That's one way to get Silverlight on a mobile device: Port it to Moblin Linux

By | September 23, 2009, 11:53am PDT

Summary: On September 23, Intel demonstrated Microsoft’s Silverlight 3 running on an Atom-based Moblin device. That means Silverlight — and not Novell’s Moonlight version of it, but Microsoft’s own Silverlight — will run on mobile Linux netbooks, phones and more, as of early 2010.

To date, whenever anyone asked Microsoft officials when the company will deliver a version of Silverlight running on mobile phones, the answers range from a flat-out no comment, to a “real soon now/stay tuned.”

Most company watchers assumed that Microsoft would make Silverlight available on Windows Mobile devices first — and, if Microsoft still plans to pull any rabbits out of its Windows Mobile hat on October 6, launch day for Win Mobile 6.5 phones, maybe it will.

But at the Intel Developer Forum on September 23, Intel demonstrated Microsoft’s Silverlight 3 running on an Atom-based Moblin device. That means Silverlight — and not Novell’s Moonlight version of it, but Microsoft’s own Silverlight — will run on mobile Linux netbooks, phones and more, as of early 2010.

Moblin is an Linux Foundation project and is an open source Linux-based system for next generation devices, primarily those based on Intel Atom hardware. Moblin can run on netbooks/PCs, phones and other mobile Internet devices, or MIDs. A beta of Moblin Version 2, optimized for nettops/netbooks, went to testers on September 23. Intel’s press release today said “operating system support for Microsoft Silverlight will be expanded to include Moblin early next year.”

Silverlight is Microsoft’s cross-browser plug-in that works with Internet Explorer on Windows, Firefox on Windows and Linux platforms and Safari on the Mac.

Microsoft, unsurprisingly, is emphasizing that Intel is supporting Silverlight on Atom on both  Windows 7 and Moblin. From a September 23 post on the official Microsoft Silverlight blog:

“Today, Intel announced at IDF (Intel Developer Forum) support for Silverlight 3 on their Atom-based devices. This collaboration is focused on enabling consumers to have a great out of the box experience for browsing the Web and we see Silverlight support as a key aspect of that.

“These Atom-based devices run Windows 7 or Moblin, which is Intel’s preferred flavor of Linux for embedded scenarios. As part of this, Silverlight will become one of the technologies supported within Intel’s Atom Developer Program.  Developers can target Silverlight as a preferred client runtime and know they will get solid support on Atom-based devices.”

The Silverlight blog post also made sure to throw in a mention of Moonlight, the port of Silverlight to Linux which Microsoft origially shunned and then embraced (to the point where Microsoft now uses the pronoun “we” when referring to who is doing the work there). From the post:

“We see this is a clear extension of our current efforts with Novell where we are building an open source implementation of Silverlight called ‘Moonlight’ that is targeted at the broad range of Linux–based PCs.”

Microsoft also announced delivery of Windows Embedded 6.0 R3, which includes a custom version of Silverlight, earlier this week. But Microsoft officials said that the inclusion of Silverlight in that operating system had no implications for making Silverlight available on mobile phones.

Update: Microsoft isn’t offering a whole lot of particulars about how Silverlight is being moved onto Moblin, other than reconfirming the effort uses neither Moonlight nor Mono. From a spokesperson:

“Microsoft plans to make a porting kit available to OEMs that will enable them to port Silverlight to their Moblin-based devices. Microsoft will provide Intel with Silverlight source code and test suites, and Intel will provide Microsoft with an optimized version of Silverlight for Moblin devices that Microsoft can then redistribute to OEMs. So when you get a device with Moblin, it will come with Silverlight.”

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RE: That's one way to get Silverlight on a mobile device: Port it to Moblin Linux
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Now I could at least accept that.
storm14k Updated - 23rd Sep 2009
I'm still a bit wary of an MS plugin becoming an internet standard. BUT at LEAST they are doing this as a first party and not some half baked, always behind the times attempt like Moonlight and Mono. If they had first class support for the CLR on other operating systems I would be open to it.

Oh and the other thing....MS is eventually going to concede the fact that they can't keep giving away Windows. Linux will have to take its place on the netbook and they will have to find other ways to keep it from spreading to the normal desktop. One way might just be Moblin or similar customized interfaces. They don't threaten to show lure people away from the familiarity of a Windows desktop to do normal work. The good thing for the Linux crowd is that it increases the install base which increases drivers and other compatibility issues as businesses would then have to think about Linux clients accessing their services. It could work out to be a win win.
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the community should rise
Linux Geek 23rd Sep 2009
and fight the polution of the GPLed code with proprietary products from M$.
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(NT) Bipolar much?
Jack-Booted EULA 23rd Sep 2009
:o)
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Oi...
IssacS 23rd Sep 2009
Seriously, dial it down. Microsoft's actions will speak for themselves, how they engage open-source communities with this will speak for themselves.

No need to act like this, so long as they are watched. And trust me, they are...
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Embrace/Extend/Extinguish
bubba555 24th Sep 2009
"Microsoft's actions will speak for themselves" until they decide to change their actions to attack their partners, after they have embraced them. All you need to do is look at how they have treated their 'partners' in the past.
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It is?
Richard Flude 23rd Sep 2009
"Silverlight is Microsoft?s cross-browser plug-in that works
with Internet Explorer on Windows, Firefox on Windows
and Linux platforms and Safari on the Mac."

Silverlight is not available for Linux. Moonlight is not Silverlight, it's an incomplete clone.

If MS is to make available a complete certified Silverlight
version for Linux it would be a good thing for developers
using this technology cross platform.
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They want Linux people to use Bing
nonamelab 23rd Sep 2009
Now that Bing has Silverlight.
Truth be told, if Microsoft doesn't use Moonlight/Moonshine or engages the Mono community with this new solution (IN THE OPEN, not just private coordination with Norvel) on Moblin, it would be quite the insult to Norvel's work and efforts to this point. I would also be forced to question what Norvel's agreement with them would mean if they are willing to take a slap to the face like that.
Given that Intel no longer controls the Moblin project (which they have given to the Linux Foundation before 2.0's beta release), their support of Silverlight on Moblin doesn't mean much. Other than the packages for it being found on the Moblin repositories, anything that Intel says on Moblin is really up to Linux Foundation to allow... If they don't like Mono, and/or Silverlight/Moonlight or can't provide either of them (legally), Intel can say what they want, it's NOT happening if those two issues come up.


If Microsoft cares to engage with the open-source community, I am not sure that they can afford (save in the bankbook) to develop this solution of Silverlight in a black room. They have been working rather hard to have something of a dialogue with the community (at least through Norvel) and support OS tech a little better when they can, this would be something of a set back if they are not talking about their plans publicly. To me, that would be a shame... since it puts a lot of hard work on their part to shame.
Not an unexpected however.
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Norvel ???
nonamelab 24th Sep 2009
I think you mean NOVELL
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. . . of development resources at MS's 'friend' Novel. I wonder how this will be released and if will be made available under license to other distributions.
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It was one person at Novell
LiquidLearner 24th Sep 2009
and it was his pet project. As silverlight code is provided he was just working on porting it to Linux. I think he expected to have help from the Linux community as a whole, as did MS, and they didn't get it. So if MS sees fit to port Silverlight themselves I fail to see how it's a bad thing.
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