More tech details emerge on Microsoft's 'Midori'

By | July 29, 2008, 11:58am PDT

Summary: SD Times has seen some new Microsoft documentation that provides more specifics on Midori, the Singularity-microkernel-based operating system that is being developed by a team under Eric Rudder, the one-time heir-apparent to Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates.

Over on SD Times, there are new technical details on Microsoft’s “Midori,” the alleged  successor to Windows that I blogged about last month.

SD Times has seen some new Microsoft documentation that provides more specifics on the Singularity-microkernel-based operating system that is being developed by a team under Eric Rudder, the one-time heir-apparent to Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates.

Midori is, indeed, a distributed operating system (harkening back to Microsoft’s old “Cairo” project). From the SD Times piece from July 29:

“In order to efficiently distribute applications across nodes, Midori will introduce a higher-level application model that abstracts the details of physical machines and processors. The model will be consistent for both the distributed and local concurrency layers, and it is internally known as Asynchronous Promise Architecture.”

It sounds from the article as though Midori, unsurprisingly, will be yet another manifestation of Software + Services, in that it will take advantage of “distributed concurrency,” or cloud-computing configurations.  Unlike Microsoft Research’s Singularity, which is a completely managed operating system, Midori seemingly will combine managed and unmanaged elements. (Guess that’s where some of Microsoft’s  “RedHawk” and “Sapphire” work will come into play….)

More details from the SD Times piece:

“The Midori documents indicate that the proposed OS would have a non-blocking object-oriented framework API. This would have strong notions of immutability—in the sense of objects that cannot be modified once created—and strive to foster application correctness through deep verifiability by using .NET programming languages.

“At the presentation layer, Microsoft is making a clean break from the existing Windows GUI model, where applications must update their display on one and only one thread at a time, and the associated problems that affect OS stability and make it more difficult to write multithreaded applications.

“The Midori documents indicate that the company has not decided what user interface abstractions are appropriate when applications cut across boundaries, or how to combine the best qualities of rich client applications and Web applications.”

Microsoft officials have been trying to downplay the significance of Midori by constituting it as nothing but a research project. Yes, Midori is under the domain of Craig Mundie, Microsoft’s Chief Research and Strategy Officer. But it is not in Microsoft Research and it is being championed by Rudder, one of Microsoft’s Senior Vice President of Technology Strategy. As I’ve reported, Midori is considered to be in incubation, meaning it is only a matter of time until Microsoft figures out how and if to take it commercial.

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Very nice!
Tiggster 29th Jul 2008
I am impressed with the idea of making GUI elements directly accessible from any thread within your application. An emphasis on .NET languages is also a significant plus. .NET is the future on the Microsoft platform! Developers who resist the migration do so at the inevitable risk of falling hopelessly behind.
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fr0thy2 30th Jul 2008
It's all so very exciting isn't it?
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I can't wait to use midori singularity.
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Midori is a hoax
Marcos El Malo 29th Jul 2008
This is just another marketing hoax, like Mojave. There is no
actual product under development. Reporters are being
shown mock ups based on Vista screenshots.

=) lolwut?
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I don't agree.
Dealing 29th Jul 2008
I don't agree. Yeah, it's true that the project named 'Midori' must be just a false rumor. But the next generation of windows are inevitably being developed or, at least, researched. The M$ researchers don't get paid 200K+ a year for just sitting around, ya know.
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They don't
Richard Flude 29th Jul 2008
"The M$ researchers don't get paid 200K+ a year for just
sitting around, ya know. "

MS claims to spend USD 7+ billion per annum on R&D with
next to nothing to show for it (outdated OS catching Apple,
an Office suite that gets a UI facelift occasionally, a re-
branded third party database, a copied VM architecture, etc).

Very sad company.
in annual earnings. Probably the dump heap then?
That's probably most accurately called a complete and abject failure.

To operate, free markets REQUIRE competition. It's high time Microsoft told us (with your money) that THEY ARE the free markets. wink
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Hoax, or vapourhoax?
fr0thy2 30th Jul 2008
The sooner they die the better. For everybody.
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I stick with Vista
qmlscycrajg 30th Jul 2008
I stick with Vista
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fr0thy2 Updated - 30th Jul 2008
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I don't understand why Mary Jo keeps saying that Midori is the successor to Windows, it's obviously not an OS from what I've read.
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Not an OS?
cruggeld 30th Jul 2008
So what is it? It is an OS that based on .NET technology just like singularity, cosmos, SharpOS(If it's already exists). So you are completely wrong.
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It's another wave of vapourware ...
fr0thy2 30th Jul 2008
... tried and tested. There'll always be enough stupid people out there to forego their consumer rights because they're scared of learning much about computers.
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Let's not Jump the Gun here
jpr75_z 30th Jul 2008
Midori is a research project at MS that is based on a very different OS model than Windows is/was. Whether we will see "Midori" on PCs is an unknown and much too early to tell. Let's not jump the gun and start spreading rumors that Midori will be replacing Windows - it might never even get out of the research stage.
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yes there is
I have it fool
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oh yea it is just a kernal but that is what makes an os an os.
It doesnt do a whole lot at the moment but it is pretty easy to program for, alot easier than the older oses from ms.
reminds me of linux the way it is written.
... they'll NEVER EVER do it.

Tick tock, tick tock. Bye bye sick greed.
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And who's working on Wine?
LBiege 30th Jul 2008
Not M$. And for what? Spending 10+ years to mimic Win32, a deadend framework M$ themselves have moved away from? Talking about trying to catch up.
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I dont know what kind of reaearch you have done but things and programing has done a major change as far as oses since xp.
as far as research at the manufacturer level ms is way ahead of alot of producers due to the fact ms has such a facility to do state of the art and they listen to their beta people.
apple doesnt even reply most of the time, which is not working due to both run the same hardware now and ms can do {usually better} than apple.
apple let me down with no updates for 4 years then all of the sudden over a hundred updates in one fix = a little behind do ya think.
also until that upgrade {payed for} it was corrupted by virus / bot tech until then.
ms killed it in 1 month.
research or what?
...QNX. Distributed, microkernal architecture, etc. Wow, it's 1985 all over again! Actually, imagine where we'd be now if Microsoft had bought QNX then and used it as the base for Windows?
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