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Microsoft does an about-face; offers free Security Essentials to small businesses

By | September 22, 2010, 11:09am PDT

In an about-face, Microsoft is now planning to offer its free Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) antivirus/antimalware software to small businesses, and not just consumers.

Starting in early October, Microsoft will allow small businesses to install MSE on up to 10 PCs for free. If they need antimalware/antivirus for more than 10 PCs, Microsoft is still pushing them to consider its Forefront line of products.

Offering MSE to small businesses is a change in policy. In May of this year, I had a number of small-business customers and partners asking me whether Microsoft would support them using MSE, since the company’s position had been that MSE was a consumer-only product. Microsoft execs told me no, repeating that “Microsoft Security Essentials continues to be available for consumers and home-based businesses.  The Microsoft Security Essentials OEM Pre-installation Kit (OPK) was made available to OEM partners as a way to offer a pre-installed security solution on home use PCs.”

Microsoft was attempting to push small-business customers — other than “small-home-based businesses with only a few individually managed PCs” — to use its paid Forefront line of products. (I’m unclear what today’s announcement signifies about Microsoft positioning of Forefront and have asked for a comment. No word back so far.) Microsoft officials say the move has nothing to do with its positioning of Forefront.)

So what’s behind today’s change? It’s partially about small businesses being unable and/or unwilling to pay for security software, the Softies acknowledge. But it’s also about licensing.

“This extended availability to small businesses centers on a change to the End User Licensing Agreement (EULA) that allows small business customers to legally download the software onto individually managed business PCs,” a spokesperson said, via an e-mailed statement.

The line between MSE and Forefront client (and its still-unfinished successor, Forefront Endpoint Protection) has been a bit murky, other than the face MSE is free. Microsoft delivered new betas of both the next release of MSE and Forefront Endpoint Protection in June of this year, with execs committing that both would ship in final form before the end of this calendar year.

The new beta of MSE included Windows Firewall integration (allowing users to turn on or off the Windows Firewall during setup); Internet Explorer integration for additional protection against Web-based attacks; an updated anti-malware engine; and network inspection system functionality to help fend off network-based exploits.

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RE: Microsoft does an about-face; offers free Security Essentials suite to small businesses
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Ouch
guy.gregory 22nd Sep 2010
After hearing that, I wonder if Intel still think McAfee was worth paying $7.7bn for...
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Good move...
Mr. Dee 22nd Sep 2010
Its better to have security than none at all. I have moved all my personal systems to MSE, its just not worth it to pay Symantec or McAfee anymore. With the rave reviews its been getting along with strong protection built in its a good recommendation for those who are just interested in paying for something that should be free or probably built into the OS in the first place.
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It should, but it can't
Cylon Centurion 22nd Sep 2010
@Mr. Dee

Thank the Anti-trust folk for that.
@0005 , I don't see why it would be an anti-trust issue. They build in and offer lots of products for free including for example the Windows firewall. They aren't trying to destroy competition, they're trying to improve security - and you don't see any anti-trust whining about firewalls. It should be built-in but easy to disable if you prefer another product.
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How about...
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 22nd Sep 2010
Do what Ubuntu Linux does for free:
Provide an iron-clad LSM sandbox for ALL Apps.

Now, that would make a BIG difference.
Of course, that isn't going to happen.

So, why not consider a switch?
Ubuntu Linux: The safest operating system on the planet.

I stake my reputation on it.

Thanks Mary Jo. happy
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That's Just Great...
trickytom3 22nd Sep 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

So, I move to Ubuntu, and every time I go to a tech-industry event, I can walk around trying to figure out where the 1% of Ubuntu-users are. Better yet, every time the presenter shows off a cool new application, I can be the one who yells out..."does it run on Ubuntu?".

No thanks.
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Why would you want to do that?
OS Reload Updated - 22nd Sep 2010
Why would you try to figure out where Ubuntu-users are? And every time! Really?

Most probably they don't give a damn about people like you so why would you want to meet them?

By the way, I'm wondering, what would you be doing at that-tech industry event? Don't they have enough janitors there already? And that "will work for food" sign you're wearing won't take you far at a tech event.
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@trickytom3
LOL! Great post and its got so much truth to it. All I can say is that he got served!
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Loverock is in rare form today. NOT.
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate Updated - 22nd Sep 2010
@Loverock Davidson

Seriously, you were actually more astute when you were over-medicating with DayQuil.

Now, you've got your pom poms out.
Great cheer leading.
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And it gets worse
OS Reload Updated - 22nd Sep 2010
@trickytom3

Look who's siding with you. Tom, say hello to lovey.

With "friends" like lovey who needs enemies, hey tom?

P.S. why don't you lend him one of your "will work for food" signs? I'm sure lovey could use a new one, the one he's wearing is falling apart from overuse.
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I love me some spam in the afternoon
Cylon Centurion 22nd Sep 2010
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

Ok, I lied. Dietrich, cut the spam... Go to the Linux blog to post this.
or shouted out loud on the street, Dietrich's message is always relevant and by no means it is spam, so

Why don't you accept it for what it is and stop trying to censor it?
Wether (sic) posted on a Linux blog, a Windows blog or shouted out loud or shouted out loud on the street, Dietrich's message is always relevant and by no means it is spam, so

Why don't you accept it for what it is and stop trying to censor it?


Wow... the pathetic thing is you don't even get the irony in what you wrote.
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

Quit staking what you do not have. Ubuntu and other linux distros are good and all but they cannot do everything windows can. Your problem is that you do not think outside of your little box and think that because Ubuntu works for you it should work for everyone. You also neglect the fact that if hackers or malware writers saw value in attacking Ubuntu or any other linux distro they would. I am not sure what drugs you are on but clearly they have taken your mind.
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Are you friends with Hackers and malware writers?
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 22nd Sep 2010
@bobiroc
You know what. That is a specious argument. It won't matter who attempts to write what because when the time comes, AppArmor LSM steps in and denies any privilege escalation.

That's the whole point of LSM. Or did you miss that?
Read up on LSM and then form an educated opinion as opposed to spouting some regurgitated story you heard.

You are too funny.
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

How's that sandbox working out for you

http://www.zdnet.com/news/linux-kernel-exploit-roots-64-bit-machines/467493

See Linux is not safe from exploits if someone wants to take the time to find them. It is just not many people care to go after the OS because no one really uses it.
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You stilll don't get it, do you?
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 23rd Sep 2010
@bobiroc
I didn't say Linux has no software defects that may result in exploits.

I maintain that LSM is your protection for zero-day exploits. A profiled App with LSM simply cannot be exploited.

Which means you can relax with Ubuntu in the knowledge that any reported exploit will get patched in a timely fashion (days or even the same day reported) and your LSM profiled App is safe from exploit.

Get it? That is the key difference between Windows and Linux.

Ubuntu Linux: The safest operating system on the planet.

I stake my reputation on it.
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

Yes DTS there's nothing better than watching a totally secure OS with no apps.

One of these days you might actually have to do something with that computer.

Anyway I'm sure you and the other Ubuntu user are very happy.
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One of these days?
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 23rd Sep 2010
@tonymcs@...
Oh, you mean when I use Linux at work? Oh yeah, did I forget to mention I use Linux at work?

Yeh, that's right! happy
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

I think it would be much appreciated if you could quit posting this non-sense. You've been posting this crap forever now, and it has done nothing but make you look, quite frankly, idiotic, and fills the boards with spam, your "reputation" has been revealed time and time again to hold little value, and you have been banned countless times for posting threads promoting your business, and off topic crap.

Clearly the new post over on the security blog has proven you r schtuff to hold little truth. If you wish to continue posting this non-sense, please start a Wordpress blog, but quit posting this non-sense here.

Thank you.
ZDNet Talkbackers
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I don't know. What is your point?
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate Updated - 23rd Sep 2010
@Cylon Centurion 0005
Maybe you should become a moderator for ZDnet. Yes?

And how is your reputation these days? Seems you keep changing your alias?

Is that because you are confident in what you write at ZDNet or is it because you have a hidden agenda?

My name is right there and there's no hiding my agenda.
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

While I agree that most Linux systems are safe, I also find that most Windows systems I deal with are safe also. It simply comes down to user education and proper setup/use of systems and accounts.

That said... Stake your reputation on this nearly 2 year old item of Linux unpatched safety. http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security-threats/2010/09/21/linux-kernel-exploit-roots-64-bit-machines-40090177/?s_cid=116
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He already did.
ye 23rd Sep 2010
@88Fan: That said... Stake your reputation on this nearly 2 year old item of Linux unpatched safety. http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security-threats/2010/09/21/linux-kernel-exploit-roots-64-bit-machines-40090177/?s_cid=116

And he lost. Notice his wording has changed to "applications" and no longer includes the kernel?
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Another who completely skirts the issue and misses the point.
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 23rd Sep 2010
@88Fan

Security Essentials is an attempt to bolster the security of Windows which is defective.

If Microsoft cannot come up with an LSM equivalent then I maintain that there will be no end to the littany of security issues people are experiencing every day with Windows.

LSM is essential to protect all Apps from Zero-day exploits.

Your above-referenced 64-bit root kit reference has nothing to do with the fact that LSM stops zero-day exploits from escalating on Linux systems.

I never said: "There are no exploitable software defects in Linux"

There will always be a potential for exploitable software defects and LSM was designed for that very reason.
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

Running all apps inside LSM is a waste of system resources. Microsoft post XP runs Internet Explorer in a virtualized environment. This in addition to proper security configuration (UAC, proper user privileges, anti-malware, firewall) works very well.

Not going to say it's perfect, no software is (I will stake my reputation on that). That little LSM walled garden can be owned by the rootkit since the kernel loads before LSM... Coders have proved time and again that platform doesn't matter. Maybe, just maybe; there is a reason for more anti-virus/malware vendors supporting *nixes these days.

Linux on the desktop is still not acceptable to the vast majority of corporate decision makers, and until it is it will remain mostly an ubergeek toy that gets used for servers and IT desktops. When it hits desktops with the scale of MS or Apple you will start seeing more exploits... all about popularity and ease of targeting. It won't reach that scale until everyone can go grab Halo, QuickBooks, MS Office, PhotoShop, or any other piece of software and install it without having to jump through hoops. And that won't happen until developers jump on board and code for it, you have to be able to run software that people know and want to get market share.

That said - I use Windows, OSx, Slackware, and BSD on my systems. And I've been using Slackware since version 2.
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate: I stake my reputation on it.

You already bet what little reputation you had and lost.
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Bluster.
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 23rd Sep 2010
@ye
In all of the comments I see no mention that Windows does not offer LSM.

All of the preceding 'personal' remarks simply mean there is no arguing my point.

So, you have no intelligent reply? Or do you prefer to get personal?
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how about schools?
romanca 22nd Sep 2010
how about schools, are schools eligible for MSE?
@romanca

If you have less than 10 computers I would suppose. Forefront is pretty cheap for education. We just moved from McAfee and we are saving nearly $10,000 a year compared to McAfee for what I feel is better protection. McAfee wants to charge more for spyware protection and charges extra for exchange integration where Forefront does not. With all the computers and servers we have installed Forefront on I think it came to about $3 a workstation/server or so.

EDIT: Oh and it eats up considerably less resources on the computer. McAfee would eat a processor/memory alive during an update or scan.
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I'm Confused...
trickytom3 22nd Sep 2010
Why would I pay for the Forefront client, which is essentially the same thing as MSE?
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I think
Cylon Centurion 22nd Sep 2010
@trickytom3

Forefront is meant for larger deployments and includes some centralized management.
@trickytom3

Yes and no. Same basic engine but with Forefront you can manage centrally for updates and scanning policies and get reports of machines infected and have a much better way of keeping all your workstations protected. I would hate to have to check the nearly 2700 windows workstations and servers I manage individually. Forefront Rocks too BTW.
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Forefront Licensing vs MSE 10PC limit
GoodThings2Life 22nd Sep 2010
Microsoft's definition of Small Business and mine are a bit different. I generally consider up to 50 to be small business. But anyway, regardless of that limit, it's a nice deal for the very small offices that don't need centralized management.

I wonder if this is a setup for Forefront Endpoint Protection being cheaper than the usual $13/year + $100/year for the management component, especially with Windows InTune services pending release for that SMB space.
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Dear OS Reload
trickytom3 22nd Sep 2010
As I have posted to several of your other identities, I will no longer respond to your posts for the following reasons:

1. You do not posess sufficient technology skills to warrant my notice.

2. Your posts are filled with personal attacks

3. I do not argue with children

I urge others on these boards to ignore OS Reload.
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I'm an exception, I actually do a cursory reading of your posts, not too attentively I must admit (your writing is not that good, for Christ's sake) but I try.

And that over-sized "will work for food" card you carry everywhere you go is gaining you no followers so don't expect to see anyone following you on this one.

P.S. Only now did I notice this "pearl" on your post above: "You do not possess sufficient technology skills to warrant my notice " (I wonder why I missed it in my cursory reading, it's market #1 and all.) But... c'mon , doesn't the fact that you went to the trouble of starting a new thread about me disprove your whole point?
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Looks to me like you have just responded to OS Reload
Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate 23rd Sep 2010
@trickytom3
You are contradicting yourself.
@trickytom3: As I have posted to several of your other identities...
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Yup, I've been ignoring him too
NonZealot 23rd Sep 2010
@trickytom3
I urge others on these boards to ignore OS Reload.

There are a few ZDNet talkbackers who simply aren't worthy of a reply. This guy is one of them. I too encourage people to just ignore him. Eventually, the only people who will respond will be his other identities. How sad. sad
This alleviates the problem of System Builders selling PC?s to the general public, wherein a small business owner might purchase one but not remove Security Essentials from the PC after they get through the Out-Of-Box-Experience. Prior to this change, it would be a loss of value-add return, AND breach of end-user license agreement. We always felt that it placed a potential legal burden on builders that knowingly sell systems to business customers with Microsoft?s recommended OEM System Builder image that includes Microsoft Security Essentials. We would like to offer value-added services for Forefront Client Security for businesses (which is still a good deal at only $12US/PC/year), but at least now the very small business customer is no longer breaching the license agreement by using the preinstalled software out of the box. Quite frankly, the time, cost and headache involved in setting up a volume license agreement for that size of business customer shows little to no return anyway. I?ve always advocated that Microsoft release a cost-effective retail version antivirus for businesses, to eliminate the speed bumps caused by volume licensing setup, which can take well over a week to get established ? and often longer. Going through the VLSC for security software is a major time-waster and headache for resellers, and the returns just aren?t there for the low-cost products. I would personally prefer to see security software offered in a faster setup channel than the VLSC, even if it meant that it didn?t count towards purchase minimums for volume licensing. Access to security software licensing should be instantly available. The MSE announcement is a win for computer purchasers, but does nothing for resellers and system builders that want to build upon value-added sales of Forefront Client Security AND close deals fast.
Foundation server is the lowest-CAL server product, and it caps out at 15. Aurora is 25, and Small Business Server itself is 75.

In which of those platforms would the server requirements of the central management features of Forefront Client Security fit?

A: Unless the customer already has a SQL Server setup for an LOB that they can offload some processing power to the management role of FCS, none.

FCS's management capabilities and requirements are designed for enterprises. The SOHO and SMB market is looking for central monitoring and management of connected PC's and small business servers, and the only other option is Windows InTune, which is not out of beta. I'd be happy if there was a "Forefront-lite" product that worked off the free SQL Server Express database engine. At least the businesses that want to centrally manage the products could do so without a major cost or computing overhead.
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