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Microsoft .Net RIA Services: Not until 2010

By | June 11, 2009, 9:06am PDT

Microsoft officials provided this week a timetable for the rollout of .Net RIA (Rich Internet Application) Services, the technology codenamed “Alexandria.”

.Net RIA Services is designed to allow coders to bring together the .Net programming model with Microsoft’s Silverlight competitor to Adobe Flash. Microsoft made a Community Technology Preview (CTP) of the technology available in March, but didn’t provide any final availability information.

On June 9, company officials rolled out the delivery timetable for .Net RIA Services via a blog post. The schedule:

  • Another CTP test build (without a Go-Live license) is coming in July
  • A beta is coming in November, timed with the Professional Developers Conference. This will add more support for Visual Studio 2010 and .Net 4.0
  • Release to Web: “First part of 2010″

Speaking of Visual Studio 2010, Microsoft still hasn’t provided a final due date for its forthcoming tool suite. For a while, it was sounding like, in spite of the name, VS 2010 would likely ship in late 2009. Microsoft fielded in May its first VS 2010 beta, which a number of testers I know think has a way to go before it’s ready for prime time. So maybe VS 2010 will be a 2010 deliverable, after all….

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Microsoft RIA MIA
honeymonster 11th Jun 2009
Flash/Flex is so far ahead that it is not even funny any more.
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Is this like Flex Data Services/Livecycle? This one's gonna be an important part of Azure then.
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Won't be for anything meaningful
Kaiwai 11th Jun 2009
Don't expect any meaningful applications to be written
using a multiplatform technology - everything ultimately
has to be tied into Windows and thus from Windows back
into Microsoft's internet services. It is a giant tie in only
there to further their dominance.

The day when you see Microsoft write applications that can
be run unmodified on multiple platforms and operating
systems will be the day when over 20 years of
management, dogma and NIH is thrown out the window.
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Slightly cynical?
dawmail333@... 12th Jun 2009
Gee, you seem to have a GREAT opinion of Microsoft. What is your problem with them? It's not like Silverlight needs a Windows server anyway (tested and proven), and Mono works for ASP.Net on Linux. Microsoft have made their .Net framework open, which is the only reason that Mono is actually getting anywhere. I'm just waiting until people start to treat Microsoft like they do Google. What does everyone have against massively successful corporations?
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Another idiot who fails to read
Kaiwai 12th Jun 2009
I am talking about applications based on those technologies not the
technologies themselves - but hey, you're a pathetic troll who keeps
ignoring what people write just so you can hear the sonar echo if your
own ego going off.

Name me one single applications Microsoft has written in pure dot net
that I can pick up and run on a .net implementation on another
platform. Name one full blown application by Microsoft written by
them based on Silverlight which I can run as a stand alone application
along the same lines as Adobe AIR on a non-Microsoft platform. When are we going to see Microsoft Office appear in an RIA format
based on pure .NET or silverlight where I can take it and run it on a
non-Microsoft platform?

Again, you ignore what I asked; I want applications based on those
technologies not the technologies themselves. I know about the
implementation called Mono, now I want to see applications that are
actually 100% .NET Framework native (which makes no win32 calls -
so it is only dependent on .NET components).
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not in this world
keoz 12th Jun 2009
Its just not possible simply because the kernels are different written and someone has to adapt it you cant have a framework without system calls is just like frameworks in linux, their applications cant be run natively in windows and viceversa, thats not gonna happen ever the best bet now is virtualization i think thats real interoperability and with cloud services growing up, the desktop OS will be more less and less relevant so i dont think investing in the interop you talk about is worth investing for any company out there not even open source
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Chill!
davidv@... 12th Jun 2009
Dude, you sure are angry--chill!
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RE: Microsoft .Net RIA Services: Not until 2010
Leonard.Reinhart@... 12th Jun 2009
Using SilverLight and RIA I have been working on a
replacement for some vb6 code, that runs under Citrix and
does CRUD on a SQLServer, so far it is looking pretty good.
There have been some difficult times, like getting a combo
box to work on a data form. It has impressed everyone who
has seen it with speed and good looks. Once I get a recipe
down I can really fly. I was hoping for a license to run sooner
than the stated schedule though. I wanted to deliver by
October of this year.
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Actually the production (go-live) restrictions might be removed with the coming July CTP, still not officially supported but hopefully you may use it as is from then. More on the roadmap here: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/06/09/ria-services-roadmap-updated.aspx
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I'm relieved to see that the RIA "Iceberg" (http://bit.ly/33mP1b)is acknowledged and discussed.
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