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How Microsoft SkyDrive will morph from a Web site to cloud service with Windows 8

By | February 20, 2012, 9:18am PST

Summary: Microsoft is working to turn SkyDrive into a true cloud storage service with a new Windows 8 SkyDrive app and integration.

On the heels of some big leaks over the past weekend about alleged features coming to the next version of Microsoft’s cloud storage service, the Windows Live team has gone public with early information as to what’s happening.

As some Microsoft watchers expected after seeing some alleged new Skydrive screen shots posted on February 18 by Gemind.com.br, Microsoft is moving toward combining its Skydrive and Live Mesh services with the next release of Skydrive. (Live Mesh is Microsoft’s Dropbox-like sync service that the company first announced in 2008.)

Up until now, SkyDrive has been little more than a Web site where users can save, share and access files and data. The SkyDrive team plans to turn it into more of a real service that will supplement Windows 8, according to a February 20 post on the Building Windows 8 blog.

As weekend leaks indicated, Microsoft is building a SkyDrive Metro-style app for Windows 8. SkyDrive files also will be integrated with the Windows Explorer on the desktop (as LiveSide noted in a post over the weekend), and the ability to fetch remote files via SkyDrive.com is coming, as well, according to today’s Building Windows 8 post from Mike Torres and Omar Shahine, Group Program Managers for SkyDrive.

Microsoft plans to make the SkyDrive app for Windows 8 available simultaneously with the Windows 8 Consumer Preview, which is due out by February 29. The ability to do desktop sync and fetching remote files will come “soon afterwards” for Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8, company officials said.

There’s no mention in today’s post about the alleged Mac client for the new SkyDrive service, which the Brazillian site Gemind.com.br featured over the weekend. There’s also no mention of the long-expected paid supplemental SkyDrive options beyond the current free 25 GB plan, or of the OpenDoc file suport; new URL shortening service, or BitLocker-encrypted recovery key storage that also are alleged to be part of the coming SkyDrive release.

Update: Thanks to eagle-eyed reader @TheRackow, there is a mention of coming higher-storage plans, though no details in today’s post. The post says:

“SkyDrive for the desktop will also provide the ability to sync up to your available quota of storage (and the ability to unlock more), along with unmatched performance on your PC. Oh, and we will also have support for uploading large files (up to 2GB) through Explorer, another big request from SkyDrive.com users over the years.”

The Gemind.com.br site mentioned alleged new +20, +50 and +100 GB add-on plans in its post this past weekend. Microsoft officials declined to comment on that report.

There also is nothing in today’s Building Windows 8 blog post about how Microsoft will beef up Windows Phone synchronization — beyond the current Camera Roll support — with the coming SkyDrive update. Microsoft originally planned to sync not just PCs, but also phones, with Live Mesh, but ending up curtailing that planned support with the initial consumer release of the service.

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RE: How Microsoft SkyDrive will morph from a Web site to cloud service with Windows 8
oteast 21st Feb
@bobiroc Or you can upgrade to Oneric Ocelot and keep your 6 y.o. hardware going for a few more years with a snappy supported OS complete with Cloud and Social Media integration.....
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Emi Cyberschreiber 20th Feb
This sound amazing. thats what i wanted and im glad win8 finally is going to get it. also of course the app for explorer is really nice, since it would let me browse my local files through skydrive website.
@Emi Cyberschreiber
that's vaporware! M$ does not have the scale to allow Sky drive for more than a few hundred users. You should use Google+ instead.
@The Linux Geek: Hey, you replaced the "S" in Microsoft with a $ sign. Clever!
@The Linux Geek
Is news a bit short on the Linux pages? No new announcements there? You must be bored.
@The Linux Geek But Google+ sucks. I'll stick with MS' SkyDrive.
@The Linux Geek Trolling: Your doing it wrong.
@The Linux Geek I read on Techcrunch today that Sky Drive already has 17M users.

That's more users than desktop Linux.
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so?
Emi Cyberschreiber 20th Feb
@The Linux Geek

do you think I care what you think?

and why should I use google+? does it have something compared with SkyDrive, if it does, i dont need it anyway. and since all i know google+ its a social network, the only i use its facebook and because, its easy to contact a friend there. but its not like i care about it or need something like google+ none i know use. and of course also i don't want a company like google in my life. if you like it, ok, its your problem.
but i use what i want and im good with hotmail, skydrive, windows phone, and specially with Windows, i work on it and i game on it. and skydrive is a plus where i can share files with my friends without opening other silly accounts like google or dropbox, etc.

i know you are only trolling but if you say "you should use Google+" i can say "you should get a life"
@The Linux Geek

Take pity on him. His favorite hobbyist OS is still below 1% usage and he prefers an advertising company to a software development one. With every new feature and advantage MS brings out, his cognitive dissonance gets worse.

Don't worry LG, Linux will always be there, just like the abacus. Perhaps you could contact the unlamented Paul Murphy and suggest takling over his Linux museum.
@The Linux Geek MS has huge data centers all over the world. What kind f comment is that. You are completely wrong and you lied.

The Linux Geek learned how to install Ubuntu on an old computer now he know everything!
@The Linux Geek: Google's Dropbox-like sync service, Syncdocs, integrates well with Windows, but it will be hard to beat OS integration, despite Google+
This is all great news. SkyDrive's always been excellent but such a massive wasted opportunity. The fact Live Mesh uses a subset of SkyDrive has infuriated users for years. It looks like this will finally be fixed.

It's great to see a Windows 8 Metro app BUT also Vista/Win7 support too. Explorer integration in Windows 7/Windows 8 will be so useful. I currently use the decent SDExplorer to copy/move files/folders in Explorer but something official would be nice.

It's also great to see a feature of Windows Live Sync 2009 (replaced by Live Mesh 2011) whereby you could access your hard disk remotely is returning. I don't always want to "sync" everything. Incidentally a Microsoft support rep told me it was removed because it wasn't secure enough. I guess they've fixed that.

All this really gives OS X Mountain Lion's iCloud integration a run for it's money, especially when that offers no general cloud storage at all (compared with 25Gb for SkyDrive).

What about Android though? There are unofficial third party apps but come on, release an app to accompany your iPhone/Windows Phone apps.
@bradavon
It is super easy to map SkyDrive as a regular drive letter and use it like just any other drive in Windows 7.
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Can someone explain to me why ...
P. Douglas 20th Feb
... Live Mesh eschews Windows XP, MS' own OS, having about the second largest market share of any OS, yet MS struggles to ensure its various services wind up on iOS, Android, the Mac, etc.? Does MS seriously think that people with multiple Windows machines are going to upgrade all their machines, just to use Live Mesh? MS has ceded the synch market to Dropbox and other competitors, because of this incomprehensible position. This just plain makes no sense to me.
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@P. Douglas

New features aren't coming for it, so stop waiting for them to.
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So, success in the sync market ...
P. Douglas Updated - 20th Feb
@Joe_Raby,

... is not important to MS? MS' current position ensures that it will fail over the next couple of years. If ever there is a service MS should ensure is on every platform, it is Live Synch - because increasing its reach, increases its growth.
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Sorry, but no
Joe_Raby 20th Feb
@P. Douglas

....and neither is supporting tech luddites.

Whats honestly gave you the idea that Microsoft is somehow giving up on cloud storage anyway? That a technology company won't support a 12-year old operating system with new features? Do you ever read what you write sometimes?
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I'm not saying that MS should ...
P. Douglas Updated - 20th Feb
@Joe_Raby,

... offer support for Windows XP in all areas. After all, MS still supports Windows XP with security updates. Also, MS' failure to support IE on Win XP, has contributed to IE's decline in market share.

Now, if you are going to seriously offer a sync service, the more operating systems your service is able to reach, the more appeal it will have to users. It is absolutely silly for any company to ignore the second largest OS segment out there, when doing so is a deal breaker for the majority of users.
@P. Douglas

Actively supporting an 11 year old OS is far more foolhardy. Microsoft is working on it's THIRD post XP release! Get off your high horse and get with the times!
@P. Douglas: Windows Live Essentials 2011 (which includes their current sync option: Live Mesh), Internet Explorer 9 it's the way Microsoft work. Office 2010 supports Windows XP but I bet Office 15 won't.

They have to cut the cord at some time and Windows XP is completely out of support in just over 2 years. BTW XP barely gets any security updates or hotfixes any more.

You probably don't know that Apple are worse in this regard. A version of Mac OS X as old as XP certainly can't run modern Mac OS X software, not even a chance.

Besides the Skydrive website will continue to work in XP and if you want Explorer support check out the third party SDExplorer. It works well (XP and above).
@bradavon,

... has not negated my point. If MS wants to have real success with Live Mesh, it has to support as many OSs as possible, and it most certainly has to support OSs with the largest market shares. Even if Windows XP was 100 years old, the fact that it has about the second largest market share means that it is crucial that MS supports it. Also not supporting Windows XP, makes it unacceptable to the majority of businesses, which still have considerable amounts of Win XP machines they are using.
@P. Douglas
You said, "Also not supporting Windows XP, makes it unacceptable to the majority of businesses..."
In my experience, many businesses (maybe it's just in my business sector) do not allow any syncing to outside sources. Access to outside storage is a major security risk.
@P. Douglas Support for XP lasted long enough. Perhaps it's time for an upgrade?
@P. Douglas

Can you get full iCloud support on MacOS 10.6.x or iOS 4.x? You can't expect a company to support an Operating System forever. It has been 5 years since Vista came out so if a person chose to stick with XP or have a 6+ year old computer running it then they have to deal with the limitations of the OS. I know it sounds harsh but XP came out in late 2001. I know some people think that Vista and Windows 7 are nothing but a GUI change but there are many things on the back end that have changed that XP just cannot do.

It always amazes me that people will complain about new technologies not working with a 10+ year old Operating System (mainly Microsoft Operating systems) but are willing to accept when technology advances in other industries that their older tech will not be able to handle it.
@bobiroc Or you can upgrade to Oneric Ocelot and keep your 6 y.o. hardware going for a few more years with a snappy supported OS complete with Cloud and Social Media integration.....
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Okay MS this is simple
avatoin1 20th Feb
1. Let my buy more than 25GB of space and more than 5GB of syncing space.
2. Allow me to open PowerPoint and Excel documents without locking the file.
3. Add autosave to client version of Word, Excel, and PowerPoint
4. Allow me to save my Outlook settings online so that I can login from another Outlook or online and at least get the most recent headers from all my Hotmail and non-Hotmail e-mail in one place.
5. Replace the crappy Windows Live Mesh Remote Desktop with the actual Remote Desktop, its so much better.
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well...
Emi Cyberschreiber Updated - 20th Feb
@avatoin1

1. if you cared to read the blog post, you would know that

4. would be useful and maybe on Office 15, since Windows 8 will have mail client and it will sync through all your computers as its suppose to do since thats what Microsoft has told us. maybe office 15 is going o have the same.
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About time
johnfenjackson@... 20th Feb
Good news ... along with Spaces ... but aren't M$ slow?
Some of their people have left and formed companies like symform in the meantime.
At least this is more interesting than passing judgement on the new W8 logo.
I still can't figure out why anyone would develop programs for the Microsoft space. Time after time, companies have come up with wonderful programs and then gone into partnerships with Microsoft. Later, Microsoft steals their code and includes it for free in their product, then later pays a pittance of a fine to an already bankrupt company. Is everyone nuts?
@Tony Burzio
Yeah. There's no money to be made on Windows.
I'll stick with Dropbox for now. Fully cross platform, have it running on Linux Server, Windows Home Server 2011, Windows 7, OSX, iOS and Android. Works like a champ and no vendor lockin.
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so?
Emi Cyberschreiber 20th Feb
@rshol

so, congratulations...?
@Emi Cyberschreiber

I think he wants a round of applause.
@rshol ... just make sure you read the license agreement. The terms aren't very friendly. wink
It made sense to combine live mesh and skydrive. Much easier to maintain one product instead of two. Everything is being released around Microsoft Windows 8, expect huge changes in the computing world.
This is all great news. SkyDrive's always been excellent but such a massive wasted opportunity. The fact Live Mesh uses a subset of SkyDrive has infuriated users for years. It looks like this will finally be fixed.

It's great to see a Windows 8 Metro app BUT also Vista/Win7 support too. Explorer integration in Windows 7/Windows 8 will be so useful. I currently use the decent SDExplorer to copy/move files/folders in Explorer but something official would be nice.

It's also great to see a feature of Windows Live Sync 2009 (replaced by Live Mesh 2011) whereby you could access your hard disk remotely is returning. I don't always want to "sync" everything. Incidentally a Microsoft support rep told me it was removed because it wasn't secure enough. I guess they've fixed that.

All this really gives OS X Mountain Lion's iCloud integration a run for it's money, especially when that offers no general cloud storage at all (compared with 25Gb for SkyDrive).

What about Android though? There are unofficial third party apps but come on, release an app to accompany your iPhone/Windows Phone apps.
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A reactive post
allspammailhere 20th Feb
to lastest Adrian Kingsley-Hughes posts?
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Another Upgrade Trap?
ReadandShare 20th Feb
Live Mesh now works with only Win 7 -- not Win XP. If MS pushes a new improved SkyDrive to work only with Win 8 -- then I swear I will change my OS from Win 7 to Linux and my cloud from SkyDrive to "something else" that will be OS "agnostic". NO MORE UPGRADE "TRAPS" FOR ME!
@ReadandShare check out ubuntu one, you won't need to change your OS from win7 to anything. it works on win xp, vista, 7, ubuntu, android, ipad and iphone. i use ubuntu, so i know that it is well integrated in the OS, but you could check it out yourself for win.
@ReadandShare - yeah, why should I have to pay to get new features? Ridiculous! I tell my realtor the same thing: I already bought a house, I shouldn't have to upgrade to another home to get more rooms, a better location, a milder climate, or be closer to work -- I should get all that for free from now on!
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Emi Cyberschreiber Updated - 21st Feb
@ReadandShare
wow... more ignorant people like you.

if you READ THE ARTICLE it says:

"The ability to do desktop sync and fetching remote files will come soon afterwards for Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8, company officials said"

if you are silly enough and cant even read the article i don't know what you care commenting if you dont even know what you are talking about.

OBVIOUSLY windows 8 will have metro style skydrive and more integrated. but desktop application (which they explained AND showed on a video) can be installed in win8, 7 and even Vista.

i really don't care if you change to linux, or you dont get windows 8. but maybe you should learn HOW TO READ an article BEFORE commenting s.t.u.p.i.d things, that are already explained in the blog post from B8 and even on this Article.
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Emi Cyberschreiber 21st Feb
@ReadandShare
wow... more ignorant people like you, what a surprise /s

if you READ THE ARTICLE it says:

"The ability to do desktop sync and fetching remote files will come soon afterwards for Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8, company officials said"

if you are silly enough and cant even read the article i don't know what you care commenting if you dont even know what you are talking about.

OBVIOUSLY windows 8 will have metro style skydrive and more integrated. but desktop application (which they explained AND showed on a video) can be installed in win8, 7 and even Vista.

i really don't care if you change to linux, or you dont get windows 8. but maybe you should learn HOW TO READ an article BEFORE commenting silly things, that are already explained in the blog post from B8 and even on this Article.
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if you read the article
Emi Cyberschreiber 21st Feb
@ReadandShare
wow...
if you READ THE ARTICLE it says:

"The ability to do desktop sync and fetching remote files will come soon afterwards for Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8, company officials said"

OBVIOUSLY windows 8 will have metro style skydrive and more integrated. but desktop application (which they explained AND showed on a video) can be installed in win8, 7 and even Vista.

i really don't care if you change to linux, or you dont get windows 8. but maybe you should learn HOW TO READ an article BEFORE commenting ignorant things, that are already explained in the blog post from B8 and even on this Article.
ubuntu one is a similar feature and its well integrated into ubuntu. plus, it is cross platform, you can take your data to android, windows and macosx. if i am not wrong.
About SkyDrive, Cloud is great, as long as we have large upload bandwidth. Here in Greece (Europe), the max bandwidth home users have, is 1 Mbps.
So you trust Google+ not to mine your information for all that useful stuff they can use to get ad revenues? I'd rather trust Microsoft with my data, given the beating they've had over security over the years and the need to support corporates and government with their cloud solutions.... and anyway, SkyDrive is currently holding around 10 PetaBytes of customer data and they are expecting it to grow to over 100PB.

(although this may not compete with the amount of data that Google holds about every individual's browsing habits, emails, social networking, etc. happy but frankly that is excatly what worries me about them)

And don't forget the scale of Hotmail and the experience Microsoft have gained through growing this service over the years.
My guess with Windows Phone support, is that they are waiting for Windows Phone 8 and then they can use the same or most of the same code.
This is an excellent news from Microsoft and Im sure Ill use it - and one more reason to move to windows 8-.
Still want to know how Zune or rumored new music service fits into this. Store your music in the cloud with Skydrive accessible with any windows device including Xbox sounds like a surefire winner to me.
After all of the want abb??s stop pissing on each other on which is better or worse, only then will they realize that NONE of these company's or services are great or perfect. My hole thing always comes down to 2 things size and speed, and no on line offer comes close yet to a full desk top for my needs, so all this yelling that this is better or worse is only good for the ONE yelling.

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