Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

Summary: I've gotten more than a few queries from Live Mesh beta users asking how much more time they had to use the Microsoft synchronization service before the plug was pulled. The answer: You have until March 31, 2011.

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I've gotten more than a few queries from Live Mesh beta users asking how much more time they had to use the Microsoft synchronization service before the plug was pulled.

Liveside.net has the answer: You have until March 31, 2011. Between now and then, no new Live Mesh beta testers are being accepted, and you can only share Live Mesh folders with those who already have Live Mesh installed. Starting March 31, users will no longer be able to sign into their Live Mesh betas on their PCs, Macs or the Web, Microsoft officials said.

Yes, Microsoft has released the "final" version of Live Mesh as part of its recent Windows Live Essentials 2011 service. But a number of the folks I'm hearing from don't like the changes Microsoft made to Live Mesh and preferred the beta feature set.

Back when Microsoft first outlined its goals for Live Mesh -- one of Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie's pet projects -- the product was very ambitious. There were supposed to be Live-Mesh-enabled applications and live activity streams (which ended up in Messenger and other Microsoft products). There was a new Mesh Framework, as well as both a cloud and a client software run-time Mesh Operating Environment (MOE).

Most importantly, to many Live Mesh testers, there was the option to sync not just your PCs, but your phones, using the Live Mesh beta. The just-released Live Mesh does not support mobile phones. And not even all of your PCs are supported with the final version of Live Mesh, as the final is available only for Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and Mac OS X version 10.5 or later. There's no XP support.

Live Mesh ultimately became a mash-up between FolderShare (which was known as Windows Live Sync) and the PC-to-PC synchronization subset of the Live Mesh beta. Still useful for some, but nothing like the original product and vision.

As Liveside (and Microsoft) also reminded Windows Live users this week, the clock also is ticking for those who have created blogs on Windows Live Spaces. Microsoft is encouraging those users to migrate to WordPress or some other blog-hosting platform before they eliminate those blogs by March 16, 2011.

Topics: Software, Operating Systems, Windows

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for 30 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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  • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

    It is rather infantile of Microsoft to drop support for XP in Mesh. The only reason they have is to move users off XP to Vista or Win7.

    Guess what MS, most of us at the consumer level have moved over to Windows 7 no problem there, it is the XP boxes we have in the office that we need to sync data with that is the problem. I am not the CEO of the company, I don't have policy level decision to upgrade the office XP boxes, you are just punishing us unnecesarily for companies refusing to move to Win7. This is ridiculous.
    If you could mesh your competition's product, I don't see the reason why you couldn't mesh XP. We know XP is dead, we are not talking of remote access here and other fancy Mesh stuff, just sync data with XP. That was you "ubiquitous" promise of Mesh when you got us onboard!

    Sorry MJ, just have to get that off my chest. I have been campaining in the forum against this decision of MS without success, hopefully somebody that matters is reading your blog to influence this ridiculous decision.
    eInfinity
    • I agree

      @eInfinity,

      I have 1 Windows 7, and 2 Windows XP PCs at home, and now Live Mesh has become useless to me. I simply have to look for another solution. I can't even synch between my main (XP) machines, because Mesh failed on one, and I can no longer download it and re-install it on that machine. Is MS trying to push people off of Mesh? I don't get it.
      P. Douglas
    • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

      @eInfinity
      Completely agree to this as well. This is the exact scenario I am facing with my work machine. I have no power to get my company to change from XP, even though personally I have moved on to Win7. I have used the Live Mesh beta daily almost since it came out. I'm pretty pissed that XP won't be supported; I'd even take crippled support over none at all.
      krsanford
    • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

      @eInfinity This is ridiculous. I just got a new laptop for work, luckily I put Windows 7 on here. I was shocked to learn that Live Mesh Beta will no longer be supported! I tried to access my files that I have been backing up for a long time now from my other computers and nothing is there!
      prince_david@...
  • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

    Buddy, MS is a total disaster these days.... anyway there are options like dropbox and gladinet(http://www.gladinet.com/p/download_starter_direct.htm) for example
    kronox@...
    • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

      @kronox@... I use DropBox all the time between my PC's and Droid. Once it is set up it is all automatic. "Set it and Forget it" as an infomercial says.
      babyboomer57
  • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

    MICROSOFT Please... Please.. Please... add back support for XP machines. It's crazy to introduce something as wonderful as LiveMesh for syncing, and to allow users to adopt it into their production workflow, and then pull some of the best features. I don't mind that LM has become a part of Windows Live Essentials 2011 services, but I have 6 machines that I use LM for in testing environments ranging from XP, Vista, Win7, and to mobile. Also, what happend to identifying folders as being synced (i.e. blue folders)? At least give users more options, not less. Come on!!!
    msoucie@...
  • Sync. Mesh. XP. Win7 & Windows Live

    All are going bye bye here as of Jan 2011. I MEAN OUT OF HERE AFTER 15 YEARS!
    This major corporation has their heads in a posterior body cavity. The left hand no longer knows what the right hand is doing. More time is spent researching what they wish to change next .. and updating their POS software offerings than it is worth. Many SMBs we consult with are done with manuvering and stupidity of Microsoft.

    Consider the value of one share of Google stock at $300 this morning as apposed to MS at $25. We think the worldwide marketplace has placed a proper valuation on the worth of both companies. Is it not apparent that management with stock options (excepting Stevie B) have left seeing no value in their pay plan?
    CustomComputers
    • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

      @CustomComputers
      It may be worth noting that price per share alone doesn't mean anything when comparing publicly traded companies. Market capitalization can serve as a true comparison of valuation (stock price x shares outstanding): MSFT - 214.9B GOOG - 172.5B. Other comparisons can be made of Revenue: MSFT - 62.48B GOOG - 26.21B; and also on Net Income:MSFT - 18.76B GOOG - 7.4B.

      So I would agree with your statement: "the worldwide marketplace has placed a proper valuation on the worth of both companies"
      krsanford
      • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

        @krsanford Where is the Like button on this thread?
        MadWhiteHatter
  • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

    I know Microsoft is pushing to the cloud to create pirate free zones (temporarily). But kill your real customer base to fend off non-Customers? LiveMesh yet another really good product destroyed by bad decisions. Force me to go with Google again Microsoft?
    GBridge! (it's no LiveMesh, BUT) and TeamView and DropBox (what potential there, huh?)
    micka417
  • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

    MJ: "The just-released Live Mesh does not support mobile phones. And not even all of your PCs are supported with the final vers..."

    My Droid is synced with Windows Live Mesh. It only allows MS Messenger and Email syncing (as far as I can tell) but it does allow you to add your phone.

    I am totally confused as to why we need WLM and SkyDrive. I love SkyDrive, but really have no need for the WLM since my Droid has the capability to access Facebook, Twitter, etc. directly.

    I also use DropBox for anything unrelated to MS Office.
    babyboomer57
  • Anyone know?...

    Does the new mesh sync if one machine is off and the folder is not sync'd to Skydrive? In other words do both machines have to be on and logged in to sync with each other or is there a buffer mechanism beyond the skydrive?

    If dropbox integrates a remote desktop solution like vnc, we'd be set across all platforms.
    LarsDennert
  • Live Mesh yes, XP no

    Finally Microsoft getting some spine and realizing that they aren't helping the world by keeping XP afloat. Extending support to 2014 was dumb, in my opinion. For you home users the 3 user family pack upgrade to Win 7 is $150
    mswift@...
    • *sigh*

      @mswift@...

      There's a difference between "keeping [something] afloat" and intentionally disabling compatibility. My XP machine at home is a de facto storage server. It's only got 512MB of RAM and a single core AMD processor, but ultimately XP serves the purpose of providing FTP services and remote desktopping into my home network just wonderfully. My laptop runs Win7 just wonderfully, but there was/is no reason to drop money on a copy for my home server.

      In cases like this, there are basically 3 courses of action:
      -Don't sync.
      -Find a competing product.
      -Buy a copy of Win7.

      Which do you think I'm gonna pick?

      Joey
      voyager529
    • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

      @mswift@...

      Home users is one thing, the corporate cycle to migrate to Win 7 from XP is another thing. The latter takes some time, the majority of large companies have not rolled this out yet.
      doublesman
    • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

      @mswift@... Actually I went to the Microsoft Store yesterday, they have the Family Pack at $109, quite a steal.
      angarita calvo
  • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

    So, let me get this straight. I now look stupid as a CEO of a storage software company that has been pushing MESH internally, because I've said it is cornerstone technology to both Microsoft and Ozzie.

    We still have a number of PCs running XP and also casually use MESH. The cost in labor, productivity, and hardware to replace the XP machines is several thousand each. We often have to pry existing machines out of the engineers' hands if they are still operational. So there has to be some new compelling reason to change that would justify these costs, and it isn't MESH.

    I have three MESH XP PCs at home sharing 3GB of files. I finally just bought a new 64 bit Windows 7 machine. I installed MESH, expecting to easily add Windows 7 to my existing MESH network, only to find that I can't add my new machine?? Windows 7 also didn't tell me I couldn't join an existing MESH network, or why.

    I could go on with the rant, but IMO, Ozzie needs to ram some sense into the organization. I can't see Gates giving up on implementing his vision if he were there. Maybe Google will just buy Microsoft in another 5-10 years if they don't wake up.
    DRplanner
  • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

    My favorite feature about Mesh died with the roll out of the final version. I used to be able to RDP over 443. If I was at my office and my mother called me with a problem, I could have her change the account she logged into Mesh with to an administrative account just for me to administer her machine. Then I could fix it in a matter of seconds. It was a great set up I had to help out a lot of friends and family regardless if I was on my PC, my office PC, my wife's laptop, or at a hotel lobby PC. If nothing else, I'd just like to keep that.
    MadWhiteHatter
  • RE: Live Mesh beta users: The clock is ticking

    +1 on getting screwed because I have XP on my Office machine ... this is a bad bad move Microsoft , I mean I have dropbox for folder sync but the remote login capabilities was invaluable. I work for a very large company and the cycle to migrate to Win 7 takes a long time, and I am really at the mercy of when corporate IT does it :(. This sucks big time.
    doublesman