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This developer I've been corresponding with could be weeks away from a truly killer app for cellphones

By | January 15, 2008, 3:44pm PST

Several weeks ago, I blogged about what I consider to be a thus-far unbuilt killer app for mobile phones: shopping mall maps small, yet clear enough for cellphones.

My point was that everyone brings a cell to the mall, and in-mall “you are here” store maps are oft-consulted and confusing. So why not build such an app, have your cell carrier distribute it, and use it to help you find and lead you to individual stores and even special offers once you are at the mall.

Well, over the last 24 hours, I have been corresponding with a South Africa-based software developer who is working on just such a feature.

Because he feels he is about two weeks of rigorous testing short of completion, he asked me not to use his name. But I am free to excerpt his descriptions of what he has been working on from the two emails he has sent me:

In his first email to me, he writes:

I am quite passionate about the idea of shopping mall maps on mobile phones.

I dont need the coordinates of a store in the mall for my map as I assign my own screen coordinates. I have even built a Flash Tool which for the particular Mall in question gives me all the coordinates. Using this tool I can get the coordinates and other info on all 284 stores within 30 minutes. I then feed this data into my map (takes about 10 minutes) and the map is fully functional.

I have build it for a particular Mall but was carefull in the design so as to make it easy to convert to another Mall.

I have  a graphics specialist who handles all the graphics for me.

I have a fully working one for use on a normal computer screen. It too doesnt give direction to the store yet but in the next upgrade I do plan to develop code which will send a little PacMan around the screen showing you the way to go (or something of the sort).

My thoughts on receiving this first email is that I hope this guy is resourceful enough to find a VC, and then with VC funds, to hire a marketing team. This idea is a winner.

Then the guy emailed me earlier today w/ this follow-up:

Although I say I’ve the past 6 months working on it in actual fact it has taken me 4 years to get this far.

As I said I began by totally redesigning the usual Mall map which is found on every website of a shopping mall. I needed a way to display all the mall levels on a single graphic at the same time. The answer will surprise you.

The Mall I have built my map for is the largest in South Africa. After re-designing the map I built a paper version of the map. Next I had to figure out how to digitise it and make it interactive. This I suceeded in doing and now have a version which fits on a normal computer screen. Its only in the last 6 months that I have been miniturizing it for a Mobile phone.

I believe that I have mastered all the coding challenges and am right now busy constructing the final map. You will even be able to telephone the store from the map.

The map is completely self-contained on the mobile in that it does not reference any external source to function and its current size is only 120 kbytes (full color). It even has a digital mechanism to help you orientate yourself in the mall as obviously the graphic on screen is only true to the Mall layout if you hold the mobile in a certain orientation relative to the mall. So I had to come up with a simple mechanism to let you know how to angle the mobile no matter where you were in the mall. Mobile phones don’t have built in compass needles.

Again the solution is so simple it will surprise you.

I say keep my name out for now as I may still stumble across a problem or two and don’t want to brag too much till I have a working model. This should be in about 2 weeks or so but you can write something now if you wish. Let me know what info you need to write it. The current map runs ok on my Nokia N70.

Once complete I will need to investigate its compatibility with other phones but this should not be an issue since it is built in Flashlite. Then I need to give copies to friends to field test to see if theres anything I have overlooked.

I have approached the mall with my computer map and they were very interested but have not yet told them of the mobile map.

As I’ve said before, I think this guy could really be onto something.

Do you agree?

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Russell Shaw

Russell Shaw passed away in March 2008. He was an enterprise computing journalist, analyst and author based in Portland, Oregon. A specialist in open source architectures and strategies, Microsoft applications, wireless networking, and multimedia content creation, Russell covered these fields regularly for several IT, business and consumer publications, including Investor's Business Daily and the syndicated IT news site NewsFactor.com.

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To the Memory of Russel Shaw:
phinrich@... 27th May
It is now 11:30 pm and I should be in bed but just felt that I had to complete this story.

Once again I am the developer whom Mr Shaw was referring to. We shared a number of mails on the subject back in 2007/2008.

Russel - thanks for your very good advice and encouragement - I still have our e-mail correspondence.

At the time I did say that I was close to completion of the project. However the project proved more complex then I had first imagined.

I was VERY sad to hear of Russel's passing in March 2008 (if my memory serves me correctly). I never met the man but I certainly would have liked to have met him. He was a visionary WAY ahead of everyone else. At the time of his first post - as far as I could determine - NO ONE anywhere was working on the problem. In those days I was working on it and everyday I would Google the topic to see what was out there. I found NOTHING - except Russels Post which carried an image of the map of the Mall of America.

On hearing of his passing I made up my mind to finnish my map and to one day build such an app of the Mall of America just to show Russel that he was right and to show those who laughed at his vision that they were WRONG !

As history would have it only around the middle of 2010 did I start to see a sudden surge of apps boasting maps of shopping malls. At that time my best effort still did not carry turn-by-turn directions.

Finally by May 2011 - in my opinion - there now exists;

For the Apple i-Phone - an app boasting turn-by-turn directions - for the Mall of America being available at the "Fastmall.com" website.

PLUS -

I am in South Africa and the i-Phone is not so popular here. Nokia devices are very popular. So - to fulfill my promise to Mr Shaw - I have finally completed my app of the Mall of America - built for Nokia Smartphones - particularly for the Nokia Astound.

My app gives turn-by-turn directions along the shortest route through the Mall and will direct you to the nearest elevator if you need one.

I think Russel would have liked it !

For those who are interested - the app can be found at;

http://store.ovi.mobi/content/113464

Afraid its only available in the USA. Its a free download.

Yes there are those who will still laugh and say "who needs it" but I am afraid if the mountain is there someone will always want to climb it and visionaries will always see it before anyone climbs it !

Let the people who frequent the malls decide if its a good idea and who needs it and who doesnt - thats what the free economy is all about ! Thats what democracy is all about - respecting everyones choices in life !

Russel - I never met you - but the world is a colder place without you ! Those who were lucky enough to have known you can be proud that they did.

Finally - to complete this story - Back then I asked you to keep my name private and you respected that request - THANK YOU!

I can now finally reveal my name -

I am Paul Hinrichsen living in Centurion in South Africa.

If anyone wants a closer fix on me they can mail me at phinrich@nnr.co.za

Enough said - and GOOD NIGHT !
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This is a joke, right?
aep528 15th Jan 2008
I mean really, have people become that stupid?

After shopping at the same mall for years, suddenly they need a map on their cell
phone?

I almost always see people using the maps in the mall, and most of the time they
spend, oh I don't know, ten seconds looking at it before they find the store they
want, and then turn and head right for it.

Of course, I doubt the developer of this app has yet recognized the real problem
with getting people to us it- getting the idiots to shut up long enough to actually
open the map.
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No WAY!
ron.cleaver@... 15th Jan 2008
I don't need a map when I have a wife. She has a black belt in shopping!
Hi

I'm the developer who is working on the mall map.

I am developing the map purely out of an interest to see if it can be done. It has cost me nothing so far to develop as even my graphics expert is a friend and we are a team on this one. My idea is that people who are keen could download it from the mall website. I cant make them use it - thats their choice.

It is my experience that - Yes - most mall users know a few stores which they visit regularly and know exactly where these are. However its only because they dont have a clue whats in the mall and where the other stores are. I bet if you took a mall with 100 stores and asked 100 people to name 10 stores in the mall (from memory) maybe one could do this. They will all know the big stores that everyone knows but the smaller ones - not a clue.

So I dont claim to have found the elixir of life and maybe not everyones keen on the concept but it excites me and I believe it can be done.

Please feel free to comment.
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cool
cofoley@... 18th Jan 2008
i like the idea. the advertising idea has potential, too
There is a great app called YOU ARE HERE-MALL MAPS
coming to the Apple store in 2 weeks! Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89rFpW90Jzc

http://medlmobile.com/Applications/MallMaps/mallmaps.sht
ml
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To the Memory of Russel Shaw:
phinrich@... 27th May
It is now 11:30 pm and I should be in bed but just felt that I had to complete this story.

Once again I am the developer whom Mr Shaw was referring to. We shared a number of mails on the subject back in 2007/2008.

Russel - thanks for your very good advice and encouragement - I still have our e-mail correspondence.

At the time I did say that I was close to completion of the project. However the project proved more complex then I had first imagined.

I was VERY sad to hear of Russel's passing in March 2008 (if my memory serves me correctly). I never met the man but I certainly would have liked to have met him. He was a visionary WAY ahead of everyone else. At the time of his first post - as far as I could determine - NO ONE anywhere was working on the problem. In those days I was working on it and everyday I would Google the topic to see what was out there. I found NOTHING - except Russels Post which carried an image of the map of the Mall of America.

On hearing of his passing I made up my mind to finnish my map and to one day build such an app of the Mall of America just to show Russel that he was right and to show those who laughed at his vision that they were WRONG !

As history would have it only around the middle of 2010 did I start to see a sudden surge of apps boasting maps of shopping malls. At that time my best effort still did not carry turn-by-turn directions.

Finally by May 2011 - in my opinion - there now exists;

For the Apple i-Phone - an app boasting turn-by-turn directions - for the Mall of America being available at the "Fastmall.com" website.

PLUS -

I am in South Africa and the i-Phone is not so popular here. Nokia devices are very popular. So - to fulfill my promise to Mr Shaw - I have finally completed my app of the Mall of America - built for Nokia Smartphones - particularly for the Nokia Astound.

My app gives turn-by-turn directions along the shortest route through the Mall and will direct you to the nearest elevator if you need one.

I think Russel would have liked it !

For those who are interested - the app can be found at;

http://store.ovi.mobi/content/113464

Afraid its only available in the USA. Its a free download.

Yes there are those who will still laugh and say "who needs it" but I am afraid if the mountain is there someone will always want to climb it and visionaries will always see it before anyone climbs it !

Let the people who frequent the malls decide if its a good idea and who needs it and who doesnt - thats what the free economy is all about ! Thats what democracy is all about - respecting everyones choices in life !

Russel - I never met you - but the world is a colder place without you ! Those who were lucky enough to have known you can be proud that they did.

Finally - to complete this story - Back then I asked you to keep my name private and you respected that request - THANK YOU!

I can now finally reveal my name -

I am Paul Hinrichsen living in Centurion in South Africa.

If anyone wants a closer fix on me they can mail me at phinrich@nnr.co.za

Enough said - and GOOD NIGHT !

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