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Microsoft does a 180: Tech testers to get a copy of Windows 7 for free

By | July 30, 2009, 10:34am PDT

Summary: After irritating more than a few of its technical beta testers by telling them they wouldn’t get a free copy of the final version of Windows 7 for their testing trouble, Microsoft has done a 180-degree turn. Tech beta testers will get a free copy of Ultimate, after all.

After irritating more than a few of its technical beta testers by telling them they wouldn’t get a free copy of the final version of Windows 7 for their testing trouble, Microsoft has done a 180-degree turn.

Microsoft will be providing its technical beta testers with a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, company officials acknowledged on July 30 in a posting on the Windows team blog.

From that posting:

“To show our appreciation, members of the invitation-only Windows 7 Technical Beta Program will be eligible for a free, final copy of Windows 7 Ultimate. For more information on how to take advantage of this, refer to Paul (Donnelly)’s post in the .Beta_Program newsgroup for details.”

The free copies of Windows 7 Ultimate will go to technical beta testers only — not every individual who participated in the public Windows 7 Beta and Release Candidate testing programs.

Last week, on the heels of informing testers that it wouldn’t give them a free final copy, Microsoft had told testers it was going to close the beta forums quickly, over the course of a couple of days. Some testers speculated Microsoft was closing the forums because so many testers were expressing anger over not getting a free final copy of the product.

Nice to see Microsoft do the right thing here….

Update: Here’s the fine print of the offer (shared with me by a tester who asked to remain anonymous):

Details:

All current members of our English technical and international mini-beta programs are eligible.

· We are offering you a full (non-upgrade) copy of Windows 7 Ultimate Edition for your own personal use, not to be resold.

· You will be able to get access to your copy one of two ways:

A) To get up and running quickly you will be able to download your copy and get your product key via Microsoft Connect. English downloads will be available August 6th and other languages will follow as they become available.

B) Members of our English beta program have an alternative. We have reserved a limited amount of boxed retail copies that you can choose to receive instead. These are ‘first come, first served’. If you opt to have us ship you the boxed copy you should be aware that it will take much longer until you will be up and running on the final version. We will need time to manufacture and ship the copies to you. This means that you may not receive them until they are available on shelves October 22nd or later. Also, for people outside the United States you may be required to pay duties or other local taxes upon receipt.

Instructions and forms for choosing one of the above options will be available on Microsoft Connect on Monday August 3rd.

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RE: Microsoft does a 180: Tech testers to get a copy of Windows 7 for free
makrekdw87-24353647461810270232220173141352 11th Nov
bvmdza,good post!
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Still not the right thing
AttackComputerWhiz 30th Jul 2009
The public testers are the ones taking the risks with their personal equipment to see how the software works in the wild when the hardware is not cookie-cutter and the software being used is all over the place.

The very least MS could do is offer a HUGE discount to those who did the REAL testing.
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Uh.. THEY DID...
TheWerewolf 30th Jul 2009
You don't consider 50% off on their Premium and Pro versions a HUGE discount?
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You think
medezark@... 30th Jul 2009
The Mac fans and Linux folks who became enamored with Windows 7 want anything less than everything for free??
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Hardly
Win7Nightmares 30th Jul 2009
Mac and Linux fans know this is still Windows, viruses, spyware, blue screens of death, and all of the other problems. They could care less about getting it for free.
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Everyone should get a free copy
tikigawd 31st Jul 2009
The public testers are the ones taking the risks with their personal equipment

Like, totally, bro.
Every time I beta test software I demand a free copy of said software! It's not like companies tell me beta programs are not finished products, and can cause problems in my system. It's not my fault I didn't want to take the time to read Microsoft's warnings not to install the Win7 beta on my primary system since BETA means preliminary.

But forget that, even if you didn't beta test you should get a free copy. It is my right as a human being to receive free copies of anything I want! I breathe oxygen, dammit. It's my right!!
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Really..
tgreaves21227@... Updated - 31st Jul 2009
Microsoft has the right to choose to make the software..

Only choise you have is to choose to buy it or not..

You have the right to a free copy of Linux, go do that..
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I think he was being tongue in cheek!
Patanjali 3rd Aug 2009
nt
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Jeeez....
Gis Bun 31st Jul 2009
Jeeez..... I guess you don't know much about testing. Whether you are in a testing program or maybe just on your own, you NEVER test an application on a "production" computer [or at home on your regular system]. Nobody does.

I tested for 4 versions of CorelDraw and used a separate partition. Copied a sample of my sata files [as the new version would update the old versions and you can't go back].

I worked at one place and someone elsewhere decided to connect a beta of Windows 2000 server to the network [story goes back a bit]. Well that beta caused network problems.
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Agreed, 100%.
HypnoToad72 31st Jul 2009
Plenty of people, uninvited or otherwise, did real testing.

Microsoft's resulting gratitude? Ask Steve Baller: "Foreign profits makes US jobs more expensive." Just how is FREE too expensive? What planet did he move to...
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The complete quote
HypnoToad72 31st Jul 2009
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ROTFL
pdickey043@... Updated - 2nd Aug 2009
Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh at this. The public testers aren't the only ones taking any risks. Do you think that Microsoft gave the Tech testers special equipment to test with?

I used my main home desktop for the tech beta (dual-booting with my main OS) and my laptop with a tripl-boot between XP Media Center, Windows 7, and Kubuntu. Microsoft didn't give me anything.

Guessing there are about 9 million "public" beta testers, do you really think that Microsoft should give out 9 million copies of Windows 7 for free? Where do we draw the line then? Anyone who dowloads the RC build before August 31? How about anyone who downloaded the builds off of torrent sites?

Get real, please. You're basically saying that you only tried the beta out because you thought that you could get a free copy at the end. I can honestly say, that I joined the tech beta under the assumption that they wouldn't give out a free copy. I joined to try and make it better, and because I know the PM for the beta.

Have a great day:)
Patrick.
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I would agree but
rparker009 3rd Aug 2009
Only those who sent back usable feedback.. Not just had it running on thier pc.
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A lovely gesture
Mr. Dee 30th Jul 2009
I wonder what those persons who complained so much are saying now? I think there is a lot of foot in the mouth disease going around right about now.
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Eh?
LeoD 30th Jul 2009
If Person A complains that Person B hasn't done something, and as a result Person B does that thing, it's a victory for Person A, not a defeat.

People complain about things in the hope that they will change, not to make a statement that they hope will be true forever with no action ever taken in response.
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Another "Hardly"
Win7Nightmares 30th Jul 2009
They are saying "about time". Microsoft probably did this because (a) the negative publicity regarding their ignoring the technical beta testers was too great and (b) they're seeing cracks in activation already, which means they worried too much about alleged leaks from the tech beta testers and not enough about leaks from their "trusted" partners.
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Lovely gesture? Are you serious?
Wintel BSOD 31st Jul 2009
LOL... grin

They should've done the right thing to begin with.

Cheap bastards...
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You'd be right and surprised
pdickey043@... 2nd Aug 2009
There's some in every crowd.. Some that turn around and say "Thanks" and some that will still complain about it. That's not intended to be a confirmation or repost of anytyhing being said in the tech testers groups, just meant to point out human nature.

Have a great day:)
Patrick.
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A Free Upgrade to all Vista Users?
jeffs0413@... 30th Jul 2009
Microsoft could have the all time PR coup by providing all who were forced to buy Vista a free upgrade. This move would affect mainly consumers who had no other viable option other than vista.

Changing the policy towards beta testers show some flexability.

We are all painfully aware that most business customers did not adopt Vista. Microsoft could eliminate support for vista if every vista user received a free copy of win7.
jeff
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Correction....
Fark Updated - 30th Jul 2009
"Microsoft could eliminate support for Vista if every Vista user was FORCED to upgrade to a free copy of win7."

At which point they would be boiled for FORCING the upgrade on people. "Whaaa... I don't want Win7... you're evil and I will continue to call you M$... there must be a disingenuous motive here!"

They also would take a huge hit by essentially agreeing with the Mac/PC ads. "So... PC, I hear Vista Ballmer admitted Vista was a flop by killing the code in its entirety." "Yeah, well, you've been saying that all along."

Think about it from THEIR perspective before saying what they should do. I'm sure they don't think VISTA was so bad it should be completely killed off and all code owners personally begged for forgiveness, right?
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forced ?
sjaak327 30th Jul 2009
Who exactly were forced to upgrade to Vista ?

Anyway Vista is a rock solid operating system, so I don't think that a free upgrade is needed here.

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NOT! The fact is from all the testing I have
personally done, Windows XP is SLOWER at most
things than Windows Vista is on the same system,
same hardware, etc.

These people really need to realize that Vista is
NOT slow when it comes down to it.
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Riightt....
Wintel BSOD 31st Jul 2009
These people really need to realize that Vista is NOT slow when it comes down to it.

Isn't it a little too late for that?

wink
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I wouldn't go that far.
ShadowGIATL 31st Jul 2009
While Vista is now a solid OS, unless you're referring to the x64 versions, Vista is not faster then XP on the same hardware. Nor was it ever intended to be.

Vista is a more advanced OS, and it was designed to run on faster hardware. The performance hits was part of what the two services packs addressed, and now Vista SP2 is a stable and responsive OS. With XP, if the service packs wheren't slipstreamed into the install media, it actually made the OS slower. This doesn't appear to be the case with Vista so far as I can tell.

But to make a bold claim that Vista is faster then XP on the same hardware... far reaching in my opinion.
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Well I'm glad it's only your opinion
Wintel BSOD 31st Jul 2009
God forbid if it was fact...
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Right, NOT!
mrohwohlt@... 3rd Aug 2009
I Agree with you Lerianis10, XP is slower at some if not most things whan the OS is just changed. The same goes for Vista to Windows 7. I am using my primary system (changed the HD just in case) and I will be sticking with 7.

Never had issues with XP or Vista and so far 7 is good!
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Yes Forced
TxTopgun 3rd Aug 2009
Unless they had the know how and literally days to hunt for drivers, many people were forced into Vista with their new system. I downgraded a couple of systems for friends and found it to be a ROYAL pain. Some of the newer motherboard manufacturers never thought about anyone trying to go back so there were no drivers available for many features included in their hardware. These folks were forced to choose between a hobbled system that was brand new or stick it out with Vista.

Now before anyone starts bashing, I personally like Vista and am running Vista Business, Vista Home Premium 64, and Windows 7 RC on the three computers at my desk. My wife's computer runs XP Pro. I have three laptops running Vista Basic, three more running XP, and one Windows 2000. And yes, I have the knowledge, ability, and software to available to make them run whatever operating system I choose, so wail away. Oh, did I forget the XP desktop systems I have in storage because I replaced them with laptops?

LOL!!!
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Maybe not free...
Win7Nightmares 30th Jul 2009
... but at least charge only for duplication, shipping and handling... maybe, say, $29, like Apple is doing vor its next OS release?

Actually, the simplest thing for Microsoft to do would be to change the activation scheme to allow use of Vista product keys, and allow users to download Windows 7 themselves, as they did for Beta and RC. No duplication, shipping or handling costs. Lost revenue for MS? Yes, but infinite good PR in light of the Vista debacle.
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Vista debacle?
jmiller1978 Updated - 31st Jul 2009
Leave it to the blog era to turn a good product into a bad one. I've been using Vista since launch and happily at that. Since day one, Vista has given me way less hassle than any other version of Windows. People seem to forget XP pre-SP2, it wasn't fun nor pretty.

MS's biggest problem with Vista was taking so long to release it. It gave people a chance to really get complacent with XP. The OS is about to be 8 years old come this October!

BTW, MS gave you a chance to upgrade to Win7 for $49. If you didn't take it, well shame on you. Big difference between Apple and MS, Apple doesn't have 350+ million users of Leopard. Guarenteed if Apple had even 100 million users of Leopard, they wouldn't be doing the $29 upgrade.



P.S. I'm also a Leopard user looking forward to the upgrade to Snow Leopard.
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Even Microsoft Admits It
Win7Nightmares 31st Jul 2009
Microsoft admits it made a huge mistake with Vista since it required more computing resources than XP ever did. They released it without driver support for many common devices. They put so much emphasis on the Aero interface, which needed higher-end graphics hardware, that they forgot about regular functionality. Microsoft even admitted this in their release of Windows 7... for the first time they released an OS that actually had a ower hardware requirement than its predecessor. Vista is better today than when it was released, but that was over 2 years ago and the problems were eventually addressed by vendors and 2 service packs. Until then, though, it was a mess.

And don't get me started (Continue)
on (Continue)
User Account (Continue)
Control! (Continue)
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Vista upgrade to Windows 7
kschwab@... 31st Jul 2009
When I purchased my Dell computer last year, it came with Windows Vista preloaded. Since then I have constantly wished I had Windows XP back.

When I had the opportunity to beta test Windows 7, I jumped at the chance; anything to get rid of Vista. Now, I still wish that I had XP back.
I just can't see what all of the advantages of the new operating system are. I know, of course, that they are there. Microsoft would'nt
lie to me.
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You're dreaming
Gis Bun 31st Jul 2009
Microsoft would never offer that. Too costly.

You will also have people who wouldn't know of this "free" upgrade" and continue to use Vista.

You can't stop support of the product.

Hey. They're still supporting IE 5.01 for Windows 2000. How many people are using Windows 2000? Not many but there are still a few. i know one. [Not everyone can afford to get the latest. I know of one household with Win Me and Win 98!]
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A Free Upgrade to all Vista Users?
KillBitX 30th Jul 2009
Not all customers would upgrade. MS provide IE7 and IE8, but people still won't upgrade and it's free.
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Because they know it's junk
Wintel BSOD Updated - 31st Jul 2009
...and they can't give it away. That's why...

Not all customers would upgrade. MS provide IE7 and IE8, but people still won't upgrade and it's free.
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Not all will upgrade
chuckles1000 3rd Aug 2009
I upgraded to IE8 and it stopped my SAP progrm from the State of Pennsylvania from working. SAP has all our leave and other info on it and losing use of that was a severe loss. Once I uninstalled IE8 No Problem. I'm of the I want to upgrade but "If it aint broke don't fix it" crowd. I'm sure SAP will upgrade at some point to fix this problem but I couldn't wait for that to happen.
Good PR move.

Not like it would have cut into their gazillion dollars of profits.

Onuora
http://www.windows7update.com
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Um, HEELLLLOOOOO! The public were not testers, they were users. BIG difference. Being a Beta tester requires more than just downloading and using the Beta and RC copies. The fact that you believe that the public in any way were testers shows how little you understand the beta process.

Technical testers were putting Windows 7 through a lot more paces than anyone in the public beta or RC users. They are expected to report reproducible bugs and then work with support engineers to solve the problems. That is something the public users never get.

TO compare the technical testers and the public ususers is like comparing apples and donkeys.
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Confused by religion Updated - 1st Aug 2009
Yes, it's true, I have my free Windows 7 x64 version here and installed and activated.

Thanks!
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Nice try, Mr. Big Shoes
Win7Nightmares 30th Jul 2009
That's like "Bozo". If you knew anything, you'd know that MS isn't allowing download of RTM until August 6th, unless you're admitting to piracy. Nice try.
Um... they did, on Professional and Home Premium. 50% to be exact... and, according to neowin.com, members of the public who actively participated in the Windows Feedback Program will also be eligible for a free copy of Ultimate. So, your point is moot.

As far as "risks with their personal equipment", welcome to the world of real beta testing. If you can't deal with the "risks", you have no business installing ANY pre-release software.
It never ceases to amaze me the stupid things Microsoft does. It shouldn't have even been an issue in the first place.
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Not just Microsoft
justthinking 31st Jul 2009
It never ceases to amaze me the stupid things Microsoft does. It shouldn't have even been an issue in the first place.

It's not just Microsoft that does stupid things...it's any large corporation that gets too far from the customer. They start to believe their own hype and feel that they know what the customer wants (much more than the customer ever could on their own).

There's a litany of companies that hoist themselves on their own petards including Apple, IBM, Oracle, Proctor & Gamble, SAP, Dell, etc...and have had to reverse previous (very) public decisions.

In many cases it's not even a corporate strategic decision but a tactical one done at a low level that unfortunately gets elevated to prominence based on it's inanity and relevance to the daily zeitgeist.
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Huh?
Wintel BSOD 31st Jul 2009
Sad that it takes an uproar to do the right thing.

Then why do you defend them so much? Their pettiness and their greed.

It never ceases to amaze me the stupid things Microsoft does. It shouldn't have even been an issue in the first place.

Now maybe you can understand why some people can't stand them in the first place.
Yes! I will surely use this product key for a BootCamp install on my MacBook Pro at home.
I wonder I would get a free copy of win 7, for I did test Win 7 and the email from MS said it was a closed beta test.
I (and others like me) have run this BETA for quite a while and have sent relevent feed back about some problems that i (we) have experianced.Seeing as how i (we) have run this operating system on my main PC & have reported back to Microsoft, this should put us in a position for Microsoft to recipicate and give all particapants a free copy for our help however small or large the contabution.
I was one of the (early) beta-testers of Windows-XP and we *were* promised a free (or, at the very least, a highly cost-reduced) copy of XP. It *never* materialized and when I called MS, they acted as though they had NO *clue* as to what I might be talking about.

You couldn't trust them then and you sure as all *hell* can't trust them now.
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So was I
rtk 31st Jul 2009
and no we weren't promised a free or near-free copy. It's the same sense of entitlement that has existed in every beta program from most vendors of commercial software.

If you're a selected, internal or technical beta tester, there's no question you'll get a copy. MS has repeatedly given free copies to active public beta participants as well.

My guess is your feedback amounted to "it sucks", and you got paid for your effort in return.
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...because you'd confuse it with one of your Michael Jackson CDs

lol... grin
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just said it was never promised to the beta testers as a group.

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RE: Microsoft does a 180: Tech testers to get a copy of Windows 7 for free
makrekdw87-24353647461810270232220173141352 11th Nov
bvmdza,good post!

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