Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

Summary: Even though Microsoft delivered updated Windows Phone 7 development tools to testers in early February, the first software update to Windows Phone 7 isn't here yet. In fact, according to various testers and other sources with whom I've spoken, it won't arrive until early March.

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Even though Microsoft delivered updated Windows Phone 7 development tools to testers in early February, the first software update to Windows Phone 7 isn't here yet. In fact, according to various testers and other sources with whom I've spoken, it won't be here next week, either. Or the week after that.

The first "NoDo" update for Windows Phone 7 is now slated for early March, my sources are saying. (Neowin is reporting they're hearing March 8, the same date cited by an individual who asked not to be named with whom I've conversed.)

What's the holdup? Microsoft has been talking up plans to release its first Windows Phone 7 update for weeks. That update is slated to deliver copy-and-paste functionality, Windows Phone Marketplace search improvements and various stability/performance updates, among other features.

Some are blaming the carriers for the delay. Others are pointing fingers at handset makers requiring last-minute changes that require Microsoft to provide new ROMs (which one source said the Redmondians are planning to deliver to partners in mid-February). All this is even more maddening, given I've heard from one of my contacts that Microsoft actually put the finishing touches on NoDo before the end of calendar 2010.

(This "herding many cats" problem is the downside to providing phones provided by multiple carriers and built by multiple suppliers.)

Supposedly, Microsoft is going to come clean at the Mobile World Congress show in Barcelona next week and acknowledge the first Windows Phone 7 update (since the phones began shipping in October 2010) won't hit until March 2011.

I've asked company officials for comment and will update this post with Microsoft's response, if any. Update: "No further information as to timing has been released beyond what we already shared at CES," a company spokesperson said. At CES, CEO Steve Ballmer said there would be a series of updates released for the phone over the "next few months."

Meanwhile, I'm curious if any readers know more about why it's taking the Softies so long to start providing updates for Windows Phone 7. Yes, I know that good things take time. But in the consumer market, the tolerance for updates and new features is far shorter than it is in the business world -- something that Microsoft execs seem to be discounting....

Topics: Operating Systems, Microsoft, Mobility, Software, Windows

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for 30 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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  • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

    Unfortunate, I would really like to see a Windows Phone 7 / Windows OS Tablet combination get out there early and compete .... there are business life / social life integrators that would like to see Microsoft really get in the game to increase competition and improve functionality for users in the mobility market
    HeartStrong07
    • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

      @KACarter07 Sad thing is. Only the people who are totally immersed in the Windows ecosystem (only use Windows, IE, Office, and xbox live) would benefit from using this phone. Firefox users won?t switch to IE just because of a phone. People that don?t regularly use Microsoft Office, will not gain an advantage from this phone. Playstation 3 and Nintendo Wii users most likely won?t want to pay for xbox Live. So where is the benefit? What do the large ugly icons (tiles) offer these people? Limiting the phone to one group is not the best way to market a device.
      Rick_K
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @Rick_K You're implying that you have to use every Microsoft product in order to get something from this phone. I don't have an xBox though I still benefit from the use of Office. People who are love their "gamer score" might love the phone and never touch the Office hub.

        I'm not saying that's enough to necessarily purchase the phone, but you haven't listed any reasons those people would choose another phone either.
        Rich Miles
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @Rick_K .. large ugly icons, firstly they are live and dynamic tiles and not static icons in a grid. The UI is simply better than anything out there, that is if you first try it out.. In terms of ecosystem, Windows IE and Office is the largest out one there
        ninjacut
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @ninjacut<br>"The UI is simply better than anything out there Subjective, at best, why would I want a phone that is constantly transferring data over the network? In order for them to be live and dynamic, the phone would have to constantly be searching for updates from the sources. Do I really need to know that Jimmy just beat the 453 level on dungeons and dragons? Or that Jessy just logged into Microsoft messenger? I think not, but apparently you think its a great thing. I have seen the UI (at an AT&T store) and was not all that impressed with it. To me its like zooming in on a webpage, You can?tt see everything just a portion of it. Again not something I am interested in. So tell me what is so exciting and innovative about this UI? I do not have a MSN account, xbox, and do not work with Office that much (where I would consider editing a document on a tiny phone screen). I also do not like the ribbon interface, as I am fairly adept at using menus, learning a new interface is counter productive, and doesnt cut down on click to do the same action.
        Rick_K
      • Stop the FUD about stuff you have no clue about

        @Rick_K Go do some research before FUD'ing here.

        My wife uses her WP7 with her iMac. She can sync her un-DRM'd music, videos and photos just fine. She uses GMail with no problems at all. She loves mobile IE on the phone as it's much faster than mobile Safari on her old iPhone. She still uses Safari on her Mac even though I tried to get her to use Chrome.

        She plays XBox Live games on her WP7 and the only thing she loses is not sharing her gamer score with the family Xbox. She could if she wanted to, but she can't be bothered as she doesn't play many games on the Xbox apart from Dance Central.

        She didn't even need a computer to start using her new phone. She had it working at the AT&T store before she even left the building. It was happily downloading her e-mail and Facebook contacts before she even got back to the car. She didn't even set up a Windows Live account until a couple of days later.

        See? No other Microsoft products required.

        Oh, and by the way, she loves the Live Tiles on WP7. She can find things much faster than the cluttered "technicolor yawn" icons of the iPhone. There is a reason that most road signs use simple signage in two colors. Your brain can pick out the underlying message and react a lot faster.

        I, on the other hand use my WP7 with my Windows 7 PC and I use the full Microsoft eco system because I like it better plus I can enjoy the best music and e-mail experience (Exchange) out there. Unlimited music downloads for $14.95? Sign me up.
        dazzlingd
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @Rick_K While you don't have to use every Microsoft product in order to get something from this phone. I agree that doesn't mean they don't try and get you to do just that. A pocket knife cuts paper, sure...but scissors do it better. So if I don't have those things Windows phone is just another phone. Plus while calling them large ugly tiles is subjective. I agree the idea of dynamic tiles are only good for "status checking". I find when I really try and use the capabilities of the phone fully it's a novice and limiting concept that like Android widgets consumes battery life I don't need to expend and that unlike widgets, can't be changed.
        Socratesfoot
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @Rick_K GMail and Google Calendar work exactly like Windows Live and Exchange accounts. WP7 syncs with OSX and has 3rd party applications. Most games aren't Xbox Live enabled and Xbox Live is free on WP7 anyway. No need to switch to Windows PC, IE, MS Office and Xbox 360. Like I didn't switch from Windows and Firefox to OSX, Safari, Linux or Chrome because of my iPad and Galaxy S. I use open and closed source products from Google, Apple, MS and other origins. WP7 has a smooth UX that let?s me do so much more than just edit my OpenOffice docs on the go. And most of the time in less time.
        Forrestall
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @dazzlingd speaking of research, how about you take some of your own advice?
        "My wife uses her WP7 with her iMac. She can sync her un-DRM'd music, videos and photos just fine."
        Where does she sync her apps bought from the Zune market? Certainly not on an iMac (unless it?s running Windows xp SP3 or later) So Windows is required.

        "She didn't even need a computer to start using her new phone. She had it working at the AT&T store before she even left the building."
        Secondly you can get an iPhone activated at the apple store, so that make your point moot.

        "Oh, and by the way, she loves the Live Tiles on WP7. She can find things much faster than the cluttered "technicolor yawn" icons of the iPhone.?
        So she?s more comfortable with the "Monochromatic yawn" of windows phone 7 series? Better buy the unlimited data plan, or you might be in for a big surprise come billing time.

        "I, on the other hand use my WP7 with my Windows 7 PC and I use the full Microsoft eco system because I like it better plus I can enjoy the best music and e-mail experience (Exchange) out there. Unlimited music downloads for $14.95? Sign me up.?
        Subjective, first off you sound like a diehard windows Zealot. Best email? Only in your opinion. Unlimited music downloads? How many do you get to keep? THere is no subscription that let? you download 100+ songs a month and keep them, for $14.95.

        It is really easy to dispel the Microsoft?s Zealots claims if one only looks at the facts.
        Rick_K
      • I did my research, unlike you

        @Rick_K
        Dude, we own WP7s, Macs and PCs. You don't.

        Sure, you can sync the apps with Zune software on a PC, but unlike our old iPhones, we haven't had to restore the phones at all.

        You still need a computer to use an iPhone or activate it whether it's yours or Apple's. You don't with WP7. Last year when we were abroad my iPhone crashed and required connection to iTunes. That was really painful to get it working again, and even when we got the phone reactivated, it had nothing in it, even the contacts were gone. MobileMe could have prevented that but it's $99 plus the cost of data roaming to restore the phone.

        If you don't like monochromatic tiles then that's your choice, but we prefer them. Data usage is the same as notifications on an iPhone. Negligible.

        And WP7, in my opinion, has the best e-mail experience. It definitely syncs calendars to Exchange way better than iPhone. But you forget, I have used them both extensively. You spent 2 mins in the AT&T store looking at monochromatic icons and obviously never used the phone.

        So I'm a Microsoft Zealot? No, we own Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, HP, Canon, Nikon, Samsung and HTC products too. We like things and hate things about all of them.

        We buy the best products for us, not just what Steve Jobs pushes down our throats.
        dazzlingd
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @Rick_K

        You are implying there are people who don't regularly use MS office. I never met one.
        x I'm tc
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @Rick_K Most of your complaints are just a matter of preference, not product inferiority. I'm patiently waiting for a WP7 on SPRINT to replace my Touch Pro (Win 6.1) that has served me well with no issues for two years. I abhore the propietary control on my life that comes with iTunes and Apple in general so will always support any competitive product. I'd even consider an EVO 4G right now but for one thing - no Netflix streaming on Android due to unresolved piracy issues. Not an issue on WP7. And, like most in business or goverment employment (I consult to both), OFFICE and Outlook are a part of life and the mobile versions are critical to daily work. If the world of Windows is not a big part of your life, the attraction of a WP7 is maybe more elusive. Even without the MS sphere of product connections, I still like the dynamic tile design and other WP7 features. That is just MY preference so not something you can simply refute.
        spyder3010
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @Rick_K Here's the thing. I am an XBOX live user, love OneNote, use Windows Live Meeting and am very familiar with Microsoft Office products but I am moving to Google Apps because Microsoft can't seem to give me competitive, timely and integrated products that truly let me integrate my work and social while while I travel. I should be their target demographic - there are lots of us out there.
        HeartStrong07
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @dazzlingd - Dude you are so misinformed that you're making yourself look foolish.

        NO, Windows is not required. Purchasing and syncing of apps is done via Zune Marketplace over the air, via a wifi connection or via Windows.

        "Monochromatic yawn" of windows phone 7 series?" Do you really believe thats not subjective as well?

        This is a Flat Out Lie: "Better buy the unlimited data plan, or you might be in for a big surprise come billing time."

        "Subjective, first off you sound like a diehard windows Zealot." Childish and stupid!

        "Unlimited music downloads? How many do you get to keep?" Let me educate you I speak from five years experience with the service.

        The Zune Pass offers TRUE UNLIMITED music downloads (as much as you want) for $14.99 per month. In addition, you get to keep 10 DRM Free tracks EACH month. And to top it all off there are NO 30 second previews for tracks offered on Zune Pass.

        Seems to me you are the zealot trying to spread as much misinformation about Zune, WP7 and any other Microsoft product that you can. Care you explain your embarrassing lack not knowledge?
        NPGMBR
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @Rick_K Very true. It's very ms ecosystem oriented. Even more ecosystem oriented than the iPhone.
        Jimster480
  • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

    they might wanna wait till they announce nokia-microsoft partnership... and gain media attention. then after like two weeks, they might wanna announce updates. people will take wp7 seriously after the nokia deal (if that happens, of course)
    gunn13
    • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

      @gunn13 <br><br>It just DID happen!

      http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nokia-and-microsoft-announce-windows-phone-partnership/11367?tag=mantle_skin;content

      Maybe that's why they were stalling on the update? ;-)
      ihodgetts
  • I no longer care

    Once upon a time not so long ago, I couldn't wait to get a WP7 device. However, over the past few months I've come to realize that Microsoft isn't to go to company for consumer products. So 2011 is the year I move from Windows 7 to Mac OS X Lion in July, iPad 2 in April, and from Android to iPhone 5 in July as well.

    Steve Ballmer is asleep at the wheel and no matter how many senior management reshuffles he does, he is the problem. Microsoft's decision not to release a Windows Compact Embedded 7 tablet was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Goodbye Microsoft. It's been a great couple of decades, however, you're no longer what you once were. It took a full decade for us to truly feel the impact of Bill Gates departure. It's sad to think of the many amazing technologies created by Microsoft R&D that we'll never get our hands on. Well at least Apple delivers.
    General C#
    • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

      @General C# The slow pace is killing me too. I was even prepared to give up GMAIL and move to LIVE, but this slow pace is draining. And why of why do they not have a background MSN client written "in house"!!! Its their protocol, they have Devs to burn, yet they outsourced it to MIYOWA (what the heck!) Seriously, I've gone back to using my work blackberry for social media apps as the Windows 7 Phone just doesn't cut it. I like my phone, but unless they seriously add features VERY soon, I'll switch back to iPhone or Android on my next refresh. I think you are right, too many product managers and marketing droids getting in the way of coders making the consumer what they need. I live in hope, but my optimism is slowly fading as the months roll by. And I also agree, the TILES are too big. Fit all the pertinent info one the front screen. They can be glib about "glance and go", but you have to press a button then swipe to see info at the bottom. On a blackberry, all your alerts/notifications are on the top bar.
      hwangeruk@...
      • RE: Microsoft 'NoDo' Windows Phone 7 update to be a no-show until early March

        @hwangeruk@... LOL your a fool thinking going back to blackberry those phone sucks!
        ipadsucks