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Microsoft refreshes beta of its Google Docs competitor

By | February 29, 2008, 8:21am PST

Microsoft has quietly released an update to its Office Live Workspace service, which the company first rolled out in beta form in December 2007.

The just-released Office Live Workspace update, according to a posting on LiveSide.Net,includes a new activity pane for keeping track of what’s happening in your wokspace; e-mail notifications so you know when those with whom you are sharing documents make an update; support for adding multiploe documents to workspaces; and a new interface to make it easier to invite new people to participate in a shared workspace.

A quick refresher on what Office Live Workspace is (and isn’t). Office Live Workspace is Microsoft’s alternative to Google Docs. It is not a Web-based version of Microsoft Office. It is meant, first and foremost, to be a complement to Microsoft Office. As Microsoft officials have said, Office Live Workspace service can be used from a PC, kiosk or other Web-access point without Office (or another desktop productivity suite) installed; all you technically need is an Internet Explorer or Firefox browser.

The beta of the service included a rudimentary online word processor called Web Notes; a “spreadsheet” that (at least so far) doesn’t do calculations called Web Lists; and the ability to access, view and comment on documents — both your own and those created by others who grant permission.

There’s still no word on when Microsoft is expecting to expand the Office Live Workspace beta and/or finally remove the “beta” tag from the service.

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RE: Microsoft refreshes beta of its Google Docs competitor
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why is this a competitor to google Docs
msanda_77@... 29th Feb 2008
The lsat time i checked and even form your statement office live workspace is
basically an online storage center where users can view and track changes to a
document created in office. so how does this all of a sudden become a competitor
to google docs. office live workspace is more or less an online version of Groove,
You can't edit documents online and even Microsoft has said it's taken a different
approach to google docs where thsi is tied to it's software. google docs is more of a
complete package. maybe if you want to look at an alternative take a look at zoho
writer.zoho writer is by far way more advance than anything online right now. I
think you editors need to be more honest with your headlines and your comparison, stop thinking about driving target to your stories it just plain makes
your stories look like amateur reporters. and you aren't
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competitor to google docs
Mary Jo Foley 29th Feb 2008
Hi. This is Microsoft's retort to Google Docs. It is a different approach, I agree. But this is what they are doing in that space. You may not like Microsoft's approach, but this is it.

I didn't use "Office Live Workspace" in the headline because so few people understand Microsoft's convoluted branding around Live. I didn't do it to get more clicks.

And thanks for the back-handed complement! I am glad you don't think I'm an "amateur reporter."
alternative to Google Docs. They CAN and SHOULD make this better than Google Docs, BUT, because of infighting, or avoiding the cannibalization of Office revenues, they are forced to cripple it.

Is that the best way to compete with Google for the long run???

And, as Mary states, MS names are so convoluted, that she can not put it in the headline because nobody knows what it is. She puts "Google Docs Competitor", and we are instantly on the same page. Worked for me!!!
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Google docs is for Kjiddies
No_Ax_to_Grind 1st Mar 2008
Sure, if youur needs or minimal and you don't mind waiting till Google kick starts their servers daily, use it.
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OLW as a Google Docs competitor??
jamiet 29th Feb 2008
In the sense that Google Docs is an online word processor then Office Live Workspaces (OLW) isn't a competitor.
In the sense that its a way to collaborate online then it is very much a Google Docs competitor. (N.B. You can't edit documents onlie using OLW but you CAN view them).

When I first heard about OLW I figured it was a slightly richer version of Skydrive and, like most, I was utterly underwhelmed. As it turns out its a lot more than that. Think "Sharepoint for the consumer with a much richer interface" and you're about there. (Apologies to those that have never used Sharepoint)

-Jamie
It is obvious that they created it to blunt Google Docs and give people an alternate way to collaborate with zero effort and investment, but using MS Office. But, they are too worried about cannibalizing MS Office or legitimizing SaaS to make it work totally without purchasing a copy of MS Office.
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jamiet 29th Feb 2008
They would say they are catering to their customers that would prefer a fat offline client (i.e. MS Office).

I wonder which is true happy

More pertinently...I wonder how worried Microsoft are behind closed doors about Google Docs and Zoho etc...

-Jamie
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WHy? No one wants it anyhow
No_Ax_to_Grind 1st Mar 2008
You want to trust word processing to the internet fine, but I suggest you don't get anymore elaborate then writing bad prose no one cares about.
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Shrug...
No_Ax_to_Grind 29th Feb 2008
Can't think of many that care about MS or Google in this.
There are lots of people using Google Docs for collaboration. You can set it up in 5 minutes for ZERO dollars invested, and it does everything you need.
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Everything ou need?
jamiet 29th Feb 2008
"it does everything you need"

That's a matter of opinion happy
exactly like you want it, you could download it and do final formatting with OpenOffice. But, as time goes on, there is less and less need to print. Better to read it online.

By the way, to get around the lack of equations in Google Docs, there is a simple trick. Type up all the equations in an OpenOffice document, then upload it. Google Docs will convert all of the equations to images, which you can then copy and paste into other documents. I am sure that Google will eventually have an equation editor, but, in the meantime, this works rather well.
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It's almost as if you're paid or even work at the Googleplex.

I wouldn't be surprised.
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Compared to some anti-Microsoft people I think donnie is actually fairly reasonable. He has his opinions and he isn't rude when he states them (unlike others). As a pro-Microsoft person myself I have no issue with that.

MS Office is still the numero uno for me. There's plenty of things that it can do (and that I need in my daily job) that simply can't be done in Google Docs because of the very nature of what it is.

Pluses and minuses all over the place....but I do believe that Microsoft have taken a huge huge step forward with OLW. Last week I was editing a document while my fiance 6000 miles away was able to see my edits in real time. In Firefox. On her mac. All through OLW. No-one can tell me that that isn't a huge leap forward.

-Jamie
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DonnieBoy Updated - 2nd Mar 2008
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all the basics, AND, it is free, AND, sharing is automatic. Pretty cool.
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No, kiddeis use it, not business.
No_Ax_to_Grind 1st Mar 2008
No one really cares what the kiddies use.
Office Live Workspace is Microsoft???s attempt to lock you into
lifelong slavery to its way of doing things; Office Live
Workspace is another Microsoft attempt to further its
monopoly; Office Live Workspace is another Microsoft weak
attempt to compete against google; Office Live Workspace is
another Microsoft failure like Xbox, Vista, Zune, WM, Spot, (fill
in the blank here:_______)

Who would possibly want to use ODS (Office Dead Workspace)
when so many better alternatives exist.

Nothing to see here...Just move along.
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Monopoly? Someobdy's an idiot.
quikboy 29th Feb 2008
If anyone locks anyone, look up to Apple.
OLW is an extension it's existing product, is that bad?

And if Xbox, Vista, Zune, WM, Spot, and all other stuff are failures, why do they sell a lot? Why do people keep on buying failures if they're as bad as you make them sound?

And you never reply anyways, so replying to you is a joke.

You're an idiot Jeremy. An idiot who has no sense in what he says.
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You should know about failure
GuidingLight 1st Mar 2008
You see it everytime you look in the mirror.

Xbox, Vista, Zune, WM, look like they are doing just fine.

The only failure I see here is you not getting that job at Microsoft you thought you was a sure thing.

(did you take the test, or did they just point you to the door?)
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Correction:
GuidingLight 1st Mar 2008
should have read you thought was a sure thing.
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MS online junk
CoolbeansG 29th Feb 2008
So basically all you can do is comment, and the Spreadsheet doesn't do any calc's? What a wasn't of time. Write about it again when you can really do something with it.
If you want to collaborate with ss and wp files why not just email them back and forth for free. Otherwise if you want true real time collaboration you might give it at least the power of zoho or google docs. Come on MS give us a really product.
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Headline is backward
No_Ax_to_Grind 1st Mar 2008
Google Docs is the wanna be here.
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