Harry Potter on the Torrents proves once more: Torrents are dens of thieves

Harry Potter on the Torrents proves once more: Torrents are dens of thieves

Summary: I've long raged against the Torrents. Bit Torrent, all of them.

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I've long raged against the Torrents. Bit Torrent, all of them.

Unexcelled distribution mechanism but at heart, dens of thieves that take away income from musicians. Some poor, some rich, but all who are entitled to profit from their creativity.

Speaking of rich, we won't be holding any benefits for Harry Potter author and creator J.K. Rowling soon.

Still, somehow and some way, the Torrents have been raging with purloined scans from the forthcoming (later this week) Harry Potter book, "Harry Potter and the Dealthly Hollows."

Some scans like the one at the top of this post, are posted here.

As a copyright holder myself, I am not happy about this.

Are you?

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  • Don't forget to add

    photocopiers, scanners, and printers. All used for nothing but copyright infringement. Without the scanners, for instance, this could never have happened.

    Pardon me -- I've got to go and restart my seeds of the Ubuntu and Kubuntu after last night's power outage.
    Yagotta B. Kidding
    • Very true-multiple culprits involved

      Simply commenting against "torrents" without considering the other contributors here, is an incomplete point of view at best.
      DonRupertBitByte
    • Talking points from CAIR

      Instead of attacking the author and making silly comparisons about scanners and photocopiers and sounding like a CAIR representative claiming Islam is a religion of piece as the cops pick up body fragments from another bombing, why don't you call for the cleaning up of the torrents from the thieves that run rampant through it and pollute what you think is a great technology.
      frgough
      • I will gladly make that call

        Right after the Music and Motion Picture industry clean up their acts for their lousy treatment of their artists. And their contamination of the industry to make a quick buck.

        I will gladly go bust the knee caps of theives on that side of the torrents if you bust the knee caps of those who claim to create the content which is spread illegally.
        nucrash
        • Two wrongs do not make a right!

          I steal because of the injustices heaped on the artists by the record companies is a justification and not a defense. You are not Robin Hood.
          ShadeTree
          • Never said I was

            I just said that I would be the first in line to bring order to the chaos on behalf of the consumer if some one would bring order to the wolves on the other side of the fence.

            I am not robbing from the rich and giving to the poor, I am robbing from the victims because I can't seem to be able to rob from those who have nothing of value to steal. Or atleast something that isn't locked down with some impressive measures of security and guard dogs.
            nucrash
      • Pillows don't kill people

        [i]Instead of attacking the author and making silly comparisons about scanners and photocopiers [...] why don't you call for the cleaning up of the torrents from the thieves that run rampant through it and pollute what you think is a great technology.[/i]

        Because BitTorrent has no more to do with this than scanners do. Those images (unless you missed the text) were scanned before being uploaded. The image shown as illustration is, in fact, an infringing copy [1] that you're seeing thanks to HTTP -- not BitTorrent. Both do the same job: transferring files.

        Before BitTorrent, large warez were distributed by mailing list, Usenet, FTP, etc. None of those exist solely to infringe, and no thinking individual proposed shutting down e-mail, usenet, ftp, etc. because they were used to infringe any more than they proposed banning scanners and photocopiers despite the fact that the majority of material scanned and copied is under copyright.

        [b]Anything[/b] that can be used to publish a work can be used to publish an infringing copy. It's the nature of publication: the technology has no way of making legal determinations.

        Meanwhile, I continue to seed torrents -- of works that are, in fact, licensed for redistribution and which depend on peer propagation.

        [1] Probably fair use, but that's still infringement
        Yagotta B. Kidding
  • Point of order

    The book is Deathly Hallows.
    frgough
  • How to hurt torrents big time.

    They also steal bandwidth Russell.

    ISPs should restrict all upload speeds to about 9600 baud rate on ports other than the popular ones used for normal online activity. You don't want to block it altogether but slow it to a crawl so progress is painful. Also they will be online and visible to the enforcers so they can be arrested. Also write viruses that will travel only on those ports. People will think is this file going to kill my machine or what? No need for DRM when the minefield is slow going and explosive.

    There are reasons to use QoS to bag this application. The folks with the money cannot get thru with their legit business that make the network possible. Bittorrent is also very inefficient to transfer files for it hogs resources by trying to attach as many nodes as possible which is too much overhead. But it is robust. When you are a client/server to every machine out there, it turns the internet into a packet blizzard.
    osreinstall
  • What's the point?

    Really, what was the point of the article? Was it to start another flame war? Or was it simply to let everyone know that the latest Harry Potter book is on the torrents?


    Take a radar gun down to your local highway.

    A quick analysis of the results will rapidly reveal that the highways are full of lawbreakers.

    As a driver myself, I am not happy about this.

    Are you?
    Letophoro
  • Many Torrents are legal

    I take offense to this idea that torrents themselves are the problem. There are many different ways to transfer large files, torrent being one of them.

    In fact, BitTorrent was invented to copy large legal files, such as Linux CD images, and was done in such a way that it is fairly easy to track who is or has downloaded a file, unlike other methods where anonymity is king.

    Many sites, such as Vuze.com, are designed with distribution of legal materials over Torrents. Other productions, such as the 93 minute movie Cactuses at cactusesmovie.com, are legal content intended to be distributed free over BitTorrent.

    No matter what the technology, from VCRs, Audio Tapes, Gnutella, or BitTorrent, people will use the technology for both good and illegitimate purposes. What Torrents, unlike the other technologies, though, is that it empowers independent media producers and gives them, on a limited budget, to distribute their media to a large audience.

    It is this power to the little guys that is the most threatening to the bigger media companies. Their content will alway be pirated, but having the small, independent companies be able to market and distribute on a level playing field, that is the threat to them.

    I encourage you do view some of the legal content. Go download Cactuses and watch it. Download the interview with the director where they talk about the power of the distribution system and what their vision is, then come back and see if you look at torrents the same way.
    The-Bytemaster
  • Harry Potter in Libraries proves once more: Libraries are dens of thieves

    I?ve long raged against the Libraries. Book lenders, all of them.

    Unexcelled distribution mechanism but at heart, dens of thieves that take away income from authors. Some poor, some rich, but all who are entitled to profit from their creativity.

    [...]

    Still, somehow and some way, the Libraries will be rife with copies of the forthcoming (later this week) Harry Potter book, ?The Deathly Hallows?.

    They'll just hand 'em out to anyone who asks.

    As a copyright holder myself, I am not happy about this. Let the Great Library at Alexandria be the example; I say we burn the rest of the libraries down to their foundations.

    What about you?


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    All too easy satire aside, it's almost unfair arguing with someone who can't even get their terminology right (or the name of the book, for that matter). I seriously doubt any torrenter is going to walk into a bookstore, stuff a copy of "The Deathly Hallows" into their jacket and walk out. *That* would be thievery; depriving the store (and thence publisher and author) of a scarce good. It's petty thievery, but still.

    Torrenters engage in copyright infringement. This may be illegal, but at worst it deprives stores and publishers and authors of a *potential sale*--definitely immaterial and, considering a large chunk and probably a majority of torrenters wouldn't have bought a copy of the book anyway, likely non-existent to boot.

    See the difference? The law certainly does.

    My local library has a waiting list dozens long for the next HP book. I might even have the temerity to state that I'm on the list and when my name comes up I'll gladly read the book and not pay a cent.

    Going to report me to the police?

    If I hypothetically stated that I don't have a library card and will instead download a scanned copy of the book, whereupon I'll gladly read the book and not pay a cent, would you report me then?

    What if I had a friend who pre-ordered the book and will lend it to me when she's done?

    The result of all of these is the same: I enjoy the book and Ms. Rowling's bank account grows no fatter as a result.

    Equivalent results and yet only one would get me arrested... does that seem right to you? Or would you make it such that all three would see me in jail?

    To be clear, I'll actually be taking option three--borrowing the book from the person who introduced me to HP years ago, by lending me the first couple of books (and after which heinous act she somehow remains free and unpunished). In a year or whenever the publisher deems it most financially advantageous, the current outrageously expensive hardcover will be supplemented with more modest paperbacks. Hopefully one edition will have the same art design as the previous six HP paperback novels that currently adorn my shelves--and not a one of them stolen. And then, *only then*, will I purchase a copy--but I will have read the book long before.

    For those "some poor" authors you mention, however--I'd suggest you not speak for them. If there's one thing an author can do, it's speak for themselves.

    Cory Doctorow, a science fiction writer and one who makes his living from his works, said it best, I think:

    "For almost every writer, the number of sales they lose because people never hear of their book is far larger than the sales they'd lose because people can get it for free online. The biggest threat we face isn't piracy, it's obscurity."

    Up until I was lent *free* copies of the Ms. Rowling's works, to me she dwelt in obscurity with approximately zero chance she'd earn any of my money. Miracle of miracles, however, that which I received free inspired me to acquire more of Ms. Rowling's work, at some financial benefit to her.

    Free copies, in a library or even online, would ultimately have been the same--good advertising. For a free, online library where you can legitimately download books, check out www.baen.com/library. Cory Doctorow isn't the only one to have figured this out.

    Cheers and regards.
    AnonymousBugMeNotUser
  • Damn those VCRs

    And those CD-Burners and DVD Burners, for they also are tools of the trade that have ruined the industry, yet they also allowed the industry to flourish and the little guy have a little more freedom with his or her music/videos/books/ just incase things should all go wrong.

    Bashing Torrents is like bashing the surgical knife. Because of how many people have been killed by the object, you want to get rid of it regardless of how many lives have been saved.

    I will either buy the book or borrow it from a friend. I could check it out from the Library. If I do either of the latter two, J K will not have personally gained a dime and I am in my legal rights. So explain to me why I should care if some one uses torrent to profit off of others.

    I guess a Library and Movie Rental store and other locations where you can view media are all licensed pirates.
    nucrash
  • Would it be evil of me to...

    download the book just to be able to read it a few days early?

    I've already preordered the book from Amazon, and I'm perfectly happy with the price I payed for it. But if I don't really care about the publisher's preferred release schedule, and I want to read it early, and I commit myself to not giving away any spoilers in a broad manner, then is it so wrong for me to download it?
    TrPrince
    • Yes

      Because you didn't play by the rules set by the industry in the proper order. Therefore you must suffer the consequense of being an evil immoral pirate. How dare you, you evil rule breaker you!!!
      nucrash
  • I'm sorry!!!

    Oh, God help me. *sob* I didn't know!!!
    TrPrince
    • Just pay $25,000

      And all will be forgiven.
      nucrash
  • I use the torrents and am not a thief!

    What annoys me the most is your blanket statments about people on whatever subjects you cover.

    As in this one you basically label anyone using torrents as thieves. Excuse me? I have downloaded nothing but opensource applications and some drivers offered via torrents from the distro's and MANUFACTURES! See it makes those who code for pure joy able to distribute their OS, apps, etc... with out having to have a ton of server space or bandwidth.
    devlin_X
  • What does this post have to do with Telephony?

    Please stick to the subject of your blog. Your frequent forays into nonsense like this
    significantly reduce your credibility.
    aep528
    • Ever hear of a Breath of Fresh Air

      Something that is obscure just to show the blogger's opinion on other topics such as piracy. Obviously because pirates use Torrent as a distribution method, we should burn it. Also because people use the internet to look up porn, we should ban it from all of the schools. Also because many extramarital affairs take place over the cell phone and email, we should get rid of them as well.

      Infact, why don't we just abandon technology all together and go back to living in caves. We were much happier then, just clubbing our "Claimed" wives and taking them back up and pillaging them as our own.
      nucrash