Tit for tat: TomTom sues Microsoft for patent infringement

Tit for tat: TomTom sues Microsoft for patent infringement

Summary: TomTom, the GPS vendor Microsoft sued last month for patent infringement, has filed a patent-infringement suit against Microsoft.

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TomTom, the GPS vendor Microsoft sued last month for patent infringement, has filed a patent-infringement suit against Microsoft.

TomTom is alleging in its suit, filed on March 16, that Microsoft infringes with its Streets and Trips program on four TomTom patents.

Microsoft sued TomTom for for allegedly infringing on eight of its patents. Three of those patents centered around FAT, Microsoft's patented file-allocation-table technology -- and TomTom's implementation in the Linux kernel involving FAT.

It looks like TomTom isn't backing down from its refusal to become one of the growing list of companies signing cross-patent licensing agreements with the Softies.... And it looks like TomTom's suit isn't deterring Microsoft from its original complaints, either, based on the company's statement on TomTom's countersuit.

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for 30 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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  • Tit for tat: TomTom sues Microsoft for patent infringement

    TomTom just signed its own death warrant. It was nice knowing you. This is one of the dumbest moves I have ever seen any company make. Those of you with the TomToms better start getting your ebay accounts ready. Glad I didn't fall prey to the "I got a TomTom because it wasn't Microsoft!" crowd. LOL, don't they feel like idiots now.
    Loverock Davidson
    • Based on what?

      Your "expert" opinion. Truth is software patents are for the birds and
      should never have been allowed (along with process patents on how to
      clean an office).

      Chances are, both suits have a small amount of merit and will end in an
      agreement not to bother each other.

      Thinking Tom-Tom will just go away is just MS fanyboy wishing.
      Bruizer
    • Bad Mike Cox rip off

      Really, Mike is much better than you. Actually, you're somewhat of an embarrassment.
      nizuse
      • He's not a Mike Cox rip off, he's serious. He's like NonZealot. [nt]

        [nt]
        olePigeon
    • Yawn

      ZZzzzzzzzzzz.
      Alan Smithie
    • This is a standard countermove

      This is hardly unexpected. If TomTom has *any* patents even remotely related they'll countersue.

      Typically this dance ends in a cross-license agreement. It's certainly no signing TomTom's death warrant.

      Of course if TomTom *does* sign cross licensing then Section 7 of the GPL may kick them in the teeth...
      wolf_z
    • Bwahahaha...

      Nice attempt at spin. Well not really, but shills will always be shills. The market will react favorably to a company that stands its ground against marketplace bullies rather than rolling over like a chump. TomTom just gained a lot of supporters.
      jasonp@...
    • I feel rather good...

      about my purchase of my TomTom. Bought one for my sister and mom too. Good luck to you on your choice of GPS.
      Dave32265
    • TomTom far more accurate

      MS based units are less accurate, and have fairly unsophisticated routing algorithms.

      I have a TomTom 710. It knows where my house is. It finds the short way to work. It also finds the way, the short way, if I wish to avoid interstates.

      My wife has a Navigon 2200. It thinks my house is at the opposite end of the street. The path to my work place is so convoluted even I can't follow it - and I know this area well.

      My daughter has my wife's old Garmin. It's just like the Navigon, but you have to pay through the nose for updates.
      Dr. John
  • RE: *** for tat: TomTom sues Microsoft for patent infringement

    Take that Microsoft piece of crapolla company@!!!!!
    No More Microsoft Software Ever!
  • Good

    Go on TomTom
    Alan Smithie
  • TomTom using patents in GPL Code

    WTF, so they are not only breaching the GPL by using MS Patents in their code but they are using their OWN patents in GPL code, WTF.

    They want the best off all worlds, they want to steal others patents, breach the GPL, and use their own patents as well.

    Yes, TomTom is very very stupid, and well criminal,

    Seems like TomTom and the law will never meet.
    Aussie_Troll
    • Silly Troll, companies can always put their own patents in GPL code

      By distributing its code under the GPL, a company provide an automatic patent license along with a copyright license for all its relevant patents. The GPL has always worked like that too - GPL v3 merely closed a loophole.
      Zogg
    • Have you ever actually read the GPL?

      Sorry... it does contain a few words of more than two syllables.

      Here's a translation of it into British English--probably close enough to Strine you shouldn't have much trouble with it:

      http://people.csse.uwa.edu.au/jmd/gpl_en.txt
      Henrik Moller
  • You know, Mary Jo, it would be REALLY helpful...

    ...if you had pointed to a copy of the TomTom suit. Or listed which patents TomTom is claiming infringed.

    This way we know nothing of substance. So how about an update? Erica Ogg's article (that you link to) doesn't say anything more than yours does.
    wolf_z
    • Finding it hard to believe huh? Get used to it!

      I'm sure there are more on the way!

      With time and effort the world will get free from those redmond patent trolls :-)
      InAction Man
  • <b>Go</b> Tom Tom <b>Go</b>!

    The day we'll finally be done with the redmond crap is nearer and nearer.

    I can barely wait.
    InAction Man
  • The patent sword cuts both ways ...

    and TomTom seems have a couple in it's portfolio too.

    The best-case scenario is that the court reviews the patents presented and vacates them all, causing the USA patent office to stop granting these all-too-questionable patents in the first place.

    Then again, hoping for anything positive out of our legal system is just dreaming ... so we probably won't be seeing the software patent insanity deleted anytime soon.

    Regards,
    Jon
    JonathonDoe
  • Goodbye Tom Tom, your history.

    The smart move would have been to make a deal, now they sealed their fate.
    No_Ax_to_Grind
    • Fate?

      They don't need MS for anything so theres no rug to pull. No fate sealed here.
      storm14k