Some testers expecting an early Windows 7 Beta 1 present

By | December 18, 2008, 8:24am PST

Summary: There’s talk that Microsoft has signed off internally on the Beta 1 Windows 7 bits internally. Word is the build number of what goes out to testers will be 6.1.7000.0.081212-1400. What do all those digits mean? And when will testers actually get their hands on the code?

There’s talk that Microsoft has signed off internally on the Beta 1 Windows 7 bits. Word is the build number of what goes out to testers will be 6.1.7000.0.081212-1400.

What do all those digits mean? And when will testers actually get their hands on the code?

Windows power users and long-time beta testers probably need no explanation, but the rest of us undoubtedly could stand some schooling. Here’s how it works:

  • 6 = Major NT OS version number (Windows 7, as the Softies have said, is built on the Windows Vista kernel, which they call NT Version 6)
  • 1 = Minor version number
  • 7000 = Major build number
  • 0 = Minor build number (if needed; otherwise omitted on most builds)
  • 081212-1400 = Build date stamp (08 = year, 12 = month, 12 = day, 1400= 2 p.m. using a 24-hour- format time stamp)

Once a release of Windows is released to manufacturing, the major build number is only changed when service packs are introduced. Example: VistaSP2/2008SP2 is build 6002. (The RTM build of Vista was No. 6000.16386.061101.2205, for those keeping track at home.)

So if Beta 1 really is 6.1.7000.0.081212-1400, it would mean it was built on December 12 at 2 p.m. (For the record, Microsoft officials still won’t talk build numbers and won’t say whether this is actually Beta 1 or if some later build will be officially christened Beta 1.)

Build numbers aside, when will testers get their hand on the Beta 1 bits? That’s a bit tenuous, too.

A Russian Web site posted earlier this week that testers would get the Beta 1 bits before the end of this week. But in the Beta 1 invite Microsoft sent to testers, company officials told the pre-selected group of “tech beta testers” not to expect to get Beta 1 code until early 2009.

I asked Microsoft for clarification on December 17, and was told by a spokesperson that testers won’t get the code until January.

Update: I asked again on December 18, just for the heck of it and got a slightly different statement from a spokesperson — a statement that leaves open the door for early beta deliveries:

“It is part of our normal testing process for testers to receive regular builds; however, the Windows 7 public beta is still expected in early 2009.”

Here’s my guess: I bet some fairly small group of testers will, indeed, get the Beta 1 bits by this weekend. But in order to keep the Windows team from being saddled with support and answering questions over the holidays, the majority of tech beta testers won’t get the code until early January. The public won’t get Beta 1 until some time after the tech beta testers give Beta 1 their overall stamp of approval — think later in January (with some kind of official Microsoft announcement at the Consumer Electronics Show).

One thing’s for sure: If early code recipients put the Beta 1 bits on torrents in the next few days, Beta 1 will be available all over the Web before the start of 2009. Maybe that initial internal Microsoft pre-Christmas Beta 1 target won’t be so far off, after all….

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for more than 25 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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voyager529 18th Dec 2008
The best way for Microsoft to release beta bits it just to slap 'em directly onto Mininova and Demonoid, complete with time bombing corporate key.

-MS wouldn't have to pay for bandwidth.
-It would get into alot of tech savvy hands fast.
-MS could see all the different "modded installs" and see which ones are popular. I'm not just talking about which release crams the most cracked software into it, but how users mod the install process itself. These mods make the software more desirable to end users, so Microsoft's marketing department gets free surveys, and their build department gets free R&D.
-MS gets credibility among the tech savvy.
-MS gets free, positive PR since it would be all over ZDNet and Slashdot in half a heartbeat and get everyone talking.

As long as MS bundles it with a time-bombing unlimited install key (i.e. unlimited activations until July 30, 2009), they lead the curve instead of being stuck behind it.

Joey
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soonerproud Updated - 18th Dec 2008
As long as MS bundles it with a time-bombing unlimited install key (i.e. unlimited activations until July 30, 2009), they lead the curve instead of being stuck behind it.

This makes way too much sense and Microsoft would never go for it.
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Good idea except
notsofast 19th Dec 2008
that I think they'd worry (and rightfully so) about people downloading what they thought was the MS release, but instead get one that's been loaded with malware.

Less technical users (lets' call them IT wannabes) would end up downloading it, and as soon as those Windows 7 Bots hit the net, there'd be nothing but criticism for the decision.

Of course, MS could have a checksum file that users can d/l directly from MS and then d/l could do a check, but the a lot of downloaders either wouldn't do it or would be unaware of it.

I also suspect they don't really want to deal with less technical users downloading the Beta. There can be benefits to that, but I suspect they'd rather put that off until there's an RC.

If they don't care about any of that, then I say upload it to the torrent sites....but I won't touch it unless there's a way to verify that it hasn't been tampered with.
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On zdnet.com there's a Flash banner is using a lot of CPU (I have flash 10 installed). It's the intel xeon advertising, it's very complex because that banner has a lot of links inside a 3D sphere. I have a dual core but that stupid banner is taking 100% of CPU of one core. Please remove that poorly written banner!
...it is just plain stupid to put an advertisement on a web page which consumes the entire CPU.
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2 solutions
NonZealot 18th Dec 2008
If you use FireFox: install the AdBlock Plus add-in.
If you use IE: install IE7 Pro which comes with an ad blocker.
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soonerproud 18th Dec 2008
If you are against using adblocking software, you might want to consider using Firefox with NoScript to disable badly behaved flash banners. Flashblock is another add on that will alleviate this problem.
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I agree!!
Grayson Peddie Updated - 18th Dec 2008
That stupid ad is not playing nice with my CPU, either!

I thought about putting IE7 Pro in Internet Explorer, however, I don't mind seeeing some ads AS LONG AS THE AD DOES NOT USE UP MORE THAN 5% OF MY CPU RESOURCES.

This dialog...

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Note that this flash animation had been stopped by Internet Explorer (which I believe it did).

I was not able to surf ZDNet until I see the dialog.

Just for the heck of it, here's what it looks like with my CPU almost in full throtter.

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Mary Jo Foley 18th Dec 2008
Hi. Yes, The Flash banner is a problem, especially if you are running IE. I've told our tech folks at ZDNet. We'll see what (if anything) they can do, given it's an ad. Sorry for the problems. MJ
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try silverlight
jk_10 18th Dec 2008
this give you a reason to consider silverlight. I am working on SL for a while. i don't see why not. please check this one to see what other peope say:

http://www.shinedraw.com/
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what reason?
vukko 19th Dec 2008
Great, use Silverlight. Yet another proprietary plugin to download and chew up all my CPU and create possible security holes.
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Adblock Plus is an even better fix
peter_erskine@... 18th Dec 2008
because you never see the offending ad, and it will spare you from lots of other guff too.
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And hope you don't get the same ad when you try again.
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This is a security add-on, but it lets to approve all Flash!
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Flashblock Works Great!!
itanalyst2@... 18th Dec 2008
Something IE doesn't offer.
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Ah but.
Bozzer Updated - 18th Dec 2008
A modified Hosts file works wonders on all browsers, and even has the benefit of stopping analytics, etc.

Needless to say I never noticed the flash banner. happy
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IE Offers
ArnavM 20th Dec 2008
Even IE offers the same add on. But, I don't know why,
its not used that widely...
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RE: Might as well be a public beta
Bozzer 18th Dec 2008
As those who are that way inclined and want to test drive beta 1 and didn't get the invite will turn to the torrents to get their fix. Of course they will be competing with "joe the plumber" downloading dvds, albums and games for torrent bandwidth on the domestic pipes.
Anyone know if technet subscribers get a sniff of a
Windows 7 beta test?
Use Firefox with the flash block add-on and block those adds in flash
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It would make way to much sense for M$ to do it that way. Next thing ya know M$ will be wanting some of that Bailout Money too!
I wish Mary Jo and others would lay off about Windows 7. For years Windows users have been plagued with half-baked Windows versions. XP was the best but still flawed. Windows ME and Vista were so flawed they should never have been released.

If everyone would shut up and let Windows 7 design team alone we just maybe will get a Windows that doesn't stink out of the box.

Instead of pushing for Windows 7, let them be, give them an extra six months or a year or however long it takes. Lets see if at last Microsoft can get it right.

But if you keep pushing for a release it is almost certain we'll get another flawed version.
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How do I become a beta tester?
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The thing with Microsoft and Apple is their propensity for making sudden gut wrenching changes in operating systems and in the case of Apple, hardware as well. Linux today is simply a much refined and far more capable system than it was 10 years ago. And yet, it is the same Linux. Most, I guess, are not troubled by being thus jerked around by Microsoft/Apple, nor are they bothered by the lack of flexibility and raw capability of Linux V Microsoft/Apple. Some of us will always need more, and for us Linux fills that need.
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eh?
Skullet 20th Dec 2008
Why is it that everytime someone posts a blog about Windows, at least 1 creepy Linux user will turn up to tell us that we're all wrong and they are right.

It reminds me of the "My Sega is better than your Nintendo" days back at school.
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Because.....
satovey@... 20th Dec 2008
At least 1 Linux user is creepy that way. wink
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Its the final release that worries me...
ZenTigerpaw 20th Dec 2008
Stripping Windows 7 of its primary programs (Mail, Movie
Maker, and Photo Gallery) is like when they sold the Special
Halo Edition of Xbox 360 without Halo. Its just gonna fail
in terms of advertising and marketing cause they'll have
nothing to sell expect finally admit that Vista sucked.

There just putting them selves in Apple's shoes back when
10.0 first hit the scene. They might as well do 7.1.x code
named "Kitten" and sell the Live services as a suit like iLife.
Cause there about to fall behind like Apple did.
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Where do I apply?
bonespiel@... 20th Dec 2008
I think I'd like to be a beta tester now that I'm laid off from work and have time to test things more now happy
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public beta will be January 7
graham.lv 21st Dec 2008
According to our sources the public beta will be made available on January 7. The full build string for the beta of Windows 7 will be 7000.0.081212-1400 which in other words means that the build 7000 will be the public beta.

The beta will not only be available in English language but also in localized editions..

http://windows7news.com/2008/12/18/public-windows-7-beta-news/
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