Wanted: New information on XP SP3

Wanted: New information on XP SP3

Summary: If Microsoft officials don't want you to know about Vista Service Pack (SP) 1, you can be darn well sure they really don't want to talk about Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 3. But customers definitely want to discuss it.

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If Microsoft officials don't want you to know about Vista Service Pack (SP) 1, you can be darn well sure they really don't want to talk about Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 3. But customers definitely want to discuss it.

XP users who still aren't crazy about the idea of moving to Vista are quite interested in the status of the long-promised update to Windows XP. (Microsoft released the most recent XP update, XP SP2, way back in the summer of 2004.) I get queries from readers weekly about when XP SP3 will hit and what it will likely include.

There was a flap earlier this year regarding Microsoft possibly changing the due date for XP SP3. Microsoft officials have been saying for the past few months that the company would not provide the final XP SP3 until some time in the first half of 2008. In late May, however, there was a mention in a Microsoft press release that XP SP3 would ship "some time later this year." Microsoft's official response was that the 2007 date was a typo. (Yeah, that "typo" defense again.)

I also went back and looked at the "official statement" I got from Microsoft PR in late May:

“I just received additional information from the product manager responsible for SP3. While we’re still not talking specifics, he did point to the following link as an accurate timeline for our preliminary plans for SP3: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx."

Bottom line: Microsoft never flat-out denied XP SP3 would ship this year.

OK. Conspiracy theories aside, one of my sources recently told me the client team is, indeed, aiming to get XP SP3 out this year. Preliminary target: October 2007. (Again, it's not clear if this is a target for a beta or the final.)

Granted, this information is only from one source. But remember the new mission of the Windows client team: Underpromise and overdeliver. Make people happy by seeming to ship early. Don't make them mad by having to admit you are running late. And, don't forget,  Vista SP1 is running earlier than Microsoft had led many customers, partners and adversaries to believe ....

To all of you who've been clamoring for an XP SP3 update, that's all I've been able to get. Anyone else have anything to share, re: an updated XP SP3 timeline, feature set or other details?

Topics: Windows, Microsoft

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for 30 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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  • Underpromise and overdeliver

    ...isn't that the mission statement for all folks in the IT field? M$ is lame.
    jhhicks@...
    • Miracle Worker Motto by Montgomery Scott

      "Always multiply your estimated repair time by a factor of four."
      nucrash
      • Thank god

        there is no Chilton's manual for computer repairs. Pretty soon every PC service centre would be out of business following their recommendations.
        pmshah@...
    • They got it reversed

      The track record says different.

      Overpromise and under deliver.
      pmshah@...
    • very very sad

      Sounds like your the kind of person that gets a popup requesting you to hit ANY KEY and you over your keyboard for hours / making calls / looking at keyboard diagrams for the ANY KEY

      kubuntu - Ubuntu have their share of issues
      Mac - Red Apple - ect... all have their fair share of issues
      Some times all goes well
      some times they dont
      30,000 people will install drivers for one thing and never have an Issue and All of a sudden 12 people have issues while installing the same drivers (( Its XP crap )) they cry out Its not the CD/DVD drive - its not the dirty CD/DVD - Its not that you have programs running that you need to close is it
      Its always microsofts fault when the software clearly says close the programs you have running - did you ever think of the programs running in the back ground you can not SEE ??
      Duaaaa its microsofts faulty crap software right always microsoft
      Always some jurk that knows better thinking they can make software run better by closing / deleting system files
      and then they cry when all falls apart and it was never their fault its microsoft

      Let not forget about the stupid smart ******** who use a windows 95 printer and cry about not having XP/Vista drivers that work properly with it
      Upgrading windows also requires upgrading other hardware the chips made in the old products just can't handle the new driver commands to its full

      Like taking an old Motor chev chevett and trying to install a new V6 will it go Yes but not with out many issues and even still its never right but runable

      So lets all get a life and learn why the issues actually happen before posting blame
      and lets accept the facts nothing is ever perfect (( MAC is now under attack and hacked in less than 2 min's )) Steve is upset but clearly says we are not perfect but we do our best

      If you or you know hackers/crackers who cause such distructions you need to turn your self in or them or just stop with the crap
      and we would not have 3/4 of the issues

      My personal oppion Bill gates should have destroyed all the codes - Killed every one that knew / worked on them and Shut the whole thing down

      Music Industry approved Cassett recorders / VHS - CD/DVD Burners
      Now after all these years they cry foul play when sharing becomes more than just a few hundred thousands they want a pice of the action just like the gov and others want a pice of microsoft
      every one crying foul play I want my share

      barbie vers brats to the point of carbon dating the sketches how sick and pathedic
      matel is just like you all crying
      mortex
  • Autopatcher

    For those of you looking to easily deploy all patches from XP SP2 until now. Consider using Autopatcher (http://www.autopatcher.com). As an IT manager it makes my life WAY easier. MJ - Love the blog!!!
    velkymx@...
    • Wow, thanks :)

      This seems like it'll make things a *ton* easier, but how do I know that AutoPatcher includes *all of* and *only* the official code of the updates?
      fevrin
    • Its not easy

      Their core downloads ru around 300/350 mb in size. The monthly downloads are around 40 to 5o MB each.

      Better bet would be to use windizupdate with Firefox of Opera.
      pmshah@...
  • SP3

    And why should Microsoft bother with XP? MS wants users to upgrade to Vista if they continue messing around and providing support for XP no one will bother upgrading. Aside from IE being intergraded and non removable, XP is one of the best OS's Microsoft has created. It's all about money!
    aussieblnd@...
    • WHY they should bother with XP

      Is because they know that Vista has it's share of annoying issues (namely compatibility) and that people want a choice. If all they supported was vista there'd be a lot of angry people out there. I'm using vista right now on my work computer (not my choice) and I absolutely hate it. I have XP and kubuntu running on my systems at home. It's quite annoying when you double click an icon to start an installed program and Vista asks "are you sure you want to do that?"...YES I'm sure I want to do that. I wouldn't have double clicked the icon if i didn't want to run it. I'll also be in the middle of photoshop cs3 extended working on a photo or something and it'll just STOP WORKING. Vista doesn't know why so it will just close it. I also have a HPC running Handheld PC 2000 pro and it uses active sync to connect to the pc, but vista won't let you do that. You can't even install the program because vista has it's own portable device sync program that doesn't even work with what I have. I don't have these problems with XP so I'm looking forward to a new SP. Maybe one day Microsoft will actually get everything worked out with vista, but i seriously doubt it.
      SpiderTech
      • XP is offered on new machines

        Since Dell is also offering XP as an options on new machines I guess it becomes obligatory on M$ to at least furnish update patches for the next couple of years.

        I guess "SP-3" would be the only suitable term. For M$ bottom line it is XP-SP3 or practically nothing. The choice is obvious.
        pmshah@...
        • Don't mixt up with XPS Solution from Dell and XP Service Pack 3

          At my knowlage there is nothing offer actualy from Dell with XP base software operating system other than old Dell product that are still available.

          Plus, XPS offer by Dell is concerning the New label of generation of Dell PC using Vista product.

          See: XPS Gaming Desktops
          http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/xpsdt_gaming?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
          pobstar1@...
          • XP is offered by Dell

            Dell does offer the XP operating system as a choice. I followed your link and when you get to the customize computer section, you can choose your operating system. They may not be advertising it on the front web pages, but it is offered as a choice when you get to purchasing the machine.
            jimvpbiz@...
      • Sad very very sad

        Sounds like your the kind of person that gets a popup requesting you to hit ANY KEY and you over your keyboard for hours / making calls / looking at keyboard diagrams for the ANY KEY

        kubuntu - Ubuntu have their share of issues
        Mac - Red Apple - ect... all have their fair share of issues
        Some times all goes well
        some times they dont
        30,000 people will install drivers for one thing and never have an Issue and All of a sudden 12 people have issues while installing the same drivers (( Its XP crap )) they cry out Its not the CD/DVD drive - its not the dirty CD/DVD - Its not that you have programs running that you need to close is it
        Its always microsofts fault when the software clearly says close the programs you have running - did you ever think of the programs running in the back ground you can not SEE ??
        Duaaaa its microsofts faulty crap software right always microsoft
        Always some jurk that knows better thinking they can make software run better by closing / deleting system files
        and then they cry when all falls apart and it was never their fault its microsoft

        Let not forget about the stupid smart assholes who use a windows 95 printer and cry about not having XP/Vista drivers that work properly with it
        Upgrading windows also requires upgrading other hardware the chips made in the old products just can't handle the new driver commands to its full

        Like taking an old Motor chev chevett and trying to install a new V6 will it go Yes but not with out many issues and even still its never right but runable

        So lets all get a life and learn why the issues actually happen before posting blame
        and lets accept the facts nothing is ever perfect (( MAC is now under attack and hacked in less than 2 min's )) Steve is upset but clearly says we are not perfect but we do our best

        If you or you know hackers/crackers who cause such distructions you need to turn your self in or them or just stop with the crap
        and we would not have 3/4 of the issues

        My personal oppion Bill gates should have destroyed all the codes - Killed every one that knew / worked on them and Shut the whole thing down

        Music Industry approved Cassett recorders / VHS - CD/DVD Burners
        Now after all these years they cry foul play when sharing becomes more than just a few hundred thousands they want a pice of the action just like the gov and others want a pice of microsoft
        every one crying foul play I want my share

        barbie vers brats to the point of carbon dating the sketches how sick and pathedic
        matel is just like you all crying
        mortex
  • XP SP3

    It's true, there is little info on XP SP3. This does in fact fall within the new under
    promise/over deliver directive (UP/ODD). So XP SP3 UP/ODD is on track (OT) for 08.
    While XP SP3 UP/ODD OT/08 != VistaSP1UP/ODD OT/08, XP SP3 UP/ODD OT/08 ==
    VRC UP/ODD OT/08 IMHO.

    OSX >> XP SP3 UP/ODD OT/08 ++ VSP1 UP/ODD OT/08 :) LOL
    Harry Bardal
    • Message has been deleted.

      Hallowed are the Ori
    • I am shocked

      How did you get all this inside information?
      pmshah@...
    • Yes, but the most important part.........

      $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
      $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
      $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
      is what it's all about.
      Ole Man
  • Microsoft Strategies and Microsoft Headache is Server 2008

    Mrs. Folley, Microsoft is stuck between the major lack of performance of Vista version other than the Ultimate version which is something looking like Windows Millennium anyway. They will issue Vista SP1 in the beginning of fall and lather in November or December XP SP1. So, Both in the same Quarter.

    Windows Server 2008 will have all what Longhorn was suppose to have in term of security and other improvement specifications that was deal out of what it is now Vista by the government Anti-trust law. Remember the lobbying of security developers against all the good security measures that Longhorn was about to offer and the fact that users wouldn?t have any need to buy ?Security softwares?. Remember also all the pressure of the softwares lobby on the United States Legislation at that time and that was crying to ?anti-monopoly? law against Microsoft.

    In the other hand Microsoft can?t issue a SP3 for XP before the one for Vista because that will increase the users to keep XP version and avoid buying Vista.

    The fact is in my concern that Microsoft want the ?Big Buyers? to wait for Longhorn Server 2008 to be issue (Feb 2008) with all the benefice of security that will improve there LAN park of PC in enterprise using XP or Vista with a pressure to transform all there XP user to Vista for better management. In this they will argue that those two longhorn version will be a complete armor against all intrusion and malware risk and other major improvements. Also there are working on Office 2007 to meet there goal.

    You can?t have in stores the XP SP3 available for resale and same for PC manufacturers offering Windows OS XP in there new machines. Here were I live all the major resellers are offering majors PC manufacturers with Vista Ultimate version install for home users PC such as HP and others that they have in there shell store. They stop resealing PC with the other Vista versions for all the reason that we know.

    For all this, Microsoft won?t be in a comfortable position before that Windows Server 2008 will be available in stores shell starting in March 2008.

    Also we know now that ordinary people at home or small office own more than one PC and will be in title to consider having Server 2008 version (that meet Home Land need) that will safely run all there PC in use in there home LAN park.

    The base line for Microsoft is to issue Vista SP1 before XP SP3 and if they do the opposite there will be shooting on there feet, because there strategies is to convince All; home users and all offices users of all kind, that Vista goes with Server 2008 for the perfect operating management skim.

    So if this is having sense softwares Security developers will not have much meat to hold on against Server 2008 because it is build on server realities not in OS field realities.

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/default.mspx
    ?Windows Server 2008, with built-in Web and virtualization technologies, enables you to increase the reliability and flexibility of your server infrastructure. New virtualization tools, Web resources, and security enhancements help you save time, reduce costs, and provide a platform for a dynamic and optimized datacenter. Powerful new tools like IIS7, Windows Server Manager, and Windows PowerShell, allow you to have more control over your servers and streamline Web, configuration, and management tasks. Advanced security and reliability enhancements like Network Access Protection and the Read-Only Domain Controller harden the operating system and protect your server environment to ensure you have a solid foundation on which to build your business.?

    ?Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services RemoteApp are designed for easy remote access and application integration with the local desktop, enabling secure and seamless application deployment without the need for a VPN.?

    ?Windows Server 2008 helps protect against failure and intrusion for servers, networks, data, and user accounts.
    Network Access Protection gives you the power to isolate computers that don?t comply with your organization's security policies, and provides network restriction, remediation, and ongoing compliance checking.?
    pobstar1@...
    • If Microsoft Server 2008 is the "home user" solution approved by HTTV

      If Microsoft Server 2008 is the "home user" solution approved by HTTV

      If Microsoft Server 2008 is the "home user" solution approved by HTTV (Hight Tech Testers and Reviewers) I will buy Server 2008 for sure for my home Land need. Personal small office and wife and kids PC protections and managements needs.

      If I was single with only one PC I will consider having a Server 2008 in addition to protect my single PC even if it is not a Microsoft OS running it.

      I will not buy a Microsoft Home Server base on ?Centro?. See M.J.Folley December 29th, 2006 Microsoft to unveil Windows Home Server at CES
      Look at this for using Server 2008 base on Longhorn as Home Server.
      http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:L_hAoJU1IiUJ:www.betanews.com/article/Windows_Server_2008_The_Last_32bit_Operating_System/1179359920+Windows+Server+2008+and+Home+users&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=ca
      "But what does this mean for operating system support down the road? If Laing's pronouncement holds true, even the Windows Server editions designated for home users (don't forget "Home Server" is a server) will be 64-bit only. That won't be a problem for system designers, though it may be a factor for individuals looking to build their own home servers on the cheap, perhaps using Gigabyte's upcoming Micro DTX form factor motherboards."
      pobstar1@...