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‘We had no evidence for anti-piracy law’, UK government admits

By | November 21, 2011, 5:12am PST

Summary: The UK government had ‘no evidence’ to support the Digital Economy Act, the UK’s anti-piracy and censorship law, it has emerged in a parliamentary select committee.

A key civil servant who worked on the UK’s anti-piracy law, the Digital Economy Act, revealed during a select committee hearing in Parliament that the UK government did not collect or verify any evidence to support the copyright enforcement policies.

At the UK Parliament’s select committee for Business, Innovation and Skills, it was also shown that the piracy statistics were not compiled, as rights holders were not willing to do so.

The committee was hearing evidence regarding the Hargreaves Report, a government review on intellectual property and copyright. While the proceedings were not intended to discuss the Digital Economy Act, Labour MP Anne McKechin questioned the evidence at hand.

“If I could turn to the quality of evidence. The Open Rights Group asked DCMS for evidence about illegal web content, and were told it wasn’t available. They had a similar experience with the Digital Economy Act methodology. How would you comment on their assertions? Is this consistent with basing policy on evidence?” McKechin asked Adrian Brazier, head of the Digital Economy Act implementation team.

Braizer’s response shed light on the lack of evidence used to put forward the bill.

“It is reasonable to acknowledge that the Open Rights Group has something of a point about the evidence used around the Digital Economy Act. It was somewhat opaque. The impact assessment was not based on new evidence or new research. We had no independent source of information. It is probably also fair to say that the evidence we had — had been offered by the rights-holders — they were unwilling to lift the bonnet and let us see the engines, if you like the workings and methodology”.

To clarify, McKechin said that the Open Rights Group, an Internet civil liberties organisation and critic of the Act, had not seen any methodology for the evidence to support the government’s claims. She went on to ask if the Digital Economy Act team had also not been given access to the relevant data.

Braizer responded:

“That is correct. We were trying to make the best brick we could with what straw we could find. In those circumstances, I would say, however, that we were always very clear as to the provenance of the figures we were quoting. We never claimed they were government figures. We were clear that these were figures that were provided by the rights-holders. We were as transparent as we could be in those circumstances, but we could not be transparent about the workings themselves.”

In closing remarks to the questions posed to him, he stated: “This is not a comfortable position for us necessarily to be in”.

The Digital Economy Act has been awash with controversy since it was first announced. When the draft bill was voted upon by members of the lower House of Commons, less than 30 members of the House voted, with the majority of those voting in favour during the ‘guillotine’ of the previous administration.

It was also found that lobbyists had held ‘closed-door’ meetings with government ministers in a bid to discuss how copyright infringers could be held accountable for their actions, with a plan to establish a committee of experts to determine whether websites and domains should be shut down or not.

Internet analyst Dr. Monica Horten argues that while the Act has now passed into law, there is only so much that can be enforced at this stage for ISPs and alleged copyright infringers.

“The Act’s code of practice is needed in order to trigger the initial obligations which is the notifications sent by the ISP, to inform subscribers that they have infringed copyright and must stop”, Horten said. “The code of practice sets the process between the copyright rights holders and the ISPs”.

“Because the code of practice has yet to be made public, the industry is unsure of what can and cannot be enforced. The bill could be annulled by the UK Parliament. But until that code is made public, ISPs are not obliged to send copyright infringing notifications to its customers”.

The law still has yet to be heard at the European Parliament and be presented to the UK House of Commons, which is expected in next year.

Proceedings can be watched from approximately 13 minutes from the start on the UK Parliament Live site.

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RE: 'We had no evidence for anti-piracy law', UK government admits
SiO2 23rd Nov
@Ididar Government doesnt understand the difference between control and management of something. It seeks to control the digital economy as it does the 'real' one, but where does one start gathering evidence to support the making of laws that govern it? Look at the mess DRM caused, simply because it too was a 'best fit' scenario based on misleading information from the distributors of said managed material.

Forgery of notes and coins is still commonplace, how the hell do they expect to legislate digital forgery using the same tools and outdated practices?

We'd need a digital government for that, and ours is way too entrenched to accept the changes they need to make to do it.
So what? Ever hear of prevention, an ounce of? Barn doors and horses?
@Vesicant: "Prevention" should only be used as an argument when something is prevented.
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Mandleson met Seif al-Islam Gaddafi in Corfu
guihombre Updated - 21st Nov
It was pushed through by 'Lord' Mandleson, who was made a Lord as part of the deal to try to save Gordon Browns failing government. So he still has influence in the UK.

Mandleson is often criticised for his 'Corfu' trips, where he visits various billionaires on their Yachts and comes back, convinced of some policy that just happens to also be the wish of those billionaires. He denies the two are connected. It was David Geffen's yacht this particular denial and he also met Seif al-Islam Gaddafi on that trip too, apparently the release of Megrahi was discussed but Mandy denies any influence.

So now that Seif Gaddafi has been caught, perhaps we can start to find out more about 'Lord' Mandleson's Corfu trips.

[Source www.guardian dot co dot uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/18/peter-mandelson-political-briefing ]
Usually to write law to take action you need actual evidence something is happening or that taking the action proscribed will actually stop the illegal activity. The various media empires have been taking a fairly broad shotgun approach for a long time now on the premise that if they sue enough people or shut down enough websites people will fear them and stop infringing. The reality is that services like iTunes (as much as I loathe the interface) have had the most impact on the amount of piracy ongoing. It sure as heck hasn't been the lawsuits.

If they wanted legislation written presumably they should have ponied up the data to show that what they wanted done would have a positive impact. Looks like they showed the end result but refused to explain how they came about those numbers. Considering these were closed-door sessions I can only imagine that refusing to explain HOW means that the supporting documentation for the report is either on sketchy ground or a complete fabrication. If you're in a closed-door session and the data is solid you normally don't refuse to explain how the data was gathered and collated.
@Ididar Government doesnt understand the difference between control and management of something. It seeks to control the digital economy as it does the 'real' one, but where does one start gathering evidence to support the making of laws that govern it? Look at the mess DRM caused, simply because it too was a 'best fit' scenario based on misleading information from the distributors of said managed material.

Forgery of notes and coins is still commonplace, how the hell do they expect to legislate digital forgery using the same tools and outdated practices?

We'd need a digital government for that, and ours is way too entrenched to accept the changes they need to make to do it.
Remember when they sacked Dr David Nutt because his advice on drugs policy was, while scientifically impeccable, somewhat politically inconvenient?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/11/three_more_quit_over_nutt_sacking_row/
@ldo17 As a criminology student (at the time), we had some very heated debates in seminars and lectures about that. Suffice to say, most of us agreed with you.
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Maybe a little too much party discipline?
John L. Ries Updated - 21st Nov
Were government MPs just following orders instead of asking the appropriate questions?

Edit: Come to think of it... What were the opposition MPs and the House of Lords doing? Not doing their jobs, apparently.
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I see the UK has the same problem the US does ,both have the best governments that the MAFARIAA can buy good luck with that!!

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