Kicking Internet pirates off the web

Kicking Internet pirates off the web

Summary: We take having the Internet for granted. Wherever we go, whether we have our laptops or our tablet devices, even our mobile phones, we can connect to 'some form' of the world wide web.

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Boujourrrrrr. We iz takinn yurr internetz. Le boof!We take having the Internet for granted. Wherever we go, whether we have our laptops or our tablet devices, even our mobile phones, we can connect to 'some form' of the world wide web. We can check Facebook on the Tube, we can send emails to our colleagues when we're in a Starbucks having our caramel and peppermint mocha latte with a triple shot of espresso, heavy on the whipped cream, with a skinny whip frap pour whole milk on top with a couple of shakes of cinnamon, or instant message our friends when we're at the university library.

(If anyone actually orders that drink at a Starbucks with proof - you get serious brownie points)

But the French government is closer than ever to getting Internet pirates kicked off the web permanently. You may think, "pfft, sure, they bloody well deserve it, the thieving little gits". Think twice. Whilst the French president Nicolas Sarkozy calls this, "a decisive moment for the future of a civilised Internet", it makes me think whether he's just annoyed that the popularity of such a common medium is what makes his incredibly hot wife more popular than him.[citation needed]

Nevertheless, some consider having access to the Internet "an essential commodity" and that blocking access would conflict with "civil liberties and human rights". The French think this. You get three strikes, warnings which are emailed and posted to you, and if you break those three strikes, you'll be barred from using or accessing the world wide web.

Thankfully, the rest of the European Parliament have rejected such calls to extend this across Europe, whilst Sweden is slowly advancing its way into passing a similar law to the French. But have they all really thought about it?

Without the Internet, which in essence, means having a device connected to a wider network of computers, people banned may not be able to be hooked up to monitoring machines in hospitals, have full access to cellphones, in certain countries it would mean no more voting, and perhaps not even being able to pay your taxes. I stress to add at this point, I say this in theory.

Joni Mitchell on my iPod. Yay!

So many of us pirate without necessarily realising it. As I've said before, the legal jargon isn't easy to understand to the ordinary lay person, and natural law of allowing your little sister to burn a copy of a CD you bought is illegal - for example. Why is it? She's my sister. She can have Joni Mitchell on her iPod if she so chooses to.

So what's your take on it? Opinions, thoughts, ramblings, ravings - throw me whatever you've got, because I personally think the occasional heavy fine will deter those who pirate knowingly, willingly and without due care or attention. Talk to me.

Topics: Piracy, Browser, Enterprise Software, Security

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  • Piracy

    'They'still haven't figured it out!! Make the product a fair price and people will happily pay for it. With a blank CD at 50 cents, who will pay $20 from a shop for an 'Imported'music CD? PERCEIVED VALUE is the key. At $5 nobody would put in the time and effort to rip a CD. The people have spoken - "Your product is TOO dear"
    grumble2
    • I agree

      I am an aspiring graphic artist with interests in 3D modeling as well as just photo touch up and manipulation. How am I supposed to learn these tools of the trade; Photoshop CS4, 3D Studio Max, Maya...if I can't use them and learn them inside and out? Adobe CS4 Master Collection- $2,600, 3Ds Max 2009-$3,495....I don't have that kind of money, but these are the in demand tools of the trade. If you want a grphic design job, they want you to know the latest and greatest tools. How can someone do that when they are priced so outrageously high?

      Why do people pirate music and movies?...

      DVD-$20
      DVD-R DL $35/10 pack or $3.50 per disc.

      CD-$15
      CD-R $15/100 pack or $.15 per disc.

      Someone please justify the differences in price. Please.

      I know there are other costs behind producing these products, but honestly, a retail CD costs literally 100 times what it costs to pirate. DVD's are almost 6 times more expensive to buy than pirate..
      NamelessFor Now
      • So your solution is to steal it?

        A Mercedes costs a lot, lot more than my Hyundai Accent and that isn't fair. I like Mercedes. I want a Mercedes. I should have a Mercedes. So I'll just walk into a Mercedes dealership and steal one. That will teach them a lesson about over pricing their cars!

        How does that make any less sense than stealing music or software?
        cornpie
        • Here's how its different.

          "How does that make any less sense than stealing music
          or software?"

          Suppose your friend owns that Mercedes that you want
          and love. Your friend has invented a machine that
          when he drives his Mercedes into it 2 drive out; His
          and one exactly like his. It doesn't belong to
          anybody it's an exact duplicate of your friends
          Mercedes.
          Your friend says "Here, I made the cool copy of my
          Mercedes you can have it for free". Would you take
          it?

          Thats how its different.
          Kevin Derby
          • That's total BS ...

            How would the guy that aspires to be a graphic artist like it if, when he becomes one, someone sees a project he's working on, copies it and sells it to his client before he gets a chance to?

            According to Kevin Derby and anonymous, that's okay.

            But then, it's okay to steal from someone else, just not me, right?
            rebrinsonmd9
          • That's total BS

            That's right. You nailed it. It's OK to steal as long as
            A: It's not from me or anyone I know
            B: I don't get caught

            whew. I've been waiting a long time to get that off my chest. Thanks.
            majoritywhip
          • The problem I have with that statement is

            two words: "sells it".

            More accurate, IMO, would be, "Gives it away for free to his client and a thousand other people who have no use for it but were intrigued by the filename and picked it up in one of their countless sweeps of the internet for things to acquire."
            hiraghm
          • Every free copy costs the artist a lost opportunity to sell. nt

            nt
            T1Oracle
          • What a crock of ... NT

            NT
            Timpraetor
        • Steal?

          Wrong analogy. If the Mercedes dealer could turn a key, type in a number and 100 new cars just popped up in his showroom perfectly replicated you would be entitled to think it a rip-off at $50000 each. Thats software.
          Who is the pirate, the trader selling "designer" handbags costing $20 each for $75, or the label owner paying $30 each and selling for $800.
          Keithgl
        • And another difference

          They sell the CDs for MANY times (10 to 100 or even
          more) what it costs to make them. Where as the
          Mercedes was probably sold for twice what it costed to
          make, at most. Probably not even that.
          AzuMao
        • Silly Argument

          This is a silly argument for several reasons. First, if a person "steals" an ebook or music or whatever, no one loses any money- unless you can prove that the "pirate" would have bought the product if he couldn't pirate it.
          If the pirate doesn't have the money or inclination to buy the product, well, no money is lost.

          If a thief steals a Mercedes, money is lost no matter what.

          Furthermore, let's examine M$; although they sound off about piracy, software piracy gave them market share back in the days of Windows 3.1 and made them the huge business they are today. Along similar lines, ask yourself how many people have pirated a song, then went and bought the group's album?

          And look at those evil READERS that borrow books from libraries and deprive struggling authors. Is this really any different than piracy?

          "Piracy" is a silly term, too- few of these so-called digital "pirates" know how to handle a sword or flintlock, and fewer still know the finer points of making captives walk the plank. Shiver me timbers!
          wjgrimm
          • Very Intellectual ...

            ... no sword and patch over their eye, so they aren't committing piracy ... right.

            By the way, if you check out a book from the library, take it home and make a copy of it, you've violated copyright law.

            Why don't the people who burn CD's illegally simply turn on the radio and wait for their favorite song to come on? That's legally free.

            Sure, a plastic CD is cheap, but what's the value of the intellectual or artistic property on it?

            Why not just sneak into the concert instead of paying $100 for a ticket?

            Why not just pick up that candy bar in the 7-11, put it in your pocket and walk out without paying because you can?

            What's the difference?
            rebrinsonmd9
          • copy and share the broadcast-is that a violation

            When I was a teenager in the 70s, I used to record the FM broadcasts and put together a poor man's compilation on 8 track. I'd also trade these compilations with others. Back then, the so-called album rock stations didn't talk over the beginning and ending of songs, so other than a heavily compressed audio, it was pretty good. Of course, when I purchased an albut, the first thing I'd do would be transfer (copy) it to my dad's reel-to-reel (at 15 ips, it was very good quality) and eventually to 8 track or cassette.

            Was that piracy?
            markdean
          • No And Yes

            Making copies for your personal or family use of either broadcast content or an LP album was not a violation of the Fair Use Doctrine of Copyright Law.

            Trading with others was a violation for you and for everyone who traded with you. You were engaging in commerce by such trade and gaining personally from it.

            The right of "fair use"

            http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

            for entertainment media was established in the famous Betamax case of 1984:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._v._Universal_City_Studios

            http://www.sony.net/Fun/SH/1-31/h1.html
            Cardhu
          • According to RIAA, yes

            I'm not sure how it ended up, but RIAA went after one guy because he had backups of his music on a computer in a folder that COULD be accessed by someone on the internet. He said he wasn't sharing them, and never had shared them; they were for use with his MP3 player. I'm not even sure if the files had been accessed via a file sharing program. Considering that the company they use to detect illegal file sharing is paid by the person they "prove" shared, their techniques are questionable.
            library assistant
          • The Big Diffrence

            Many of these recording artists don't even receive a substantial amount of the money that is made off of LEGAL copies of music. There for it would be more in their intrest to let you copy the music for free off the internet and when you start to like what you here, you go to the concert. This works out more for the artist due to the fact that they will need to pay lower recording cost due the fact that the record lables will be useless and the consumers can listen to their favorite artists for free when ever they want. As for software, who cares. It takes software programers a year or so to produce a product while getting paid between $50-$80 per hour, and that is only if they are not just upgrading a lower version to a better product (i.e. Microsoft Office 2003 to 2007). So while they are fooling around and getting paid more money in one day than most average citizens you have to bust you butt at work to come home and get charged $500 for the software they just made. Now seeing as in how once the final product is completed it is stored on multiple drives and then mass produced onto disc that range from 10 cents to $1.50, the amount of profit that is far greater than production cost. So with this in mind if it is such a big deal to profit off of software, then they should lower the cost of paying the engineers and programers, to make the consumers more willing to buy a product at a lower price. So in reality the real pirates are the ones that force others to pay rediculous prices for such a lower cost product. And for all of those that think that pirating is still wrong, just think about that the next time that you are hanging out with friends and listening t music off of someone's iPod and here a song that you like and ask them to load it on your iPod. If they do both of you are now criminals and pirates. It doesn't seem fair does it?
            Wingman84
          • Knowledge is your friend

            Please gain some.

            You are completely wrong in your portrayal of software development.

            Not to mention, you are not FORCED to do anything. You choose to do, or not to do.
            trent1
        • RE: So your solution is to steal it?

          If I steal a car then the car is gone:
          If I copy a software program I legally obtained and bought and decide to share it with friend(s) it is not stealing: it is called sharing, NOT stealing! The original still exists. Myself and many others see copyright laws as GREEDY and too prohibitive into our civil liberties & daily lives. All Hollywood cares about is creating their own draconian laws to milk as much money out of people as possible. They will use guilt, unreasonable laws, anything to pick people's pocket. If I copy TV shows off of cable TV and share it with friends, is this a bad idea? According to copyright laws that Hollywood lobbied into existence with campaign contribution payoffs to Senators in order to create laws they wanted, this is breaking current copyright laws. Where does it end?
          claymann39
          • Warped mentality ...

            Who's the pickpocket?

            If you think it's overpriced, don't buy it.

            ... obviously a person who never had an original idea, who never invented or created something intellectually or artistically which was of any value or developed a level of skill or service worthy of selling for a fee or wage ...

            Obviously, the human race has its two legged cockroaches.
            rebrinsonmd9