spew private data....
Christian_<>< 15th Apr 2009
Only a fool spews private data and pictures on
a public domain full of identity thieves running
wild.

People will regret using these sites, it will
come back and bite em....

Mark my words.
wink
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I couldn't agree more. (nt)
IT_Guy_z 15th Apr 2009
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Agree. Ask yourself one question
minardi 16th Apr 2009
Do you really need Twitter?
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
jrg5067 15th Apr 2009
The more popular it gets, the more problems it brings.
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Most are / can be Spam
Maarek Stele 15th Apr 2009
Even though they are following you, you won't see their posts until you follow them, remember that. People follow you based on what you post since their user is actually a search engine looking for specific words or phrases. If someone is following you, check out their site and see if they just don't retweet someone else and they post actual conjugal thoughts.

Oh, and stop posting your name in your blogs if you don't want people to "follow" you. If you want, create a new account and disable the flooded one.
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Or... maybe...
compudog 15th Apr 2009
"Tweeters" could get a life as an alternative to spending half of the one they're living figuring out how to deal with a whole new time-sink world of spam and security/identity issues. Honestly... what is the point???
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What's your vector Victor?
no_zd_user_name 15th Apr 2009
Does anyone seriously think that Twitter is not a vector for major security issues?

Suggestion: Avoid it 'like the plague'.
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roger, Roger
djmik 15th Apr 2009
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Yes?
Roger Ramjet 16th Apr 2009
wink
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Innovation thy name is Twitter
ThePrairiePrankster 15th Apr 2009
It's a feature.ROTFLMAO

MySpace had a similar problem like this a few years ago and they fixed it. I'm sure they great minds at the not for profit Twitter will figure it out someday.
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MySpace still pretty dangerous.
crp@... 16th Apr 2009
Hello,

Recently, my nephew was at my house, and asked me to load his MySpace page on my computer.

Fortunately, I am running Ubuntu Linux on it, as when I got to his page, I discovered that it was compromised in two different places.

I used Firefox's Add On Web Developer to examine his page, and determine the urls that were added to it that led to malware sites.

Also, MySpace user's are usually clueless to the mechanics involved in creating a usable web page.

Some of their front pages are so large to load, with multiple videos and pictures, and little applications [a.k.a. security holes] loaded into their talk back channels, that an attempt to do so, will often result in a hung browser, and an overloaded, unresponsive system.

Having only 512 MiB of RAM, this problem affects me pretty easily on MySpace.

The ability for people commenting on someone's MySpace page, to add applications to their comments, is a very non secure thing to be doing, as it apparently is allowing the compromise of those pages which allow it.

Oh well, I'm not much into surfing "Social Sites" in the first place.

Later, Ray Parrish
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exactly...
sir_cheats_alot@... 16th Apr 2009
the reason it's foolish for networking sites to allow people to use html codes in their profiles and postings. naturally they don't seem to care about the potential security issues involved. Not sure how much or if at all Myspace monitors that stuff.

PS: i used to have that same issue on myspace with that amount of ram...then i found a pair of 1GB ram chips at best buy on sale. at the time it was a pretty good deal i thought...2GB for $130. well.. when you consider the reliability of postal services for transporting fragile equipment anyway.
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Twitter most likely isn't the problem
serious_cat 24th Apr 2009
The biggest MySpace problem (and I'm guessing the problem here as well) is simply that the links in the messages lead to spoof login pages which then use the harvested login info to send out more spam using the account. You can patch all the other security holes that exist, but there's generally nothing more that can be done about having links to spoof logins posted than not falling for the trick.
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to waste time. Pffttt...
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
weemooseus@... 15th Apr 2009
Just for fun, put the words sex and drugs in one of your tweets, bound to double your followers.
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Twitter is a Silly Fad
jpr75_z Updated - 15th Apr 2009
Drop it. Do you really need it? What is your ROI on the time your are spending on an obviously flawed product. Twitter is just the latest tech/Internet fad that is basically useless, but all the sheep out there want to be part of the flock so they are joining Twitter. The name tells you all you need to know. Just say No to silly Twitter!
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Social Sites
Cosmo54 Updated - 15th Apr 2009
I seriously suspect the intelligence of people who use "networking" sites like MySpace, Facebook, and Twitter. What's so difficult about using regular email? And no, I don't mean spamming everyone you know with your stupid mailing list and forwards, but individual emails directed to specific friends and family members, and only as needed? Oh, but most people are too self-centered and lazy for that kind of good sense, I guess.
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Take a step off your high horse...
Average-IT-Guy Updated - 16th Apr 2009
Did you read your mesasge and sit back basking in your own smug glow of self-satifaction of how the fact you do not use a social networking site makes you a more intelligent person that the people that do?

Social networking sites are actually really handy for people to keep in touch with each other. I use facebook to keep in touch with my family and friends who I don't live near anymore. It's easier to share photo's with them and with friends without sending a bunch of jpgs out to 8 different people.

Self centred and lazy? Dude. Not being funny but you have come across as an ignorant idiot who seems to not use these sites out of principle or the fact that you fear it will make you look stupid. Which in not using them and then posting this message has actually made you look even MORE stupid.

Don't get me wrong. They have their flaws and can be annoying (Facebook and it's endless applications) but if used INTELLIGENTLY it can be a tool that's a lot more useful and versatile tool than email. Just as email was an advancement on snail mail.

So come down from your high horse and stop smelling your own f*rts thinking you are better than everyone because you don't use this social networking tool.
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Sorry
sackbut 16th Apr 2009
but he's right on track!
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Yes, twitter/facebook/etc. have their flaws
(including security) but they certainly can
provide value to people's lives too. Face to
face, phone, email, web and social networking
communications all have their role.
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actually..
sir_cheats_alot@... 16th Apr 2009
I'm more inclined to side with him...better then following someone led by lies, no? :P yeah; they are nice to keep in touch with certain people...but most of the time its just a temporary situation.
seriously though.. your family and friends need your email in order to invite you to these sites, so .. why not just send you an email now and then? it's a bit more practical that way, and not everyone wants to see what some people are wanting to share with only a couple friends/family members wink.
remember: yahoo used to do exactly what Myspace and other sites do. Make a photo album and share it, but they recently removed briefcase because nobody was using it. Granted.. yahoo sucks...but..so does having to follow people to a different social networking site every 4-13 months. because for some reason they wanted to be somewhere new instead of taking the time to block people...why? because they are too lazy to look for the option to do it. has very little to do with arrogance...its just a huge pain in the butt. I can't say how many people i know that have gone from myspace, to myyearbook, to facebook, and then just dropped off all of them completely(along with all instant messengers).

in short.. it's often best to keep it simple...phone, email and snail mail are the best ways to do that.
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
cj100570@... 16th Apr 2009
Twitter is no more dangerous than a glass of water. It's how you use it that makes it dangerous. I've never had any issues with Twitter because I use common sense. I post 90% of my tweets directly from my Twitter page and I never, ever, visit anyone else's page! And for gods sake....log out before navigating to other pages.
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aggrivation factor
CaptOska 16th Apr 2009
apparently, you are more patient than I am.
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
amerfrog 16th Apr 2009
Facebook and Linked In. Period.
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
anogee 16th Apr 2009
Twitter is a waste of time, as you already have demonstrated.
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why are you wasting your time with this?
cwallen19803@... 16th Apr 2009
it obviously is turning out to be not the convienence you had hoped it would be. fall back on more conventional methods. when is the last time you had someone hack a face to face?
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
Beechcraft 17th Apr 2009
Gee, If I had the time you spend on Twitter, I would surely do something constructive with it, instead of wasting it. Just another time, effort and resource black hole. Who cares, I have real live friends, and when I want to communicate with them, I can call them, or drop in on them and I'm not limited to 140 characters of communication. What a sad state of social interaction.
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
thelingokid 24th Apr 2009
Great post. It seems that there are always issues with software and software as a service when the number of users grows to a point that is worth exploiting/taking advantage of by SPAMMERS or bot nets or whatever. I think it is just the logical progression of these things.

Now, that being said, I DO NOT think it is OK. I am just identifying that it is a pattern that continues to repeat regardless of safety precautions and the best efforts of the software developers. It is worth mentioning that even though Twitter is providing a dead simple application to use, that does not mean that it is that simple to manage traffic, trouble shoot errors and help requests, make core changes and improvements, etc.

All that said, the instantaneous nature of Twitter does not lend itself to any down time, for any reason, and that might very well be twitters biggest problem.

We want our instant gratification if you will.

Just my $.02
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
mrsone 10th May 2009
One good point the author made was to mention how useless Twitter "support" is when it comes to handling problems with accounts. I have a T-mobile account and I wanted to use Twitter via SMS. My phone would never make it past verification mode, and after contacting T-mobile and verifying that I could receive send and receive texts from short SMS codes, I contacted Twitter to see what the problem was.

I almost always got auto-response emails that had nothing to do with my requests. They mainly focused on how the verification process works, which is already detailed in the online Twitter support. Another auto-response that I got was about deleting my account, which I did not want to do at the time. I contacted Twitter several times about the issue, and got the same two responses each time even from real "support" agents. Then they would always consider my ticket "closed" even when I reported that I was still having the problem.

I deleted my account, and I won't be using Twitter anymore.
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fyrevortex 17th May 2009
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
Stevens Davies 18th May 2009
Why in the world did you use your business e-mail account for twitter? Have you used the internet before?!?! You didn't think something like this could happen, and maybe you should use a backup free account for non business stuff?

That one is all on you, buddy and not twitter's fault at all...
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Inevitable
Greenknight_z 19th May 2009
Anyone who didn't foresee this happening with Twitter just wasn't thinking.
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RE: Twitter is Dangerous: revista
Martinelli_m 4th Jun 2009
It's very nice to read someone trying to speak objectively about twitter, not only talking loud about it's goodies. Since I saw it for the first time, i've always been thinking about the day it became unsecure, or viruses and other threats would arrive to the twitter world. Maybe the time for this has arrived?

Thx
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