Ozzie foreshadows 'Zurich,' Microsoft's elastic cloud

By | July 24, 2008, 3:38pm PDT

Microsoft Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie foreshadowed a couple of still-to-be-released Microsoft’s cloud-developer services during his speech at the company’s annual Financial Analyst Meeting (FAM) on July 24.

Ozzie was careful to avoid codenames or ship dates during his talk for Wall Street analysts and media in Redmond. But it was pretty clear Ozzie was alluding to Microsoft’s plans for its alternatives to Amazon.com’s Elastic Compute Cloud and similar offerings.

Microsoft is known (at least by some of us) to be building a cloud platform atop which it will allow ISVs to build their business applications. That platform is codenamed “Zurich.” Microsoft has described Project Zurich publicly — to the very limited extent done so — an initiative to “extend Microsoft’s .NET application development technologies to the Internet ‘cloud.’”

“Many software vendors and VARs (value-added resellers) want to move their solutions to the cloud,” Ozzie told FAM attendees. Ozzie also said that Microsoft hoped to build a hosted-developer solution that would appeal not just to commercial vendors, but to open-source companies, as well. Ozzie said Microsoft was developing a solution that would have a “pay-as-you-go” model.

Microsoft fielded a first piece of a hosted developer offering, known as SQL Server Data Services (SSDS) earlier this year. SSDS is considered a competitor to Amazon’s SimpleDB, which Amazon’s Web Services subsidiary of Amazon.com  released into public beta in December 2007, and is a complement and adjunct to the company’s Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2) and Simple Storage Service (S3). It allows customers to store, modify and query data hosted in the cloud.

Another related piece of the Zurich/elastic cloud puzzle is Microsoft’s Red Dog, which is the lowest-level operating-system layer that will run on Microsoft’s datacenter servers that will host Zurich hosted apps (best I can tell, with no confirmation from Microsoft.) I believe Ozzie also alluded to Red Dog at FAM, noting that on the back-end infrastructure, Microsoft was looking to provide software that would enable a single server or thousands of PCs spread across geographically dispersed datacenters, to be seen as a single server.

Ozzie told FAM attendees that Microsoft is working on a set of platforms and tools for the cloud transition. “We want to make a programming model leveragable on premise and in the cloud,” Ozzie said.

He noted that “Amazon has done a terrific job” at delivering a hosted solution for developers. “We’ve learned a lot from it.”

Ozzie declined to provide FAM attendees with a delivery date for Zurich, but said “over the course of fiscal ‘09 (which ends on June 30, 2009), you will see the entire strategy rounded out.”

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  • nice
    verynice
    ZDNet Gravatar
    ZDNET_guest666
    24th Jul 2008
  • Microsoft's elastic cloud
    Gee, we had elastic Wow!

    Now we are going to get the elastic cloud.

    Metaphor watch anyone?

    Get ready for a whole new blob of Bloat from the
    people who invented Bloat.

    Rule of thumb: If Microsoft promises something, the
    promise is, with near certainty, false.

    The credibility of Microsoft is so thoroughly in tatters
    from "The Wow Is Now!" that anything MSFT asserts to
    be the case should be regarded as false and deceptive.

    Anyone who doubts that MSFT management was blatantly lying about Vistaster should read the Vistaster
    Class Action Discovery at the Seattle PI. Top
    management and key directors knew that the
    advertising assertions were false.

    Elastic cloud? More like still more elastic dung from a
    Bloatfarm famous for it.

    When the MSFT sales puffery is demonstrated to be
    false, on whom will the adjustment burden fall? MSFT
    will have obtained its grain of revenue and the user
    will, once again, be screwed!

    When is the Bloatfarm going to understand that it
    needs to get external certification for its statements -
    a kind of Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval because
    of all of its false and deceptive advertising?

    Microsof Management has been selling an alternative
    universe for so long that even its closest partners (e.g.,
    Intel) are not willing to invest in its expansive scams.
    Moreover, daily, users are realizing that there are
    better ways to accomplish what they want.

    Simply put, MSFT is a collapsing Ponzi Scheme.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Jeremy W
    24th Jul 2008
  • The ABMers need new writers...
    You guys really need to bring in new blood. Your message is so old and tired it's kind of embarrassing for you.

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1501&tag=nl.e539

    The people in the study said they didn't like Vista based on the crap you boys spew but when faced with reality, they liked it.

    One guy said "Oh wow."

    I hear Cuba is moving more toward democracy so there are probably some out-of-work propaganda writers available...
    ZDNet Gravatar
    justthinking
    25th Jul 2008
  • Agreed
    Yeah, I'm open to all operating systems. If they work for you...great, if they don't, ok, let's hear about the specific issues with each.

    But these "you're a stinky poo poo" messages from ABMers are making me yawn.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Smarty_Pantz
    25th Jul 2008
  • umm...isn't "cloud" just a fancy name for hosted website/database?
    Ok, soooooo, that all sounds very cool when we use words like "cloud", but how is this any different than the (not so cool sounding) web-host with a database add-on?

    You can do this today:
    step 1: get a webhost (1 million to choose from)
    step 2: get your favorite database add-on (if not already included in the hosting package)
    step 3: use the .merge command in your code

    There. I just saved microsoft a billion dollars. (oh and i take a 5% commission) happy
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Smarty_Pantz
    25th Jul 2008
  • that's a start
    Now add the ability to:
    1) run any application you want. Build a server image and just run it. Think about a test environment for any software that you can rent by the hour.
    2) if you develop a web application that suddenly becomes popular, can you scale up your web host to a server cluster with dozens, or even hundreds of nodes?
    3) can you dynamically add nodes to your server cluster during peak hours and then remove the nodes at off-peak times? If so, are you fees based upon actual use or are they based upon peak capacity.

    Cloud computing are still emerging, but there are qualitative differences from current web hosts.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    shis-ka-bob
    26th Jul 2008
  • All very true though...
    The entire nature of the "cloud" is that it is by it's nature elastic.

    What Ozzie is talking about is a combination of tools and hosting which is what Amazon is doing now and Google is quickly moving towards.

    Fancy buzz words and internal project names aside there is nothing terribly exciting or even new here.

    Let's wait to see a finished product(s) rather than just another vapourware announcement blogged by Mary Jo from a speech.

    Right now it's spin and PR, nothing more.

    ttfn

    John
    ZDNet Gravatar
    TtfnJohn
    28th Jul 2008
  • It COULD be interesting - if MSFT could, you know, All DO the Same Thing?
    Ozzy's working on some cloud computing initiative named after a European city, while Ballmer's either trying to hostilely take over Yahoo...or admitting he'd really rather build Macs(?!?!?!?). Meanwhile, Vista is now and has always been ass that won't work on Normal People's Systems, and will just confuse them w/its klutzy OSX-wannabe interface and Homeland Security-like "User Access Control" (and yes, I bought Wasta preinstalled on an alleged "Vista-Ready" PC- and backgraded to XP after Six Frustrating Months trying to get the Wow! to Just Work!) - and all the Karl Rove-like bullying and talking points from Ballmer's Bigots like JustThinking and SmartyPants above won't change those simple facts.

    MSFT is a rudderless company with a joke of a flagship product, and an even BIGGER joke of a PR campaign to try and convince people that a turd is actually a truffle. What makes it even sadder is that MSFT has excellent products like the xBox and Silverlight which could do everything Ballmer's and Ozzy's dueling "strategic visions" (insert DILBERT insane giggling here) want and more - if they would just admit Vista and the Yahoo takeover were mistakes, the Zurich initiative is still a long ways off from implementation, and aim MSFT's admittedly impressive resources towards making the xBox 360 a one-stop-home-entertainment-and-basic-computing device. Once that's firmly in place, Ozzy can slipstream his fully-ready Cloud Computing setup into an already-extant soup-to-nuts solution - just like what Apple does, only better b/c it's also a rippin' gaming platform and home entertainment system!
    ZDNet Gravatar
    drprodny
    29th Jul 2008

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