Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

Summary: A new screenshot has emerged of Windows 8 donning the Ribbon menu bar in a prime feature of the operating system. Is it here to stay?

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Microsoft is experimenting with a new user interface for its upcoming next-generation operating system, Windows 8, which would in part replace toolbars and the traditional 'File, Edit, View' bar with a Ribbon.

This may not seem as much of a surprise, as many applications in incumbent Windows 7, including Wordpad and Paint, along with trendsetting Office 2007 and 2010 applications, already include the Ribbon.

 

The Ribbon was designed at first not only to accommodate a vast number of menu options into a more fluid and dynamic menu bar, but also to take into account users of touch machines like tablet PCs.

The ability to turn off the Ribbon already exists in the build being worked on, but it is unclear whether this gives temporary reprieve to pre-release users, or whether it will make the final curtain call.

While it is entirely far-fetched to suggest for a second that Windows 8 will replace the keyboard altogether, the move to a Ribbon could signal the introduction of Windows 8 slate PCs that Microsoft keeps going on about.

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  • Again?

    How can you come up with windows 8, when you can't even get the prior windows versions to work right. How am i supposed to believe that a new OS will do better.
    windwalkerr
    • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

      @windwalkerr
      It seems you haven't used Windows 7 at all.
      Ram U
      • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

        @Rama.NET Sounds like he's used it to me.
        storm14k
    • Could you please elaborate?

      How does 7 "not work"?
      Michael Alan Goff
    • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

      @windwalkerr Works fine for me. Sped up some XP systems by switching to Windows 7.
      CobraA1
      • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

        @CobraA1 Agreed, have extended the usable lifetime of several machines.

        Further, fully installing and configuring a win7 machine can be done in less than half the time of its predecessors.
        gavin142
  • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

    This seems to be a step backwards where the goal lately has been to reclaim more screen space. The gap between me and Windows just continues to get wider.
    storm14k
    • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

      @storm14k It hides quite nicely actually... I love the ribbon.
      condelirios
      • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

        @condelirios
        Me too.
        asdacap
      • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

        @condelirios

        me three. In all the applications that use it I find I can perform the tasks I need to do much easier without hunting and pecking through file menus and sub menus.
        bobiroc
      • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

        @condelirios
        Well I don't. I think it stinks. Look at the thickness of those ribbons. That's a lot of screen real estate being taken up by M$ fanbui shill eye candy.

        It's utterly hypocritical for M$ to make the IE9 GUI as simple and as clean as possible, while at the same time cluttering up windoze explorer.
        LTV10
      • Explain to me how the ribbon hides quite nicely

        @condelirios I've got a tablet with 1024x600 resolution. How much of my document am I actually going to see? Remember, you must provide the rich user experience I hear talked about.

        I think the average user is going to see 4 lines of text and say, 'what's up with that?'
        Info-Dave
    • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

      @storm14k
      It's not too different to a menubar as it autohides . But it exposes a lot of functionality and it's more intuitive
      g@...
      • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

        @g@... I can never find anything on the Office Ribbon. I always have problems. The menu bar was far superior.
        hayneiii@...
      • RE: I can never find anything on the Office Ribbon

        @hayneiii@...

        Really? Yeah I guess I can see how having all the common functions for the task you are trying to do withing a program right in front of you compared to being buried in menus and sub-menus can be confusing.

        I mean who would want all those common tasks right at their finger tips (or mouse pointer tips) in a few separate categories based on the task you are trying to accomplish.
        bobiroc
      • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

        Having those old drop down menus were more convenient. They would only appear when you did an Alt+F, Alt+E plus underscore_letter. They were away out of the way unless you called them, while at the same time making the menubar smaller and cleaner looking.

        Keyboard shortcuts, rule.
        LTV10
  • One word: Effeminate

    As if Windows users aren't emasculated enough as it is. :( <br><br>Is there no end to this limp-wristed ribbon transformation?
    klumper
    • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

      @klumper As if DOS users aren't emasculated enough as it is.<br><br>Is there no end to this wimp-wristed GUI transformation?<br><br>The world progresses. Menus were a first attempt, for lower powered machines, to get away from the command line. Ribbons are the next step in the evolution of the GUI, at least in Redmond's eyes.<br><br>I hated Offcie 2007, when it was first released, having used Excel since 1988 and knowing all the shortcuts by heart, but I got used to it and with Office 2010, I wouldn't want to go back to Office 2003...<br><br>I think the ribbon is just a temporary stop-gap, until they get to the next big step in the development of the user interface.<br><br>I don't think touch will take off on the desktop, I get annoyed with people who stab at my monitor now, pointing to things, I keep reminding them, that it isn't touch, then I have to clean the monitor afterwards.<br><br>With a 'phone and to a lesser extent a small tablet, you can wipe the screen clean quickly on your trousers, shirt, pullover etc. You can't do that with a 24" - 30" display and you can't get all the information from a PC display on a tablet. <br><br>I can touch having a niche market in tablets, but the desktop is unwieldy and the finger marks are annoying after a while. I think we still need to evolve the "next step" in the GUI evolution, and it wouldn't surprise me if voice made a big entry into the future of the user interface.
      wright_is
      • RE: Windows 8 looking to replace toolbars with Ribbons

        @wright_is

        That is the problem with most people. They take one look at the different visuals and throw up their arms and call it crap.

        When I first starting using Office 2007 it took some getting used to and now I would never go back either. I am starting to see the ribbon like interface in other programs as well and find overall it makes using the software and performing tasks within much easier than hunting through menus and submenus. I know a good handful of keyboard shortcuts too and still use them but the Ribbon is a welcome addition in my book.
        bobiroc
    • You call that maddening ribbon &quot;progress&quot;?

      @wright_is
      [i]As if DOS users aren't emasculated enough as it is.[/i]

      It wasn't pretty as we left the caves, was it? ;) Touche.

      [i] I think we still need to evolve the "next step" in the GUI evolution, and it wouldn't surprise me if voice made a big entry into the future of the user interface. [/i]

      If the ribbon is "progress" and "evolution" raising its spurious head, whether as a stopgap measure or not, it amounts to a rather stilted and painful "next step" for microsoft + monkeykind.

      [i]I hated Offcie 2007, when it was first released [...] but I got used to it and with Office 2010.[/i]

      Sure and to some extent, the same applies here. But that doesn't mean I applaud these annoying [i]in your face[/i] UI changes. I still prefer the cleaner and more discreet menu driven approach, now years from the ribbon introduction.

      Touch? Fougettaboutit. Mostly for the reasons you stated. Voice? Getouttahere! 50 gibberish monkeys chattering away in every office confine, cursing with every miscue! Then heading home and babbling commands within ear-reach of friend and foe alike at their favorite porn sites [<i>"Oh yeah baby, oh yeah!!"</i>]. **splat!!**

      Not a friggen chance! :p [Fair retort though.]
      klumper