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Microsoft to close the till on Microsoft Money

By | June 10, 2009, 1:06pm PDT

Summary: Microsoft officials are acknowledging the company is poised to kill off completely Microsoft Money, the company’s personal finance-management product. The Money software and the services are both being discontinued.

Talk about bad timing. The same day Microsoft issues a press release touting the third annual MSN Money “Customer Service Hall of Shame and Hall of Fame” survey results, Microsoft officials are acknowledging the company is poised to kill off completely Microsoft Money, the company’s personal finance-management product.

News.com has the skinny on the end of Money the product. From a June 10 blog posting:

“The software maker has been notifying financial institutions and plans to announce the move to customers over the next 24 hours via a posting on its Web site and a notification in the software. Although Microsoft will stop selling the product at the end of June, it plans to support it through January 2011.”

Microsoft announced in August 2008 that it would no longer sell Money through retail stores. The company said at that time that plans to release a Money Plus 2009 release were cancelled.

I asked Microsoft for further information on the phase out. Adam Sohn, a Director with Microsoft’s Online Business Services unit, said customers will be able to continue to use Microsoft Money until January 31, 2011 — or “a bit longer if they have bought it recently.” Check your End User License Agreement (EULA), which will hav an end date, which, for some customers, could be as late as June, 2011, Sohn said.

After that date, “the software will still work, but all the online services backing it up will be decommissioned — meaning no automatic flow of account, stock market, tax data, etc.  So people can import that stuff by hand if they want to keep using the product.”

MSN Money, also known as MoneyCentral, is a site that provides Web content to help users manage their personal finances.

“This site will continue on — it will continue to be a resource for customers looking to manage their finances,” Sohn said.

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RE: Microsoft to close the till on Microsoft Money
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Anyone smell a cloud replacement ?
Alan Smithie 10th Jun 2009
nt
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From Microsoft?
Michael Kelly 10th Jun 2009
That would mean non-Windows PCs could use it. I mean it would be great if that happened, but the likeliness of that isn't all that great.
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Well if they....
storm14k 10th Jun 2009
stick Silverlight on it they only allow Mac to use it really. I'm sure they're looking for places to prove Silverlight.
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I've been using Moonlight in Linux
Michael Kelly 10th Jun 2009
It's not up to 2.0 or 3.0 yet, but they are apparently close. And 1.0 works quite well.
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jamiet 10th Jun 2009
I was thinking exactly the same thing!

"Adam Sohn from Microsoft's Online Services Business unit..." ... hmmm
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cloud replacement?
Mary Jo Foley 10th Jun 2009
Hi, That was my initial thought, too: That Microsoft was readying a cloud-based replacement for Money. But they are discontinuing the Money servcies as part of the overall product phase-out, claiming that banks already provide these kinds of things to their cutomers. So I am betting no cloud replacement is in the works on this one... MJ
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Agreed!
samofdetroit 11th Jun 2009
From consumer perspective, there is no more need for MS Money with banks offering most of its services on their web sites. However, from small business perspective, MS will probably be pushing its accounting software instead of Money for Small Business to avoid redundancy.
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Flawed Logic
ParrotHeadFL 11th Jun 2009
Their logic is flawed.

Yes, these services are offered by each individual bank (or investment house or credit card company or whatever). But the point of a product like Money is to pull all of these disparate information resources together into one product.

With Money, I don't have to log in to a bunch of separate sites. I can launch one product, and view information on all of my financial products. I can see what checks have cleared, what new transactions have posted to my credit card, and how my investment portfolio is doing--all from one place.

This is really annoying...
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wrong thread (nt)
Michael Kelly Updated - 10th Jun 2009
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I did not know that was even around
GuidingLight 10th Jun 2009
QuickBooks took care of that.
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My thoughts
CobraA1 10th Jun 2009
For one thing, I'm glad I moved to Quicken.

For another - the software was never really maintained, and had a large gap between the simple budget (too limiting) and the advanced budget (too complex, poor UI).

Not to mention it was rarely, if ever, updated.

The financial advice on the MSN Money is hokey at best, damaging at worst. Frankly, the people who run it are only rich because they're at the top of their corporate ladder or because they took advantage of the good economy in the Clinton / early Bush years before the housing collapse. Not because they knew how to save and invest.
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Give software users a bill of rights!
LittleGuy Updated - 10th Jun 2009
I pay to license software, use it, like it, works for me. Now MS closes it off and I have to try to learn new software that is not same or does not do what I need it to do. Intuit software is crap!

If software companies abandon software users should have rights! From my perspective if software companies do this they should be forced to place the source code in open source so that users can continue to use it and maintain it.

Please give software users a bill of rights!!!
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They HAVE one.
dave.leigh@... 10th Jun 2009
It's called the GPL.

Look into GnuCash if you want to exercise your "software rights"

http://www.gnucash.org/

But please note that the software you bought will not magically stop working in 2011... it is the web services that will shut down. You can continue using MS Money even after that happens. I suppose you should genuflect and praise Ballmer that you still have that option, as a solution "in the cloud" would take even that from you.
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OSS wouldn't help here:
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 10th Jun 2009
Most of the value in these packages is being able to download data from banks and brokerages.

If those services get turned off, then the app becomes a glorified spreadsheet.

Which is what happened here.

You can continue to use Money, but you'll start to see the services disappear once support runs out.
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Ironic - the Sponsored Link on this post is "Try Microsoft Money Today" from money.msn.com.

Whatever I end up switching to myself, I'm not looking forward to having to teach Dad, age 84, a new accounting app (nor is he enthusiastic about having to learn one, I'm sure). I wish there was a good alternative to Quicken.
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Mint....
JoeMama_z 10th Jun 2009
Not sure what he uses Money for, but I've been using Mint for nearly a year. It kicks butt!

www.mint.com
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MS, please don't stop here
nizuse 10th Jun 2009
Kill some other products as well, ok?
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Once Again MS Orphans Its Customers
Harry Palmer 10th Jun 2009
It irritates me a lot when MSC abandons customers who have used their product for a long time. They make a big deal of a new product release. Then they get bored with it and abandon it. And their customers? They can go piss up a rope for all anybody at MSC cares.
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Happens with lots of software
John Zern 10th Jun 2009
or is Microsoft the only company ever to quit producing a software package?
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So...
kozmcrae 10th Jun 2009
The software maker's needs trump the software users needs?

Where would the software maker be if the software users said: "you're just going to dump us in a few years, take a hike"?
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I use it for my check book
ThePrairiePrankster 10th Jun 2009
It will still work fine since I don't bother with the cheesey web services. And if MS disables it, I will build a little check book in an excel file, no need to buy anything else, my needs are quite simple.
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Check book?
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 10th Jun 2009
WHY?

Why on earth do you use a checkbook? I use mine about once every 6 months.
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Interesting.
nizuse 10th Jun 2009
But in Europe hardly anybody uses cheques. And that was as of 1990 or so.
The north-american banking system is so incredibly inefficient...
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I think he means ledger
ericesque 10th Jun 2009
not literally a checkbook, but rather he simply
keeps tabs of his bank account transactions.
This is in contrast to actually using the
services which download transaction information
from your bank or cc company. This is how I use
Quicken as well.

Half the point of keeping track of your
transactions is so you can see if the bank
screws up or if somebody else managed to find a
way to spend your money. If you download all
your data, there's nothing to balance against!
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Don't you track your spending?
ThePrairiePrankster 11th Jun 2009
ATM withdrawals, electronic transfers, not to write checks but to track spending doofus.
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Is there a replacement?
Arun (sreearun) 10th Jun 2009
Does MS have a replacement to Money? I thought it was a good and useful software.
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Office Accounting
mswift@... 11th Jun 2009
They have accounting built into the newest versions of Office called Microsoft Accounting Professional. It is tightly integrated with Office so you can do analysis with Excel, etc. MS is betting big on Office integration. We currently have Excel, Word and .... QuickBooks integrated with our new shop management software called Motive Power. We may add integration to Office Accounting. Right now about 70% of our target market is used to QuickBooks.
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I'm getting quite fond of Moneydance
NonZealot 10th Jun 2009
Java based so it works on all platforms.

Double entry accounting system. If it is good enough for
accountants, it is good enough for me!

The UI isn't even all that terrible.

Count me as a happy MS Money -> Moneydance convert.
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I'd like to thank the Justice Department...
Mike (not Cox) 11th Jun 2009
...For blocking the acquisition of Intuit by Microsoft back in the 1990s. I remembered being scared sh*tless that a good product (Quicken) would be slaughtered through that acquisition.

I've been using Quicken since 1990 and never found anything that came close to it, Money included.
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But they fell off the face of the earth never to be seen again. If I could get this source code in 6 months Quicken would be toast!
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Qucken is better anyway
Randalllind 11th Jun 2009
Thank God Microsoft wasn't allow to buy them.
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Too many "peripheral" products
Userama 11th Jun 2009
Microsoft has their fingers in LOTS of pies, so to speak, so it figures that
when times get tough, they'd shed some of their "non-core" ventures. There
might be more coming. Also, Money probably didn't fit into their long-term
strategy--like the Zune does.
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Oh goody. So now Intuit owns the field. I was recently forced to upgrade to Quicken 2009 and have lost count of the number of minor aggravations in the product. For business, I was forced to upgrade to QuickBooks 2009 when I moved to Vista, only to find that it didn't have all the features of the 2006 version. That means that my old XP laptop, which I would love to sell, is lying around doing nothing but QuickBooks until Intuit gets its act together.
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No love for QB?
mswift@... 11th Jun 2009
Quicken never met the MS programming spec until they were forced to do it to run under Vista. That was a good thing for all the people running QuickBooks commercially. That thing was a pain and a hog. It is still a hog but it keeps to itself now.

I have some customers that use QB and absolutely hate that you can't update the payroll tables yourself and have to pay the annual tribute. If you don't use payroll or any of the on line services you can keep using your old QB as long as you answer the scary message the right way every time. Those QB will not work messages should really say that QB services will not work.
Could this be the first death-rattle? Microsoft has innovated itself into the toilet. I'll bet that by the time they implement that Cloud nonsense, full rigor mortis will be evident.
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RE: Microsoft to close the till on Microsoft Money
donawalt@... Updated - 13th Jun 2009
Actually this article as reported by Mary Jo is somewhat correct. Updates will continue until 2011 OR TWO YEARS from your activation, whichever is SOONER. For many that bought Money Plus when it first came out, their updates will expire later this summer. The most loyal customers are getting the shaft the hardest - after this summer, no more updates of financial info from Financial Institutions! This totally leaves customers in a lurch - in the middle of a tax year, with virtually no notice or alternative.

This is what is wrong with the cloud - it's the "cloud" portion of Money that MS is taking away, which renders the product useless.
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