Bing: a present day "Dogpile"

Bing: a present day "Dogpile"

Summary: My editor-in-chief Larry Dignan posted a short time ago about Bing, Microsoft's newly branded search engine. His first thoughts were that of positive ones and had a nice first impression of the site as:Bing is quick (all posts);The interface is clean;And the search results were handy.

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My editor-in-chief Larry Dignan posted a short time ago about Bing, Microsoft's newly branded search engine. His first thoughts were that of positive ones and had a nice first impression of the site as:

I have to disagree.

Bing, at the moment, is merely a reincarnation of Live Search, Microsoft's failed search engine. There is little-to-nothing new in the Bing release, except the ridiculous name and features seemingly stolen from Google.

Dogpile was one of the reasonable search engine brands during the late 90's and early 00's, which when the Internet generation was just starting, seemed an unusual but likely choice due to the name of the engine. Where is it now? Around 1,500 in the Alexa traffic rank. I mean, people search for Neowin more than they search for Dogpile, which really puts them to shame.

With Bing being a "difference engine" which we have yet to see, there may well be some new advancements which bridges that of Google and WolframAlpha; Bing being the middle-man in the search arena, but I am not holding my breath.

For a start:

  • The front page is too cluttered and confusing. Sure, it's nice to have some graphics there and personalise the page a bit, but it takes my eyes a while to adjust to where the search box is.
  • People want search, and nothing more. It's a brave attempt of Microsoft's to try and broaden the intellectual horizons of those visiting the site, but let's face it, if you want search, you don't really want anything else. You'll want a search engine that will yield results straight away and don't really want to be faffing around with "hot air ballooning" or "holidays in Turkey". If you wanted a holiday in Turkey, you would have searched for it already. Stop preempting my thoughts!

    • Bing is a stupid name. Google isn't much better but it has been defined in our vocabulary as a statue of our lives; a pillar of our society. People will continue to "Google" a term, but I can't seeing "Bing" catching on too far. Use it too often and you'll start to sound like a Mr. Bean ripoff.

    • There's nothing spectacularly new. People normally expect a new product to have new features. Most of the time, when a product has changed name it's normally in line with a new set of features. Maybe I simply haven't noticed any changes, considering myself and millions of others never used Live Search to begin with.

    The long and the short of it is that Microsoft can plough hundreds of millions of dollars into online search and still maintain it. They won't stop until they beat Google, and it will simply never happen.

    Go home, Microsoft. Sleep on it, and wake up in the morning with something new and exciting. Don't compete with something you know you can't contend with.

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      • The Lady doth...

        protest....

        The in-browser video preview won me over as well as seperation by catagory search and related searches. Much better than Google in that regard.
        pdskep
      • RE: Bing: a present day

        I suggest people read the far more informed and useful reviews of Bing all of which agreee that it is a huge improvement over Live but not enough to worry google.

        What does this loser have to offer?

        "Bing is a stupid" name is a deary and lame criticism that has been leveled at every weird name triumph over the past decade from google to Wii. Pointless. No one with so little to say should have bother posting.

        In fact there are some very nice features in shopping and services searching that Wired and other more interesting and smart publications cover. They show screenshots and you know, seemed to have used the service unlike this poster who could have written up this worthless blather without popping open a browser window.
        Helio99000
        • Couldn't agree more

          Lame review. If I want insight I'll "Bing" it or "Google" it but will almost certainly leave "Zack Whittaker" and "Insightful" out of the search.
          marksashton
        • Yes, reality can be lame,

          real LAME in the case of BING!

          But it's still very real, no matter how much you dislike it it will be what it is: lame,...   and real.
          InAction Man
          • Some helpful tips!

            Its not our fault that you are a jobless loser. If you have time to kill, go learn something useful, update your resume, get a gf/bf, take a shower, start working out. Stop posting useless garbage on all topics that you have no clue about. Seriously you make yourself look like a fool. Well then again that's who you really are so you can't do much about that.
            Dear sad InAction man, get some action in your life, but first get a life.
            micks_tricks
            • Try to cool down! I'm sorry to learn that reality isn't being easy on you

              but that's not my fault. There's no use in charging that on me.

              I fear you may be having problems with your attitude. Try to change your attitude towards life and I'm sure you'll see some things change for the better.

              I wish you good luck in your efforts!
              InAction Man
              • hmm...

                [i]I fear you may be having problems with your attitude. Try to change your attitude towards life and I'm sure you'll see some things change for the better.[/i]

                From the same guy who posted:

                [i]But it's still very real, no matter how much you dislike it it will be what it is: lame,... and real. [/i]

                Interesting.
                Badgered
              • From the perspective of bing

                reality will be what it is: lame... and real.

                Just like I wrote before! Nothing has changed.
                InAction Man
              • Ok....

                [i]reality will be what it is: lame... and real. Just like I wrote before! Nothing has changed.[/i]

                In that case, I'd say to you.... "I fear you may be having problems with your attitude. Try to change your attitude towards life and I'm sure you'll see some things change for the better."
                Badgered
              • You're taking it personally. DON'T!

                My remarks are targeted at bing but somehow you seem to be willing to fit them too well.
                InAction Man
              • uh huh...

                [i]You're taking it personally. DON'T! My remarks are targeted at bing but somehow you seem to be willing to fit them too well.[/i]

                Taking it personally? What are you talking about? Ya know, I thought you were a bit off your rocker... now I'm pretty sure you are.
                Badgered
              • @badger

                You're nuts!
                InAction Man
              • Pot... meet kettle (NT)

                .
                Badgered
        • No one takes Zack seriously around here..

          He's just a KID trying to prove otherwise. You remember being a kid right?
          silent.griffin
          • Zack

            nailed it <b style="font-size:150%">ON THE HEAD</b>!!!
            InAction Man
      • Bing: Live Search makeover

        I see no difference between Bing's core search algorithms and Live Search's core search algorithms. I don't think MS gets it that people prefer to stick with search engines that provide the best core results for a wide range of search queries - from queries using the simplest, to the most complex search phrases. Google and Yahoo do much, much better than Live Search / Bing with complex search phrases, and at least edges out MS for most other types of search phrases in general search. MS does better in certain categories of search, but the complexity or trouble of hopping between two or more search engines is just not worth it. Personally I use MS' maps service exclusively, but I do this apart from MS' general Internet search technology.

        I think this whole Bing this is going to bomb. Prettying up and promoting an inferior service is just not going to work.
        P. Douglas
      • Get real

        So..."Bing is a stupid name" is the best you can do? Really? Give me a freakin' break. Yes, we're all entitled to an opinion and since your employer buys pixels by the barrel I guess yours gets a little more visibility than others but that's just a lame...yes, stupid comment. Think of it this way: if a new company were to start-up a search engine today and said they were going to call it Google...what would you say? Yes, you'd almost certainly say "Google is a stupid name." Would you have been right? Names are almost never well received when they first come out. They take a while to grow on you. I'm sure you were still in high school but try to imagine the first time you heard the name Blackberry for a PDA. I bet that was a "stupid" name too, right? Jeesh.
        marksashton
        • Maybe...

          ...rather than saying "Bing is a stupid name"
          the author should have simply said "Why change
          the name? Live.com was just fine. Microsoft
          is going to keep re-branding itself into
          oblivion. How many times has Google changed
          their name? Microsoft hasn't changed its name,
          either. So, why are they going to keep
          changing the name of their search engine? How
          about they just keep reinventing their search
          engine while maintaining the same brand?"
          BIGELLOW
          • What they should do:

            Microsoft should buy search.com from CBS and use a name that makes sense.


            Bing is a stupid ass name. I wouldn't use the service now for that very reason. Ping would have been a little better.
            gtatransam@...
      • RE: Bing: a present day

        I love these guys who find companies like Google and Apple to be their religion, and always discount Microsoft by calling them a non-innovator. No matter what Microsoft does, these folks always thumb their noses at it. I would love to see what these guys said back in the day of Novell, Lotus 1-2-3, WordPerfect, AOL, Netscape, etc. If one thing History has taught us in the information age, it's that Microsoft can never be ruled out, and often more than not, wins the battle at the end.
        georgeh36