Microsoft signs agreement to contribute to Joomla open-source project

By | April 28, 2010, 8:48am PDT

Microsoft has signed the contributor agreement for Joomla, one of the biggest PHP-based open-source applications.

Josh Holmes, a UX Architect Evangelist with Microsoft, has more about the arrangement on his blog:

“Obviously it means that Microsoft employees can contribute to Joomla!. That’s exciting all by itself as Joomla! is the second largest PHP application in the world. In fact, that’s already happened in conjunction with the signing as Ruslan Yakushev and Don Raman have already contributed code to add WinCache support to Joomla!

Joomla is a content-management system (CMS) and a Model View Controller (MVC) framework that evolved from the Mambo CMS. Joomla is licensed under Version 2 or later of the GNU General Public License (GPL). According to the Joomla site, Joomla’s customers include MTV Networks Quizilla, IHOP, Harvard University and Citibank.

In an April 27 post to the Joomla Community Portal site, the Joomla team noted that some of Microsoft’s code is in the Joomla 1.6 trunk. About half the commentors on the Joomla site were upbeat about Microsoft’s involvement in Joomla, noting that the Redmondians have been sponsoring many PHP events, as of late. But the other half were skeptical of Microsoft’s interest and involvement in open-source in general, and Joomla, in particular.

Microsoft has been working on its own open-source CMS platform, codenamed “Orchard.” Microsoft recently transferred responsibility for Orchard to the CodePlex Foundation, and a handful of Microsoft employees working on Orchard have been assigned full-time to the Foundation for three years. Microsoft also has its own paid CMS platform in SharePoint Server.

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  • MS is trying hard to pull PHP devs.
    But Joomla seems like a misfire. Drupal and Wordpress seem to have become the standards for content management even thought WordPress is a blog. Either way it will be interesting to see if they move PHP devs onto WAMP. I really don't see the benefit when hosting is always going to be more even if by a small margin when theres no technical benefit. And with PaaS devs are starting to care less what the platform is under the service. I think its just a wasted shot...especially if Oracle were to make stronger low end Java hosting where Grails could be easily used. I do believe you'd see a migration to that.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    storm14k
    28th Apr 2010
  • Azure
    Maybe MS is ramping up to serve WAMP stack in
    their cloud. This could gain a lot of corporate
    interest then, as companies that are MS or Unix
    shops don't necessarily want to hire support for
    Linux admins, and Unix/Oracle IT folks don't
    typically want to support MySQL.

    From my vantage point, I think this is a good
    move. And the Joomla contribution gives them
    some free-press and creates some good buzz that
    might lead to more cloud computing contracts.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Spats30
    28th Apr 2010
  • Too Expensive
    Azure is too expensive to compete with a Linux
    VPS. It could easily be 10 times the cost.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    curph
    28th Apr 2010
  • balance of expenses
    I'm thinking more along the lines of
    corporate/institutional users that have the
    funds to use Azure rather that a Linux cloud.
    Face it, certain shops are MS only or blended in
    a way that Linux just doesn't fit in. Believe
    me, that just the bucket my organization falls
    in. While most of us definitely want a LAMP
    stack, we're prevented by the powers that be,
    and concerns of support, SOX compliance, and
    even paranoia over being sued by MS over
    potential use of Linux.

    So yes, I agree with you that the initial
    expense might be more, but in certain
    organizations that expense is dwarfed by IT
    server admin costs, and the simple ability to
    bring new products/services to market faster
    because of the widely available amount of PHP
    apps out there will create more than enough
    value to overcome the expense.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Spats30
    28th Apr 2010
  • Its not just initial cost
    Its not just initial expenses in the cloud. You
    pay a larger cost for Azure every month. The
    server admin costs aren't such a great
    differentiator when you're in the cloud. You're
    not dealing with the hardware just the OS and
    app.

    I would think that if a business is interested
    in Joomla at all then it already has PHP
    experience and quite possibly Linux experience
    as well. Since Joomla only supports MySql if
    you're an MS shop there will be some new admin
    learning regardless.
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    curph
    28th Apr 2010
  • Microsoft will be the only provider to host Azure because paas
    vendors will not pay the licenses. There is no
    need to hire Linux / Unix administrators, the
    paas vendor takes care of that. You just write
    to Joomla, or Drupal, or whatever.
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    DonnieBoy
    28th Apr 2010
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    DonnieBoy
    28th Apr 2010
  • huh?
    What are you talking about? What's the difference? Have you even looked at the pricing for Microsoft's cloud? No real difference between that and any other cloud service, no matter what OS it is on.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    BFD
    29th Apr 2010
  • What will happen to DotNetNuke?
    That was another open source content management in the wild...
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    Roque Mocan
    28th Apr 2010
  • Not so open
    I was looking to use this recently. The source
    code is not open, even though they claim the
    whole project is released under BSD license.
    You have to purchase the Professional (or Elite)
    edition to obtain the source code. If you're an
    individual developer, you'd have to pay the
    rather hefty price tag to obtain the source code
    so you could customize it. See the comparison
    chart:

    http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Products/EditionCompar
    ison/tabid/1250/Default.aspx


    Whereas Joomla you get all the source code,
    making it much more attractive to individual
    developers/designers. You can then customize
    (however slight) without having to pay and arm
    and a leg.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Spats30
    28th Apr 2010
  • Source Code is Freely available
    The source code is freely available. You can download it from our downloads page on DotNetNuke.com without any requirement to purchase a Professional or Elite license (http://downloads.dotnetnuke.com). Just go to the Community Edition page for direct links to the latest version on CodePlex. In addition to tested packages, you can also download source code from our repository on our CodePlex project page.
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    jbrinkman1966
    28th Apr 2010
  • Feeling the competition from Linux, MS understands the need to have a
    complete software stack with OS for one low price. They
    realize the only way they have a chance of competing on big
    projects involving lots of servers is with open source stacks
    running on top of Windows.

    I really do not think they would try to, or would even be able
    to trash the Joomla project. They only have good intentions
    here of making it work good with Windows
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    DonnieBoy
    28th Apr 2010
  • RE: Microsoft signs agreement to contribute to Joomla open-source project
    I think MS is opening their eyes and trying to give back
    to the community, apart from that now they look for our
    feedback way more than before. (e.g. Win7)

    Now the bad kid on the block is a company that starts
    with A - and ends with pple.
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    ivanji
    29th Apr 2010
  • Surely they will pollute it with windows-only "enhancements" against Linux
    Surely they will "embrace and extend" Joomla like they attempted to do with Java (which prompted the Sun Microsystems lawsuit).

    It wouldn?t be surprising then to find that future version of joomla will be optimized to run on Windows, rather than Linux shared hosting.

    F
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    29th Apr 2010
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