Microsoft Windows Genuine Advantage system down for the count?

By | August 25, 2007, 2:18pm PDT

ArsTechnica and a few other sites are pointing to Microsoft forums where complaints are pouring in regarding problems that Windows XP and Windows Vista users are encountering when trying to validate their software as “genuine” using Microsoft’s Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) system.

On the Windows Genuine forums, frustrated users are reporting that their non-pirated copies of Windows are being marked as “non-genuine.” They are encountering problems when attempting to download patches, fixes and other software that requires a WGA check before the download is permitted.

So far, the only seemingly official response from Microsoft was relayed by “Doug in Singapore,” who posted the following note in the Forums:

“I’m sorry to inform you that the Windows Genuine server might be down for few days. I have escalate the issue to our Genuine team, kindly try to validate again on Tuesday 28 Aug 2007.

“Thank you for contacting Microsoft Technical Support.”

Update: 5:00 p.m. August 25: It’s possible that Microsoft fixed the issue, based on severalnew posts in the forum. Several posters are reporting that users who go to the main WGA page and click on “validate” are no longer encountering problems. There is currently no notice on the WGA page regarding the outage.

Update No. 2: Via Boingboing.net: There’s a post on the WGA blog noting that there’s at least a temporary fix in place, but no explanation as to the cause of the outage.:

“Customers who received an incorrect validation response can fix their system by revalidating on our site (http://www.microsoft.com/genuine). We encourage anyone who received a validation failure since Friday evening to do this now. After successfully revalidating any affected system should be rebooted to ensure the genuine-only features are restored.”

Users in the forums have been warning others against performing any tasks that require WGA validation. A number of posters are blaming Vista for the problem and are committing to “downgrade” to XP as a result.

In Vista’s case, if WGA deems a user’s copy non-Genuine, Microsoft shuts off certain pieces of Vista functionality, such as the Aero user interface.

Forum poster Arl_in said:

“This is very irresponsible. I was scared to death and ended up formatting my computer… TWICE. What the heck?!? But am I safe to assume that the validation process will work once the server or whatever is wrong is fixed? I really don’t want to waste my $250.And I restarted my computer and no Aero.”

(Note: I am running Windows XP on this system and just tried validating at 5 p.m. EST on August 25 after going to the Microsoft WGA page and clicking “validate.” I had no problem validating my system after doing so.)

I’ve asked Microsoft’s Windows team for an official response. No word back yet. Stay tuned.

Update: Microsoft did fix the WGA outage on August 25.  No word on why it happened or what, if anything, Microsoft is doing so it doesn’t happen again.

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Talkback Most Recent of 78 Talkback(s)

  • The WGA Team Resolved This Issue Quickly!
    To the very, very few that eXPerienced an issue with validating Windows XP or Windows Vista, the problem was resolved in short order. Anyone who did eXPerience an issue should visit http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/default.aspx
    and click on "Validate Windows", then log-off their account and log back on.

    Congratualtions to the WGA Team for troubleshooting and resolving this issue so quickly!
    ZDNet Gravatar
    cnfrisch
    25th Aug 2007
  • HOW DO YOU KNOW?
    How do you know there was only very, very few ?

    Hoow do you know it was resolved in short order?

    M.J. didnt got any answer from MS officials; are you an insider?

    PF
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    theo_durcan
    26th Aug 2007
  • Fooling permanantly WGA is so easy...
    that even people with genuine MS OS should use it. I actually have a lot of software (including Vista and XP) that need activation. But the process to make your system permanantly genuine is easy and widespread so just use and bam, problems solve. MS activation feature is barely legal (as all DRM) and only punish legal users. MS WGA and all other DRM have been proven 100% useless at stopping piracy. Companies spend billions of dollars in illegal DRM scam and ONLY punish legal users. a far better use of this wasted money will be to LOWER the price of illegaly DRMed software/music/movie.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Mectron
    26th Aug 2007
  • So....
    The large software piracy cartel that Microsoft brought down with wga shows that it's useless?? How so? They were doing billions in illegal windows pirating. I would think most people would call that a victory and hardly useless.

    thanks.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    xuniL_z
    26th Aug 2007
  • Please explain
    How the Microsoft police surrounded millions
    of computers scattered throughout the
    country. Truth is, WGA has never stopped a
    single case of Piracy. The incident you
    refer to was simply a publicity stunt to try
    to justify the despised WGA. Toss a few
    scape-goats to the dogs and WOW!... look at
    all that publicity, justifying WGA.

    Microsoft in China: Who Conquered Whom?
    TAKEAWAY: Microsoft had to get rid of its
    American/European business model in order to
    find success in China. The tech giant
    started offering rock-bottom prices for its
    applications, abandoned its staunch stance
    on intellectual property rights, and started
    partnering with the government instead of
    fighting it. But the turning point that
    boosted Microsoft's image in China was when
    Microsoft opened a research center in
    Beijing, which lured back computer
    scientists.
    http://www.itbusinessedge.com/item/?ci=17456
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Ole Man
    26th Aug 2007
  • WOW.
    you know just how piracy cartels are setup. You are on the inside...that's a dangerous game, don't you fear for your life?

    Come on, you know nothing about it or the story. Point me to where this was shown to be a publicity stunt. OR are you pulling that out of the air too?



    So what about China? It's business. They are a developing nation. Every company in the U.S. and E.U. of any size is doing business there.....abiding by China's laws I guess???
    What's wrong with a dev. center in china? YOu have something against the people of China?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    xuniL_z
    26th Aug 2007
  • Yep, pulling it right out of the air
    I can tell by the smell when it's rotten.

    Let's see your credentials for your
    postulation? Same as Microsoft's credentials
    for policing the world, eh? Nix (pun
    intended).

    I have nothing against China. I just don't
    like to see them raped by a monstrous corp,
    any more than the rest of the world. It
    would be different if people knew what was
    being foisted upon them, but most of them
    are poor naive innocent people presenting
    their bones to be picked clean by the
    buzzard robber barons.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Ole Man
    26th Aug 2007
  • ZDNet Gravatar
    msdead
    27th Aug 2007
  • red dead
    Lack of arguments ? Call the messenger Red and bingo. Simple, huh...
    ZDNet Gravatar
    jlvpond@...
    27th Aug 2007
  • ZDNet Gravatar
    Intellihence
    26th Aug 2007
  • No Windows Activation until Tuesday .
    Where did you get you facts from buddy . I read from a reliable source that the server doing the Windows Activation won't be going online until Tuesday . That means no Windows for you until Tuesday . I thought Microsoft's servers were better than Apache servers . ROTFLMAO !!!!!
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Intellihence
    26th Aug 2007
  • try to keep up.
    When reading 0 minute news stories, you kinda have to keep up. I read from a reliable source that OS X is going to run on Intel chips, oh wait.

    Not only that, you've vastly overstated the issue, no windows for who?

    Best get off the floor and wipe your chin.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    rtk
    26th Aug 2007
  • ZDNet Gravatar
    Intellihence
    26th Aug 2007
  • Yes, it appears you believe everything but the facts
    That's all that needs to be said. Thanks for posting links to bogus misinformation which proves you're as gullible as members of the flat earth society.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    cnfrisch
    26th Aug 2007
  • Can you get on the web in reduced function?
    Gee, I'm sorry Windows WGA IS a reduced function.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    msdead
    27th Aug 2007

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