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Common set of Xbox Live services may work across Microsoft phones, PCs and gaming consoles

By | June 10, 2011, 12:19pm PDT

Summary: Microsoft is looking to make the user interface on its Windows Phones, Windows 8 PCs/tablets and Xbox console more similar in appearance. But it seems Microsoft’s plan goes beyond the user interface, and involves the company’s growing family of Xbox Live entertainment properties, as well.

Microsoft is looking to make the user interface on its Windows Phones, Windows 8 PCs/tablets and Xbox console more similar in appearance — as Windows Supersite’s Paul Thurrott noted earlier this week. But it seems Microsoft’s plan goes beyond the user interface, and involves the company’s growing family of Xbox Live entertainment properties, as well.

Speaking to The Seattle Times’ Brier Dudley this week at the E3 conference, Microsoft Vice President of Global Marketing for the Interactive Entertainment Business group, Mike Delman, explained Microsoft’s evolving strategy this way:

Seattle Times’ Dudley: Speaking of phone, I was surprised we didn’t hear about connections between Xbox and Windows Phone here at E3.

Microsoft’s Delman: Live has been successful on the Windows Phone. Live will be built into the PC. It will be the service where you get your entertainment. We were talking about it — you will not just see consoles and handhelds at this show next year, this show’s going to morph into other devices.

Microsoft is known to be working on some new entertainment media services that are codenamed “Ventura,” and which may end up superseding the Zune music/video service that Microsoft currently offers. The coming Ventura services are focused on music and video discovery and consumption, according to Microsoft job postings. They sound, from my sources, as though they also include recommendations, ratings and comments.

Microsoft also is planning to deliver this fall via cable and satellite providers the Xbox Live TV service, codenamed “Orapa.” Orapa is Microsoft’s Mediaroom IPTV infrastructure and capabilities delivered via Xbox Live.

I’m thinking Delman’s description of these coming Xbox Live services as being “built into the PC” may mean that the Softies will be taking a page out of the Windows Phone playbook and providing access to them via a hub/tile on Windows 8. On Windows Phones with their Metro/tiled interface, there’s an Xbox Live tile which provides easy access to downloaded games and gaming avatars. With the Mango Windows Phone update coming later this year, users will get more Xbox Live gaming-related capabilities.

I’m wondering whether Microsoft is planning to offer not just games, but apps, too, that will be purchasable once but run on phones, PCs and Xbox. A common XAML-based platform like “Jupiter” may enable them to do just that with newly created applications.

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for more than 25 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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RE: Common set of Xbox Live services may work across Microsoft phones, PCs and gaming consoles
adokadrik 11th Nov
@Will Pharaoh dude i completely agree with you... Mary i appreciated you you raise such a nice topic... I don't have much knowledge about linux or android... When i read this article it helped me alot.... Writing Services UK || Essay Writing UK || Dissertation Proposal Writing
if you notice there is an apps slot on xbox with the upcoming update...no way they are going to do that unless they intend to have a way to publish 3rd party apps for xbox
@mcrommert Don't they already do that? There are all sorts of indie games on the Xbox marketplace.
@Aerowind Those have to be games and they are programmed in xna which is directx. These would be programmed in Silverlight and they would be applications like a weather app or a Crunchyroll App (that is what I would like)...even an email app.
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Linux Geek 10th Jun
as long as the ecosystem does not include Linux and Android.
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@Linux Geek
they don't use Linux or Android.

Don't get me wrong, Linux or Android are great for running toaster ovens and such, just not able to do anything high end like game consoles. happy
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linux for me 13th Jun
@Will Pharaoh

Why is it that almost all of the 500 biggest and fastest supercomputers run linux? Time to grow up my friend and come back down to Earth.
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Don't you people ever learn?
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Linux Geek is just baiting you people, and having fun at your expense..
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@Linux Geek Another round of applause for our resident jester !!!
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The xbox dashboard is getting an update to Metro UI, and there is also the new "apps" category. The dashboad can be fully controlled by "touch" with the Kinect sensor. My guess is that new Windows 8 apps will run perfectly on the updated xbox, and this is Microsoft ace, millions of computers ready to run Windows 8 apps from day one.

Info about the dashboard update: http://www.winrumors.com/new-xbox-dashboard-includes-a-marketplace-with-apps/
MS do seem to have built up the beginnings of a pretty good consumer eco-system without anyone really noticing, it will be interesting to see if they are able to pull all the disparate elements together and execute on it.
@OffsideInVancouver

I have since 2007, Zune specifically. It's been quite the amazing transformation. When I got my Zune there was only a music marketplace. Then music videos started popping up, and eventually a browsable catalog for them. A bit after that a some TV shows popped up with a hand full of content providers, and over the months more and more became available and then a crap ton of movies came in. Now they have season passes and special albums with bonus tracks and music video bundles. All it needs is the complete my purchase for singles and partial buys, and album booklets, and they'll be pretty much matching Apple in extra goodies. Not to mention the Zune Pass option. For now Apple is king of content though, a holy cow do they have content.
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symbolset 10th Jun
"Breaks app compat."
@symbolset I don't see how adding capabilities = "Breaks app compat" . . .
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Yay! More Fugliness from MS.
itguy08 11th Jun
Consumers are shunning the fugly Win Phone 7 UI so MS puts it on their OS? Really? Better to design a good UI rather than the Fugly mess that is WP7's tiles and application UI's.
@itguy08 You must be drowning in a sea of icons.
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Not likely to happen......
linux for me 11th Jun
How long has the Microsoft Office suite been around and they still haven't made made those apps look similar! Many of the common features of those apps are still found in different areas on each one.

It's a good idea if it can be done, but history shows that Microsoft will not be capable of doing that. We can only wait and see how things "develop." Let's hope that the ribbon never shows up on these.
@linux for me
Microsoft already has this up and running in some form now on WP7, Xbox and Games for Windows Live. My guess would be that so far its been used as a beta-like test for what their about to do.
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If they're going to offer a new music service, they had better roll it out globally. They need Windows Phone to succeed in Europe, and if they introduce some new US-only (or North-America-only) music service, it may be enough to put some of us (myself included) off buying Nokia Windows Phones (which I'm currently waiting for).
@WilErz
The challenge is not technical but the current music/content rights system. Every country has different org's with the rights and they all want their own "special" deal. It is easy to say MS better roll out a global music service all at once but no other company in history has been able to do this. Not Apple, not Amazon, not Google, not Netflix...
It is a long painful process. Apple had it easiest since they were the first and achieved market dominance in the MP3 download world so they could set their own terms. No one else has that luxury.
Even Apple has just local iTunes services, there is no international store. For example, Switzerland just got movies added to iTunes there at the end of 2010. Those are only in local languages, German, French or Italian and they do not have access to many English soundtrack films. Even Apple took from 2003 to 2011 to get access to the Beatles music, do you blame Apple for "screwing up" on that?

I agree that it is very important for MS to create a consistent WW product but the content rights system was created decades ago when every market was isolated. It will be great if this ever gets modernized, but I am not counting on it happening before I retire.
Love the way MS is integrating their services lately.
... So when will this be coming to Windows XP? wink

All kidding aside, this sounds pretty nice, even though I don't own an XBox, I'm hoping this would give dedicated PC gamers (such as me) a way to play with XBox users.
When you take a step back and think about it a minute, it is amazing that Xbox (with Zune), and WP7 are taking over the PC experience. I like the direction!
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