Microsoft Office for iPad: Separating fact from fiction

By | February 21, 2012, 6:08am PST

Summary: If the Daily.com is right, Microsoft’s Office for iPad could be launching well ahead of Office for Windows 8 on ARM tablets.

The Daily.com — the folks that brought us last year’s rumor that Microsoft planned to deliver Office for the iPad in 2012 — is back with an update.

On February 21, The Daily folks said that they had gotten a brief hands-on with Office on iPad. They also said they expected Office for iPad to be sent to Apple for approval “soon.” The Daily’s Matt Hickey is guessing that the release could be “in the coming weeks.”

Update: A Microsoft spokesperson said the screen shot accompanying The Daily’s story is not a picture of a real Microsoft software product. But the spokesperson also said Microsoft is declining to comment as to whether or not the company has developed a version of Office for the iPad and/or when such a product may come to market. I’ve asked Daily Editor Peter Ha and Matt Hickey, the author of The Daily’s piece, for a response (via Twitter). No word back so far from either.

Update No. 2: The Daily’s Ha denied the image was fabricated by the publication. Not only that — Ha says it was a Softie who demo’d the Office on iPad app to them. Here’s Ha’s tweet to me:

I’ve asked Microsoft for another comment. Maybe the Softies could claim it wasn’t an image of a real product because this was a concept/demo app? (That’s the theory put forth by @thefakedes on Twitter.)

Update No. 3: The Microsoft spokesperson said the company has nothing more to say beyond their previous comment. Meanwhile, Ha is hinting that Microsoft isn’t going to like whatever follow-up is coming next. So now we’re in total he said/she said territory….

Now, back to our original story:

What I found interesting in today’s report is that The Daily’s description of Office for iPad sounds a lot like Office 15 for WOA. The coming “suite” will consist of four apps — Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote — and have a Metro-ish look and feel. (OneNote is the only Office app Microsoft currently offers for the iPad.)

Microsoft officials recently said that Windows 8 on ARM (WOA) tablets and PCs would “include” these four Office 15 apps. It’s unclear what “include” means here, and Microsoft officials aren’t saying if these apps will be free, preinstalled, integrated into the OS or made available in some other ways.

(Microsoft officials have not said when they plan to launch Office 15, but my contacts have said that it is on track to be released to manufacturing before the end of this calendar year. We also don’t know whether Microsoft might launch a “tablet” SKU of Office ahead of the rest of the suite in order to get it out there for Windows 8 on ARM — and possibly iPad — tablets.)

Last week, Nomura Research analyst and long-time Microsoft watcher Rick Sherlund said he was highly doubtful Microsoft would do Office for iPad because the Windows team would block it. Indeed, many see Office as one of the few competitive advantages that Microsoft has with the coming Windows 8 slates and tablets.

But Microsoft management doesn’t see things with Windows-colored glasses only any more. The Microsoft Business Division — home to Office — makes more money than Windows client does. And that unit has been dabbling with porting Office apps to non-Microsoft platforms for a while now.

Just last week, when asked whether Microsoft might do Office for iPad, Microsoft Chief Financial Officer Peter Klein said “Microsoft believes it has a ‘great tablet experience with Office’” — and didn’t specify which kinds of tablets he meant.

One of my Twitter buds, Adrian Clark, had an interesting observation about the supposed leaked screen shot of Office on the iPad. The first icon looks like Microsoft’s Remote Desktop icon. What if Microsoft’s “Office for tablets” SKU is actually like the OnLive Desktop app and is simply these four Office apps running remotely (with some kind of “native” client code downloadable to the individual tablet devices)? Just a pure and total guess, but interesting, nonetheless….

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Office not on Windows...
aiellenon 10th Mar
Not sure what rock some of you have been hiding under for the last decade, but Office has been on Mac OS for an entire decade now. Normally launching 1-2 years after the Windows version and including several features not found on PCs. It is one of the reasons a lot of businesses allow Macs as the number 1 work program in the world is available for them. (Personally I think MS should never make apps for any other OS, it just allows people to leave Windows and still eat their cake.)
It doesn't sound like Office for WoA. It sounds more like Office for Windows Phone 7. "Metro'ish UI" = Office Mobile. MS had said that Office will be full fledged and run under the Windows 8 desktop, even on ARM. That's not a Metro UI.
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Mary Jo Foley 21st Feb
Hi. I'm using "Metro-ish" here to distinguish this from "Metro-Style." Metro Style, in Microsoft's confusing parlance, really means a WinRT app. We now know from MS that Office 15 apps on WOA are NOT going to be Metro-Style. They are desktop apps. So they can use some of the Metro design elements, but they aren't true Metro-Style.

Microsoft's insistence on calling everything "Metro" is creating a lot of confusion, in my and others' opinions... Thanks. MJ
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I still have my money
LiquidLearner 21st Feb
@Mary Jo Foley

On Office for iPad being similar to Office on Windows Phone. They could sell it cheap, $10-20, and it's still more functional the Docs to Go and QuickOffice. Especially if they maintain the SharePoint support. That would allow them to make money off the iDevice market while offering a tablet with a superior Office experience bundled. It seems like a smart play to me.

I could be wrong but I'd be willing to bet.
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P. Douglas Updated - 21st Feb
@Mary Jo Foley,

... the Daily article is correct. I think a scenario in which MS develops a light, Metro (WinRT) version of Office, which becomes included in WOA devices, is very plausible. Also, distributing a Metro styled, light, iPad version of Office on the iPad, would makes sense. (Users of Windows 8 devices, including WOAs, would then have the option of purchasing the full version of (Win32) Office if they want to.) In the above scenario, MS gets to defend Office against low cost competitors on the iPad and Windows 8, while also preserving the value of the full Office suite. Another very important point: developers of the Metro design language (working with Office developers / designers) get to work out ways rich apps can be designed / styled - which is very important for the development of rich apps. I'm very much inclined to believe the above scenario will unfold.
@Mary Jo Foley

Calling it Metro-style or Metro-like makes it sound like it's not really the official Metro UI found on WP7, just designed in the same style to look like it is. Technically that may be correct, but its a naming disaster that will confuse people. Metro on their phones, Metro-style on tablets and PCs. Just label it all Metro!
@Mary Jo Foley: Office on iPad would take away a USP from Windows 8 though, especially WOA.
@Mary Jo Foley
If I were to create a "Metro-ish" app and submit it, Microsoft would most likely deny the app into their market because it's not in full conformation to the guidelines. I guess there are perks to owning the platform.
@Mary Jo Foley With Office 365 available to anyone with an internet connection I don't see why Office would be difficult to deliver to any OS or device. Could Office for iOS be a variation of Office 365, with local storage options for documents?
Microsoft needs to be careful not to create a "Good Enough" scenario. If Office on iPad is good enough it could be a big blow to Windows 8. People are already finding ways to use the iPad in place of a PC. Will Office really loose money if they stayed exclusive to Windows for another year?
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rbethell Updated - 21st Feb
@rwalrond A good company knows when to let one product lose its dependencies on another. The Office franchise may be more valuable to Microsoft then Windows (and with Azure taking off, that may be true at both client and server level.)

If so, they are well served to go where the users are.
@rbethell I will concede that Microsoft knows more about their products than I do. But, it doesn't seem to me that the current version of Office is under the same kind of fire as Windows. I'm thinking Windows needs to lean on its Office siblings for some extra support through this transition over to Metro.
@rbethell

" The Office franchise may be more valuable to Microsoft then Windows"

I'll correct that;

The Office franchise is more valuable to Microsoft then Windows. It's the biggest, although not the only reason, that keeps users on Windows. The business division has the slight upper hand here and should go where the users and ultimately the money is, be it iOS, Android, or Windows.
@rwalrond
Word has already fallen into the good enough category, don't now anyone on any modern version of Word that does not think it is VERY hard to use and un-reliable. A re-write of word would be MSFT best present to the industry.
@kpbpsw,
"don't now anyone on any modern version of Word that does not think it is VERY hard to use and un-reliable."
How is it hard to use? What do you mean by un-reliable?
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I am a technical writer and have been using Word since the early 1990s.

For several versions, styles with bullets/numbering would just suddenly change indent (not helped by having two mechanisms that battle for what wins), and page numbers in contents would just all become 0 for a time.

With later versions, I find in Word that a document will crash and have to be recovered. I wonder if Word can do such a good job of recovering, why can't MS prevent it from needing to?

And the whole separate application thing. Why can't every table in Word have the functionality of an Excel spreadsheet, and presentation be a view of selected elements? There does not really have to be separate programs. As a designer of Office-based solutions, I wish I could make formulae referencing any named element, including bookmarks, cell-ranges, or whatever. And OLE is a joke, as it tends to be unstable and inplace editing is awkward.

It would be good to be able to lock down Word, but in a simpler way than having to go the whole schema setup, which most businesses just do not have the expertise nor the culture to use. Word requires that any user must know what Word functionality has been used otherwise they are sure to break it. Word must be one of the most hostile environments to program into(worse than Javascript in web pages) because it is extremely hard to stop users stuffing it up. One element from Framemaker I did like is the ability to set a document up for different user skill levels, so that they couldn't break certain aspects of the structure, but it was still easy for them to use, and easy to set up for them.

It is relatively easy to lock down Excel, which is why many use it for forms, but the more complex they are, the fiddlier it becomes to edit the structure.

PowerPoint is no more than a fancy slideshow and must be the most overpriced application for what it actually does.

For the moment, Office is the only truly enterprise capable office suite, as it can be used to build applications in blocks that would otherwise require months and a full project setup to do in any other programming setup. And everyone has the IDE.
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@bmonsterman
I am a technical writer and have been using Word since the early 1990s.

For several versions, styles with bullets/numbering would just suddenly change indent (not helped by having two mechanisms that battle for what wins), and page numbers in contents would just all become 0 for a time.

With later versions, I find in Word that a document will crash and have to be recovered. I wonder if Word can do such a good job of recovering, why can't MS prevent it from needing to?

And the whole separate application thing. Why can't every table in Word have the functionality of an Excel spreadsheet, and presentation be a view of selected elements? There does not really have to be separate programs. As a designer of Office-based solutions, I wish I could make formulae referencing any named element, including bookmarks, cell-ranges, or whatever. And OLE is a joke, as it tends to be unstable and inplace editing is awkward.

It would be good to be able to lock down Word, but in a simpler way than having to go the whole schema setup, which most businesses just do not have the expertise nor the culture to use. Word requires that any user must know what Word functionality has been used otherwise they are sure to break it. Word must be one of the most hostile environments to program into(worse than Javascript in web pages) because it is extremely hard to stop users stuffing it up. One element from Framemaker I did like is the ability to set a document up for different user skill levels, so that they couldn't break certain aspects of the structure, but it was still easy for them to use, and easy to set up for them.

It is relatively easy to lock down Excel, which is why many use it for forms, but the more complex they are, the fiddlier it becomes to edit the structure.

PowerPoint is no more than a fancy slideshow and must be the most overpriced application for what it actually does.

For the moment, Office is the only truly enterprise capable office suite, as it can be used to build applications in blocks that would otherwise require months and a full project setup to do in any other programming setup. And everyone has the IDE.
@Patanjali,
OLE is a joke, and you should refrain from using it in your documents. It's probably the cause of 90% of your crashes. If you need to embed content from one document into another, I would either translate the information in word content, or use an image.

"Why can't every table in Word have the functionality of an Excel spreadsheet, and presentation be a view of selected elements?"

Excel is excel, Word is word. When an application tries to be everything to everyone, chaos and instability reins.

"Word must be one of the most hostile environments to program into(worse than Javascript in web pages) because it is extremely hard to stop users stuffing it up. One element from Framemaker I did like is the ability to set a document up for different user skill levels, so that they couldn't break certain aspects of the structure, but it was still easy for them to use, and easy to set up for them."

When you start making a document into an application, you have to be aware of the risks. Let's be honest, technical writers are not programmers. Complex macros don't go through the rigorous testing that normal software does. Buyer beware!
@Patanjali

There are definitely some annoying formatting bugs I've come across in Word, but the only crashes I have come across of the type you describe involve HP printer drivers - every time.
@rwalrond
For the foreseeable future has nothing to worry about Apple taking over Windows. However It might be helpful to MS to create such. Apple is financially worth 2-3 times more than Microsoft now.
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Office not on Windows...
aiellenon 10th Mar
Not sure what rock some of you have been hiding under for the last decade, but Office has been on Mac OS for an entire decade now. Normally launching 1-2 years after the Windows version and including several features not found on PCs. It is one of the reasons a lot of businesses allow Macs as the number 1 work program in the world is available for them. (Personally I think MS should never make apps for any other OS, it just allows people to leave Windows and still eat their cake.)
Microsoft will probably release a version of Office for iPad and Android but they will be stripped down versions. Ex: They already released OneNote for both and they are not as feature rich as their big brother.
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Dem Google Apps
Robert Hahn 21st Feb
@Djblois
The usual "sources close to the matter" say that there is no version planned for Android. I suppose that could change if anybody ever learns how to sell an Android tablet in numbers that matter.
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Patanjali 21st Feb
@Robert Hahn
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Robert Hahn 21st Feb
The really successful big companies do not allow one division to hold another division back in order to protect an existing franchise. I'm sure IBM's mainframers were 100% against releasing the PC, but if you let that attitude prevail, you end up where DEC and Prime did. IBM is still here; the other guys aren't.

When AMD extended the x86 to 64 bits, the Itanium crew at Intel undoubtedly resisted Intel releasing their skunkworks 64 bit x86. But Intel's top management decided to let the customers decide. Good decision.

Same here. If somebody buys an iPad, you may as well let the Office guys take their money. With all the Office lookalikes (including things like Citrix) on iPad, the strength of the Office magnetic field pulling people into Win 8 tablets is not going to be all that strong anyway. Besides, it's better to tell the Windows 8 team that they're going to have to beat the iPad on the merits. That way they know there will be no lazy shortcuts.
@Robert Hahn

Agreed. It's counterproductive to take the approach of "well, if they bought an iPad we're not viewing them as a potential customer simply out of spite, revenue be damned".

And, I'm guessing with Windows 8 on tablets, there will be enough other enterprise integration features that can serve as a differentiator that Microsoft doesn't need to invent one by not offering Office.
@Robert Hahn,
I agree with what you are saying in principal. However, IBM is still around because they have dominated the mainframe market for 40 years. The mainframe market declined steadily from around 1990 to 2000, then stabilized as the IBM mainframe was reinvented as a host for Linux. That cash cow has funded wide variety of other business ventures for IBM.
I think it's more likely that they've included the ability to Remote Desktop to other computers than be streaming the application OnLive style.
@Sheepsteak Onlive, while being nice, is totally useless. They seem to have got storage and document movement within the device all wrong.
This fits into the multi-platform service strategy that Peter Klein spoke about recently. If any service is going to be viable it *needs* to be available on as many devices as possible.

That said, i doubt this will be as fully functional as the native apps on WOA. This is more likely a 'hybrid' application written using HTML/JS running under iOS's UIWebView. I think we'll see this same strategy on Android too. The code is probably very similar to the hosted WebApps.
http://memeburn.com/2011/12/why-you-should-be-considering-hybrid-mobile-apps/

It will also probably be used as bait for other MS services, like SkyDrive and Office 365. This is where the future revenue battle lies.

The strategy is interesting. These 'hybrid apps' have the potential of running much faster with more native functionality on Windows 8 becuase WinRT supports HTML/JavaScript as a first class citizen. But, you can see some frustration from the IE team about Apple's policy for optimizing JavaScript with embedded HTML applications on IOS here - maybe as feedback from the Office team? http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2012/02/07/high-performance-html5-content-in-metro-style-apps.aspx
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matthew_maurice 21st Feb
@joeyw72 "i doubt this will be as fully functional as the native apps on WOA. This is more likely a 'hybrid' application written using HTML/JS running under iOS's UIWebView." The MS Mac BU has some pretty damn good Objective C programmers. I've suspected they've had iOS versions of Office for a while, and they have just waiting for a politically correct moment to get them out. If I'm right, those guys have had a long time to work on iOS Office, and it would be unfair to assume they haven't been able to pack a lot of punch in to the small foot-print of an iPad app. I wouldn't be surprised if many people are surprised by the result.
It should be a lot like Microsoft Office for WOA. Its most likely the same code base, change up the cosmetics a bit. They created an Office for Mac so its not surprising they would create one for iPad. Most people will wait for the WOA tablets to come out and get office for it though, that way they have a unified experience.
...which is so Windows-biased it works like crap on an iPad. I couldn't even render an email sent to me by the "MS Hotmail Team". A different browser was demanded.
@fjpoblam Actually, there's a huge difference between windows live mail, which is an application, and the cloud based hotmail. Windows Live mail sucks, imho, but hotmail just keeps getting better. Now, I haven't tried hotmail on an ipad so you have a better grasp on that than I do. I wonder if the 100s of thousands of others who use hotmail on their ipad feel the same as you? Again, I don't/won't own an ipad so I can't speak for its usefullness.
It would be smart for them to do so. Office won't be a factor for the majority of consumers purchasing tablets like the iPad, and smart phones. So keeping it tied to "Windows" won't help them or their partners much in this space. So to avoid become another RIM (BBM) they must support the market leading device now. Or lose your customer base for good in this important "post-pc" market.

RIM's new CEO said he will be open to licensing BBM (if it makes sense). But it may be too late, consumers are already using alternatives to BBM.
To believe that Microsoft would allow Office to appear on iOS before WOA. You would have to believe that they and their OEMs could produce a homerun (in terms of price, battery life, design, and apps) with WOA devices on their first attempt. Office and SharePoint integration is the trump card but that's just a guess.
@windowseat

"Office and SharePoint integration is the trump card but that's just a guess."

This I agree with.
so the point of this is one less reason to buy windows and send 30% of the revenue office makes to apple? seems stupid.
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Robert Hahn 21st Feb
@neonspark
Let's see, Apple is selling 15 million iPads per quarter, that's 60 million per year, times twenty-five bucks for us, minus 30% for apple, is a billion dollars in revenue, minus zero for manufacturing cost, is a billion dollars in profit. Or maybe just a half-billion if only half the iPad buyers buy Office.

Tell us again why this stupid.
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matthew_maurice 21st Feb
@Robert Hahn But I think you've captured the essence of the situation.
@Robert Hahn
It is stupid because they would give 30 % of those revenues to Apple and strengthen the iPad over the competition, including WIndows 8 based tablets, especially in enterprises.
And even if it even does do a bit over 1 billion of revenues for Microsot, it will bring 450 millions of dollars of additionnal revenues to Apple , assuming all iPad users bought Office. This means that Apple would earn close to 45 % of what Microsoft earn on each licence of Office for the IPad. That is almost insane.
If Microsoft is ready to give that much money to another company, then i suggest them to rather find a way to share some of their profits, let guess from Windows store for example, with OEM on a market share basis, to motivate them and stimulate them to build more appealing and sophisticated products.
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matthew_maurice 22nd Feb
@timiteh First, Microsoft already gets less than 70% of retail sale price on non-OEM software, so Apple's 30% take is worth it considering the exposure it brings. Second, the iPad is out of Microsoft's sights. Period. That ship has sailed. Microsoft looked stupid with their approach to iPhone (e.g. Ballmer laughing at it, WP7 group throwing a funeral for it), Office for iPad shows they've decided to look smart for a change and embrace a winner rather than ridicule it's while it succeeds. This is because they realize who their real threat is, Android tablets. Third, MS doesn't care if Apple gets another $450 million, but they do care about Google stealing a lot more Office customers if a decent Android tablet catches on in the Enterprise. Office for iPad keeps iPad productivity users on Microsoft software, even if it's not the OS too. Finally, I think MS has grown a bit disillusioned with their non-Nokia OEMs. Think about it, they really haven't done MS any favors. None of them have turned out a device that can get anywhere near Apple's sex appeal. And most of them make tons Android phones. Yes, MS has slapped them down and started collecting license fees, but think about what that means-MS is charging their own OEMs for using other OSes on their devices.

I think Office for iPad is a pragmatic call by MS, and as a result one of the smartest things they've done lately. Unfortunately, the lame way they've handled the leak shows that Microsoft still needs to "grow a pair."
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It ain't gonna happen...
omdguy 21st Feb
1. This would require MS to maintain another code base for Office for the iPad, which is a HUGE engineering cost to both maintain and service.

2. There is no way they are giving 30% to Apple

3. There is an easier alternative for iPad owners who need Office capability (Office 365)

They have yet to deliver WOA and the Office apps required for that, so even considering this would be merely a distraction and my guess is that they would rather give their own platform an advantage when it ships (Win8).
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matthew_maurice Updated - 21st Feb
@omdguy I think you're missing some facts.

1. The Mac BU already maintains separate code bases of Office for the Mac. Plus, they're pretty good Objective-C coders. so the engineering cost is probably minimal. I've felt that Office for iOS has been around for years just waiting for the planets to align.

2. They'd be stupid not to if there are 40-50 million iPads floating around. MS spends way more than 30% of retail on marketing and distributing Office now. Granted the OEM versions have much less overhead, but they also generate less revenue per license.

3. Easier != better. Plus, a lot of times a user may not have internet access (e.g. on planes, WiFi-only models away from hotspots), so a stand-alone app has serious advantages, especially at $10-$20.

So I'm betting we see Office for iOS rather soon, and when we do I predict that Office is in the top 3 paid apps within 24 hours of release (or the separate apps will be 3 of the top 5).
@matthew_maurice

".....I predict that Office is in the top 3 paid apps within 24 hours of release (or the separate apps will be 3 of the top 5)."

This would be a safe prediction to go with.
@omdguy I imagine they'd prefer that people use Windows 8/WOA, but they're not about to leave money on the table when the iPad is incredibly popular. If they think they can secure significant revenue by making this for the iPad, they would almost certainly make it, because they're in the business to make money over everything else, and if Office for the iPad is the means to that end, then so be it.
@omdguy
I agree there is now way Microsoft shuld be giving 30 % of their revenues on office licence to Apple as it represents almost 45 % of what Microsoft itself would be earning.
As i said, in a post earlier, it would be much better and much more productive to share a bit of their profits with PC OEM to help them increase their profitability and to encourage them to build better devices.
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matthew_maurice 22nd Feb
@timiteh At least not at the moment. Google is now Microsoft's Netscape, but this time "Netscape" is winning. So Microsoft, having noticed that Apple seems to have a grudge against Google too, is content to turn it's full attention on Mountain View. They probably think that they conquered Cupertino once, and once Goggle is gone they can do it again.
Another chance

Microsoft is doing Office for iPad, but the picture is a fake

Microsoft is developing lot of software for iPad. Why not Office?
I don't know if it's a good or bad move they are leaving out Outlook. I guess by keeping Outlook 'Windows' only they keep the business sector on Office.
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matthew_maurice 22nd Feb
@dtdono0 Has there even been a non-Windows MAPI client (that worked even remotely well)?

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