When a degree and experience means nothing on a résumé

By | June 25, 2010, 4:08pm PDT

Summary: Guest post: Elliot Harrison, with many levels of decent experience in writing and photography, along with this degree. What do they mean for the employment agencies? Diddly squat.

Zack Whittaker unfortunately melted in the heat today, and is being solidified by medical professionals as you see this. This guest post was written by Elliot Harrison. Normal programming on Monday: that is, if they can separate this gooey mess from this inconveniently placed bowl of Ramen noodles.

If you had come up to me today at two o’clock in the afternoon and asked me how my day was going,  I would have told you it had been just awful. The university’s summer semester has been completed and a host of graduates, fresher’s and second year students have all descended upon the job market to either continue with their lives or try and find some kind of summer job.

Naturally, despite my experience in journalism and professional photography, I decided to hit temping agencies galore in an effort to find some work, anything to get me out of the house and into credit.

However, it wasn’t until this morning when I realised just how difficult this notion can be. I had managed to get an appointment to register with a temping agency in my home town, and after being told there were a few forms to sign and a couple of computer tests to take, I was confident I would be on my way home fairly swiftly to watch the tennis; the work would come and find me.

The temping job red tape

The reality was I sat there two hours, which is an hour and a half longer than I think was actually necessary in a place where much of the process seemed ridiculous, invasive and unnecessary.

Firstly, I was taken through my details and confirmed that I am Elliot and not in fact an impostor, by producing my passport - a fairly usual procedure. However they soon became a little more absurd. Many different opt-out forms and a myriad of separate declarations were shoved under my nose, and most bizarrely a declaration of confidentiality with Sony.

This got my brain ticking, so I asked: “Why am I signing a confidentially agreement with Sony?”. The ‘employment expert’ replied that Sony is one of their largest providers of employment at the agency, and that if I did get a job there (which in my pessimistic eyes was unlikely) I would need to promise to be on my best behaviour and not send Sony secrets to other companies or individuals.

An utterly bizarre moment: why bother preempting employment (which ironically I almost certainly will not get on a temporary basis) and then ask me to sign some kind of confidentiality agreement with a company who will not employ me? I have to admit I was a little spooked by it but I signed the form to get on with the process which was being constantly interrupted by system failures on the network and phone calls, presumably to IT, who never answered, the problem persisting.

Then there was, in my opinion, the extremely invasive process of compiling all of my current and past data onto the system, meaning the need for the temping officials to get in touch with my university to confirm I am registered, the addresses and phone numbers of everywhere I have worked in the past two years and the addresses and telephone numbers of two personal referees who have each known me for five years. I asked what all this was for and I was told that previous employers and referees will be contacted and asked to rate me out of ten in terms of performance, like-ability, motivation, relationships with superiors and a host of other different categories.

I felt like I was doomed from the start; set up to fail, almost, and honestly believe that this is a ridiculous amount of time to spend on detail when I am likely only to work a job, if they find me one, for about two months, then leave and utterly forget about it.

It was rather overwhelming, and I was certainly not comfortable with giving that amount of information about me and my life to a girl in a temping agency so early on in the morning (for a student) who I had never met before nor could accurately vouch for her appeared authenticity.

Perhaps the most frustrating aspect of the whole experience was how very unimportant I was made to feel as a person by the agency. I’m not being a wimp, but I was addressed with lots of sentences like “keep your phone on, we’ll call early in the morning to offer work”, ”…if you won’t pick up on a regular basis, I’ll put you down on the system as not looking”, and, “there are a lot of people who need work so I don’t have to time to do…”. I felt like an absolute inconvenience and this concerned me.

However I did understand, I am only looking for temporary work and I understand that the influx of students in the summer makes this a stressful endeavour. I may not be a graduate, but I am proud of my achievement in that I attend and study at a good university. Yet it dawned on me today that this means very little to these people, or in fact anybody because, truth be told, I could have gotten away with not having a resumeat all;  just as long as I can type 80 words per minute and can successfully copy and paste in Word or Excel.

I realised today that all of the work I have done in reporting technology news in the hope to boost my career prospects and even the fact I am a professional photographer means absolutely nothing to the temping agency - even in this technologically booming day and age. And that fact, whilst I am aware is very true for the majority of graduates and students, is still extremely frustrating.

The iGeneration is a select group of talented and technologically enhanced individuals– young and impressive, and essentially go-getters. I have realised today, much to my disappointment that the opportunities for them to be able to create inside of the workplace are actually narrow for the majority. They are instead, forced to carry out their individual project work within the confines of university and are unable to easily enhance their everyday jobs with their skills and creativity.

The technology is aged

The Microsoft Word and Excel test was nothing more than a historical joke . All of it was computerised and ran off of a virtualisation process from what I could see; either that or some web based creation designed to imitate the interface.

My first issue was that the test was on a very old version of the software - Office XP, nearly a decade old, and not one I was entirely familiar with any longer, not only that but the system of testing was sluggish, unresponsive and crashed a great deal.

For half an hour, at one point I was staring at a fragmented screen, listening in to a conversation between the lady interviewing me and a budding Bristol graduate, toffing a great deal about his “inward facing” work with Toyota during his “Gap Yah” and looking very impressed with what he was saying; utterly convinced in his Cambridge-reject mind that he was paralysing the girl with impressive sounding business jargon – convinced that Alan Sugar would come waltzing in any minute saying “you’re hired!”.

He was then cut dead in a way which made him look like a forty year old depressive drunk by being told that his resume wasn’t comprehensive enough and that he needed to give more information about his telemarketing experience when he was at school.

I turned back to the screen and by then the system had defrosted itself and I was eagerly clicking away and then  moved swiftly on to the typing test which could not respond to my keystrokes fast enough – the result being me stamped as distinctly average.

Just another ’student statistic’

Then the bombshell. I had completed the tasks and was about to leave when she offered me a job saying she’s got some data input work. “Great”, I said, to which she replied, “yes well actually, you’ve scored quite average on the typing and I’ll have to offer it to someone a bit quicker than you first. Oh, besides you can’t do it anyway, its for next week and you told me you need to keep the first three days free, how silly! Just ignore me.”

I was utterly dumbstruck. She doesn’t give a toss about the personal achievements I’ve accomplished, barely mentioned my degree and completely ignored my specialist fields of work of which I have specific and detailed experience in. They are little more than hobbies in the agency’s opinion. She just wants to know that I can use ancient versions of Microsoft products and can type 80 odd words a minute – which I couldn’t because the computer kept bloody crashing.

The day was doomed from the start and a sad one, for the increasingly unrecognised skills of the iGenreation. Every cloud though: I left and bumped into one of my neighbours in town, an elderly lady who had a computer problem. I said I would fix and it earned me a quick, tax free £100.

As a student - either of this generation or that of the older generation - how does this tale cope with what was before? Have you had any useless temping agency jobs and has problems like Elliot? Get in touch and have your say.

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I worked briefly with Microsoft UK in 2006 but no longer have any connection with the company. Regardless, I remain impartial and unbiased in my views.

I don't hold any stock or shares, investments or industrial secrets in any company, but have signed confidentiality agreements with a number of UK and U.S. organisations, whose names I am not at liberty to disclose.

I was involved with Kent Union, the University of Kent's student union, undertaking voluntary, non-salaried, elected positions between early 2009 and mid-2010.

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After studying criminology at university, though still in his early-20's, he has already had a series unconventional work and voluntary positions. He has worked with researchers studying neurological illnesses like Tourette's syndrome (which he suffers from), has given lectures on the nature of disabilities in the public community, and occasionally ends up speaking on television and radio discussing the events of the day.

He first had academic work published at the age of 22, then still an undergraduate, and has been cited by a wide range of publications: from the Huffington Post, Business Insider, AllThingsDigital, The Atlantic Wire and CBS News.

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My experience in my line of work is that the more book knowledge a person has (on the same topic), the less real life smart that person becomes.

Now, the people who earn book knowledge on MANY topics (not just a single technology) are usually the best to work with. The multi tech-cultural knowledge is usually a door to a more logical and complete vision when dealing with technical issues.

Also, sometimes a simple janitor can have the best and most simple solution to a very complex problem. While a PHD would spend time trying to figure out the pressure, density and properties of the materials needed to unclog a toilet ... the janitor will just use a plunger and get the job done in 10 secs.
@wackoae probably written by someone with little formal education
@erglazier Seems to me like someone who has had the experience, whereas you, on the other hand, think your education is all you need.
I owned a computer company with three divisions; building custom systems, installing them and teaching people how to use systems.
Experience #1: Out of eight people who applied for two openings I had, only one could spell and/or use a spell checking program. The other seven all had multiple misspellings throughout their resumes.
Experience #2: NASA wanted to hire me to design specific software for them. It turned out they couldn't hire me because I didn't have a college degree. Their solution? They hired me to teach people to do the job they couldn't hire me to do.
The college educated people I was looking to hire weren't good enough because of their lack of simple abilities and, yet, this non-college educated person was good enough to TEACH the college educated people NASA hired to do the job I couldn't do. Any of this make sense to you?
Your education means nothing without the common sense to utilize it to it's potential. That potential does not include making asinine assumptions about another person's education, or lack thereof, based on a single opinion expressed.
@erglazier I would say you are another idiot that thinks a degree is worth more than knowledge.
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Welcome to the real world Zack
Richard Flude Updated - 25th Jun 2010
"The iGeneration is a select group of talented and technologically enhanced individuals young and impressive, and essentially go-getters. I have realised today, much to my disappointment that the opportunities for them to be able to create inside of the workplace are actually narrow for the majority."

Ah the realisation they aren't as impressive as they thought they were. I know, you've all be told how wonderful you all are by your parents and the race to the bottom education system, but now you're out in the real world.

In the real world not everyone is a champion, not all opinions are worth the same, ruthless competition is commonplace and the competitive market battlefield is littered with corpses.

The best don't often succeed, the playing field is skewed to the connected. Business processes often bewildering.

The refuges remain: academia and the public service. Both ballooning on the back of even greater theft from the private sectors. The question is can these sectors grow fast enough to accommodate an entire generation?

I'm interviewing another two next week. Almost brings me to tears; what have we done to such potential?
@Richard Flude Completely agree. iGeneration means absolutely nothing to employers, and why should it? I associate that word as the generation that spend most of their free time bumming around on facebook instead of doing something usual - and that's as good a definition as any.

As said above, welcome to the real world. Getting temp work is an impersonal and competitive process, especially in the realm of student summer jobs. A degree these days is the norm rather than the exception. What on earth made you think that being a student entitled you to be wrapped up in cotton wool and given special treatment? You don't pick up the phone regularly, they're not going to bother trying. It's that simple - look at it their end, if you've got a guy that picks up the phone every time and usually accepts the work as oppose to someone who's never up to answer and when he does answer just says he's busy - who are you going to choose to phone?

" I asked what all this was for and I was told that previous employers and referees will be contacted and asked to rate me out of ten in terms of performance, like-ability, motivation, relationships with superiors and a host of other different categories."
What the heck did you think they'd be contacted for? Asking them out for dinner?

"It was rather overwhelming, and I was certainly not comfortable with giving that amount of information about me and my life to a girl in a temping agency so early on in the morning (for a student) who I had never met before nor could accurately vouch for her appeared authenticity."
So early in the morning for a student eh? So, perhaps around 1 in the afternoon? No-one's forcing you to hand this data over, but if you want a job then legally they need to know this information. If you're worried about authenticity, then look up the agency first? Moaning that you have to give your details to an agency for them to find you a job is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

"I was utterly dumbstruck. She doesn?t give a toss about the personal achievements I?ve accomplished, barely mentioned my degree and completely ignored my specialist fields of work of which I have specific and detailed experience in."
That's because your specialist fields of work with detailed experience are utterly irrelevant because they're, guess what, specialist. Saying you've got a backing in journalism and photography is about as useful for a typing job as a 10m swimming certificate.

If you want to get to the position where you stand out and employers rush after you then it's a large quantity of RELEVANT good quality experience you need; through which you can clearly show you're the absolute best at what you do. You're not going to get that by moaning that you're special and no-one is treating you as such.
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As a baby-boomer, I was going to toss my cup of gasoline on the fire along with javamonkey about how in my objective, open-minded and non-judgmental opinion your generation spends its "time bumming around on facebook instead of doing something..." Then I realized that I am sitting here writing this on company time and on a company computer. Okay, Elliot, maybe you will amount to something, after all. Good luck.
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Get a job, any job, and start learning and proving yourself. You clearly think you are highly qualified, but your blogs reveal a lack of appreciation for the real world.

Employers just want someone who can get a job done, rather than someone who thinks getting a job done, even on XP and an older version of Excel, is beneath him.

I probably would not hire you.
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I don't want to be harsh but...
Yensi717 25th Jun 2010
What exactly did you expect? You were signing up for temp work: data entry, filing. This is stuff an 8th grader should be able to pull off. There isn't a company on the planet that's going to say, "Crap we need an article by this Friday, let's call a temp agency to find someone to write it!" Nor is national geographic going to think, "Wow - we need two more photos for this issue. Let's hire a temp!" Possibly, if you were applying to be an intern somewhere your merits and qualifications might mean something. For the white collar-ish "Would you like fries with that?" jobs that temp agencies represent, your achievements mean nothing. Of course, the hiring manager was short with you; I'm sure she deals with dozens of lazy workers every week.

As for the Sony agreement, it is just a formality to get the process out of the way so that if, by some chance, you were asked to come in the morning, they wouldn't have to go through the process of filling out the same paperwork putting them further behind. You would probably be shuffling around random paperwork, not helping them design the next walkman. In either case, at most companies there is confidential information floating around. All workers are required to sign confidentiality agreements. If it was your personal medical records someone was handling, wouldn't you like to know that the person had to agreed to NOT spread them all over the Internet before seeing them?

What you consider "invasive" in terms of ensuring that you are who you say you are is typical. Every job you ever apply for will have this. Who was your last employer? Where did you go to school? Let me talk to someone as a reference. What if you had stolen information from your last employer? They have every right to contact everyone you worked with to make sure you are who you say you are. Otherwise, everyone would just list "Harvard MBA worked at GE making ten million dollars for my company."

I'm sorry, but you sound rather typical of the "iGeneration": kids coddled into believing that they were these incredible human beings deserving to have everyone gasp in awe of their brilliance. The "iGeneration" is NOT this wave of millions of "young and impressive, and essentially go-getters." To me, it is a wave of millions of young people wanting to make six figures without doing more than the absolute minimum then throwing a temper tantrum when the real world laughs in their face. I?m saying this, to you and I?m still in my twenties.

If you don't believe me, only look at the sentence you yourself wrote. Think long and hard about it. "I was confident I would be on my way home fairly swiftly to watch the tennis; the work would come and find me." You said it. I didn't.
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If you want to get some extra money, find a local weekly newspaper. Almost every city has them catering to a young audience. Try submitting a few articles to them, or seeing if they would consider you to do occasional photo shoots of concerts. It will be more satisfying than generic "temp work" while allowing you to remain flexible with an added bonus of being useful on your resume in the future.

Just an idea...
Wow you guys are harsh! And if he said he was 40-something would you respond the same way? I have been out of work for 6 months and can relate to this article. Common courtesy isn't so common anymore.
@jbachandouris@... If Zach were 40-something, he wouldn't be writing a blog called "iGeneration" talking about how much more dynamic his breed is and wondering why his level of experience, partial education, and purely niche and irrelevant skillset aren't being fairly considered during his job search..
@jbachandouris@... I was harsh because the blog post was written from the perspective of a student thinking he was brilliant and moaning that the world didn't see him this way. If it was written from the perspective of a 40 year old, realising his limitations, stating his experience but giving solid examples of where common courtesy was lacking, that's all fine by me.

To me though (and looking at the responses, others too) this is a whiny student sulkily blogging because people don't find him special.
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@javamonkey: People are getting so much of a kick out of bashing this guy for being an "inexperienced student, foolishly thinking he has useful skills", they seem to be losing sight of the whole point of his story!

What I came away with (and can relate to completely, as I made the same mistake once) is that these "hiring agencies" are FAR less interested in matching up peoples' talents and skills with employers who could use them than you might be led to believe. In reality, all they want are as many "empty heads" as they can get who can type quickly and will work cheap.

The only mistake he made was in over-estimating their ability to find him some quick, but useful employment. These places don't care about your diploma or accomplishments because they want a bunch of worker-drones who just do what they're told. (EG. Stay by your phone and always answer immediately when we call, because WE don't want to be bothered to have to leave a message on your voicemail.)

Honestly, the job market right now is so tight, I think the best bet for intelligent, motivated people is to figure out how to get their OWN business going! (As he said at the end of his article, he immediately made some money doing an on-site PC repair for someone. That just "fell into his lap". That could be a sign, right? Why beg some temp. agency for poor pay doing boring data entry when you could put in some effort advertising your new on-site computer service business?)
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"The only mistake he made was in over-estimating their ability to find him some quick, but useful employment."
I can count many more mistakes than that. Thinking that clearly irrelevant experience was relevant for instance. Thinking that having to give details to a company looking to find you work was an invasion of privacy. Believing that if he didn't pick up the phone because it was too early they should still make a good attempt to contact him. And assuming that in the real world anything other than the latest product is long gone, out of date and not worth using.

I could go on.

"Why beg some temp. agency for poor pay doing boring data entry when you could put in some effort advertising your new on-site computer service business?"
The key there is in the word "temp". Are you suggesting he sets up his own business for a couple of months to get some money then dispands it again? And no, just setting up a website advertising computer repairs is not a business. There's many processes to go through (VAT registration and so on) and they cost money and take time!
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Tax Free?
Jeremy-UK 26th Jun 2010
Err, shouldn't you declare the $100 to the IRS?
@Jeremy-UK +1, this is, strictly speaking an infringement of the law here! While I'm sure many of us do similar things, admitting this on a public blog post perhaps isn't the wisest of ideas wink
@Jeremy-UK 100 pounds. That is UK. And I don't know the tax laws there (and I suspect you don't either). In the US you must declare such income, but I would guess many don't
@rjt@... It would depend on how much he made over the entire year. Most countries, including here in the US, have minimum amounts to be required to file a return. If you make less than that minimum, no return is required unless tax was withheld and you want it back.
If tax is not withheld, as in this case, it should be recorded and all such payments added up each quarter until you reach a point where reporting is required and then pay an estimated tax based on that total. If you never reach the minimum required AND no tax has been withheld, keep the record for three years in case the IRS decides to check up and then throw it away. No return will be required.
In the US, it is required by law to pay your taxes. It is NOT required by any law to file a return unless you want an overpayment refunded to you or you owe a balance due. If you overpayed by $20.00 and don't want to mess with it, no return is required.
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@rjt@... Yeah, technically you should but if there's no paper trail (cash in hand) well... it's incredibly difficult to prove the transaction was made in the first place.
this was written from the viewpoint of an employee. from the viewpoint of an employer, the most impoortant thing is how cheaply can he get you to do work. experience is generally not given much shrift because the more you have the more he will have to pay. employers seldom consider that the ability of an employee with experience will cost less overall because he will not make all the mistakes a new person will make, nor will he take much time to solve problems for he has already done so in the past. as much as there are smart employers extant, there are a whole host of dummies out there. it is best to avoid them, but if one cannot, the second best is to ignore them.
Paperwork = Government + Lawyers of the past to prevent problems for the employers. Somewhere someone in the past sued someone and thus the paperwork. Temp agencies often request the MOST detailed since they have no idea where you may go - so they ask for the "Top Secret" level type of info and then send you to water bushes.

Colleges / Universties often teach items so old that the theory can be used but not the actual itesm, or are so leading edge that no one is really using them in the business world. This is why in the US most go to community colleges since they can (and do) change their courses to what is actually wanted right now in the business world. I don;t know if the UK has colleges like this or not.

"Old Boys Network" - is how most people still get their jobs. Knowing someone who hears of something and you apply via that route works more than anything that official government or employment agencies can do. No matter what the "classless" society may preach, its your friends and co-workers who can help you more than anyone in the world.
One other item:

On taxes, the UK often tops out around 60% (VAT, income, fees, etc) while the Federal tops out at 38% (plus state taxes, local etc, so comes to around 55% in some states). The more socialist the state the higer the taxes are due to the required support structure the state provides to the mass of voters they cater to. UK has lots of hidden fees (taxes) that are often not talked about (do they still have that 160 pound per TV tax to support the BBC? with more for Color? Are they going to expand that to when people watch TV over the Internet?)
@TAPhilo TV licensing is still in effect yes, though it's ?150 now (?50 for black and white though I don't know of anyone who has a black and white TV these days!)

With all the other fees and taxes though it's comparatively quite little. I wouldn't be surprised if it was scrapped altogether and just incorporated into other tax soon - more and more people aren't paying it because they're just using iplayer and the like rather than OTA transmission.
Ah you see, you should have gone to CCCU instead of UKC! You might have had a bit more luck wink

But in all seriousness, my experience was exactly the same coming out of uni with a decent degree, having to look for temp work and being shown a test on a version of excel and word that I hadn't used in years. I managed to get a fairly decent mark, but a lot of the questions were through trial and error. You'll be lucky, in the long run, if you don't have to do at least 3 or 4 more of these. But at least they get easier with time!!
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@DanL66712 Ha... Christ Church... I love the banter happy
Your real problem is you are applying through a temp agency and they have certain kinds of jobs (depending on the agency). Most of their clients are still on XP. Most of their clients will begin using 2010 technology in 2020 at best. But that is the real world. If you want different work, apply for people who have those jobs to offer. Be aware that most of them will not want you for 2 months. The best of all worlds for you may be an intern job through your university.
IMO this is the norm for any commission-based employment agency, temp or otherwise. The agent gets paid for finding you work, period. If they have data entry work and you get the job, it doesn't matter to them if you're a data entry clerk or a physicist. And from the employer perspective, the agency doesn't care if the employee is qualified or not, as long as he/she can keep the job until the commission check arrives.

It seems like you'll have the best chance of finding work if you can win over the employee of the agency. Employers tend to place a lot of value on their recommendations, so if you can ingratiate yourself to the point where they're pushing you as their candidate of choice, you'll get plenty of work.
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I'm the taxman, yea-ah I'm the taxman.
mark16_15@... 28th Jun 2010
Thanks for the info on your tax-free 100GBP.
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I'm the taxman, yea-ah I'm the taxman.2
mark16_15@... Updated - 28th Jun 2010
It's not that you would always report the 100GBP from the little old lady, but bragging about it in a blog is down-right asking for it.
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Previous employers!
chaz15 28th Jun 2010
Ask them what you like, legally all they have to supply is dates worked for them and in what 'capacity'. The latter can be as vague as IT lecturer -does that mean Computing as well? Up to what level, NVQ level 1 or degree module level?

Most large organisations will supply just that:- dates worked for them and an often almost uselessly vague 'generic' job description - so you'd better really impress at that next interview!!!!

Ask for any further details and their HR will decline to reply, and refuse to answer any telephone calls asking for further details!

Very good reason to try to get a good written testimonial from a work colleague or line manager, though some people won't provide a testimonial unfortunately, or worse still if previous colleagues/ managers have 'moved on' and can't be contacted!
Despite your "experience in journalism"... the plural "freshers" should not have an apostrophe in it. wink
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If me, with 25 years of experience apply for a temp job, I bet I would get the same result as you.

You should have realized by now that as a professional that's not the way to find a job. (and even though you are a student you are still doing a professional job) .

You rely on networking (which being a journalist I'm sure you have a network).

You rely on ingenuity, which I'm sure landed you your blogging spot.

And you apply for things you are interested on. Leave temp jobs for people that due to circumstances have to rely on temp agencies.
I would forget this temp agency, and try another one. As you say, they are clueless, their typing test is a joke. It is amazing the incompetence companies get away with. You would be better talking to people who might actually care, knocking on doors, etc. Note- June is a little late to be looking for a summer job. Next year, start earlier. This summer, I suggest you travel and build up your writing and photograph portfolios.
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Really should pass on the truth about education and job searches. Most Human Resource personal don't give a rat's ass about what you know. They don't care if you tutored 6 subject ares at college level. They don't understand the subjects, they have a degree in cosmotology or other related subject areas. They see you as a threat that may take their position or their second cousin's. And they must protect the second cousin because that is how you got Their position. Human resource personal will down play you as a means to offer lesser wages. Send you to a lesser job, again in order to justify paying below wages. It's all about making the most profit possible while paying out the least possible.
First, I feel your pain with the job search thing. It really sucks.

I think experience is important, a degree is just a piece of paper. It says "hey I went to ..... and I studied and may possibly have cheated some and now I have this piece of paper that says I'm an expert." The same way many companies who are hiring CEOs because they have MBAs are finding that to be a wrong decision. The same reason why Google looks for experience and knowledge and not just a degree.

But please, I work through a temp agency. It is a pain in the ass and the work is hell. I have experience in computers (multiple OSes to boot), welding, machining, and auto work among other things, but it doesn't really matter to anyone so I get to slave away in a fiberglass plant all day. Go get in an attic in the blazing heat of summer with a bunch of fiberglass insulation and roll around in it for 8 hours and then come back and complain to me. Oh wait, make sure you do it 7 days a week and on any holidays. You will be glad that you don't HAVE to have that summer job.

BUT, as much as I hate my job the reason I work it and not try to get a job at Google (which I most likely could because of my Linux experience) or somewhere else is because it pays the bills and gives me the opportunity to do what I really want which is start my own business.
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