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Yes or no: Is Microsoft going to keep making Zunes?

By | January 12, 2009, 11:03am PST

Comments by Microsoft execs last week during the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) made murky Microsoft’s future plans for the Zune. And follow-up over the weekend on the Zune Insider blog didn’t clarify matters any.

Users want to know whether Microsoft plans to stay in the Zune hardware business. Will Microsoft make any more Zune players? Will the company issue future Zune firmware updates? How long will Microsoft support existing players if it exits that business? No one will go on the record and provide clarification.

Instead, Microsoft officials are saying things like this:

“We’ve been saying for some time that our strategy for Zune is to provide a great entertainment experience across multiple screens and devices.  Software and services have always been at the core of this strategy - this is nothing new.  Today, this means a great Zune experience on the PC and portable Zune devices, and as we have said before we think it makes sense to extend that experience to other devices in the future,” blogged Paul Davidson, Lead Video Producer, Zune Video Marketplace.

It’s already known that Microsoft is planning to move Zune services to mobile phones. That’s what the Zune Mobile announcement that many were expecting at CES but now is unlikely before next month.

Poster Christopher Coulter expressed many users’ frustration with Microsoft’s failure to be clear about Zune’s future:

How to keep conspiracy theories alive and drench all marketing fires, answer things in a haze cloud of PR nothingness. Don’t ever directly state anything, use codewords such as ‘extend’ and ‘today” followed by a “future’.

“Just one clear answer that you aren’t going to abandonware an entire hardware platform. Not so hard to do. Right?”

Would you care if Microsoft abandons the Zune hardware market — if it continues to provide Zune subscription and sharing services on other devices?

Update: On January 13, a Microsoft Zune spokesman claimed Microsoft “is not getting out of the hardware business at all.” Too bad it took Microsoft almost a week to comment on Ballmer’s and Microsoft’s President of Entertainment and Devices’ Robbie Bach’s less-than-straightforward comments about Zune’s future.

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RE: Yes or no: Is Microsoft going to keep making Zunes?
dfwekrdfe91-24353650913509681072530342872429 11th Nov
hjpagw,good post!
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Um yea
JT82 Updated - 12th Jan 2009
that would suck. I really think the Zune is the ONLY competitor to the iAnything and would be horribly upset. I refuse to purchase, own, use, or operate an iPod - due to Apples business model (which I do not agree with).
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Sansa Pwned that market before Zune
nucrash 12th Jan 2009
Microsoft pretty much threw their name in the hat, marketed their Brown bomber as the premium bag of dookie to buy. Even though the player not only looked like a deuce freshly dropped from Mr Gates himself, the item in question was marketed as the golden goose and flagship of them all when in reality it was merely a redress and proprietary lock-in of the Toshiba Gigabeat. The same Gigabeat that suffered the December 31st mental moment lasting a day.

Sansa would have been a better option from the get go, but Microsoft as always tries to take a pile of poo, coat it with a nice glaze and market the hell out of it.
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You can not be serious
GuidingLight 12th Jan 2009
The Zune is so much better the the sansa, and the zune has received great reviews (from the truely unbiased) even scoring better then the iClod, er, the iPod in many cases.
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My Zune player does not have that sad
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... decent quality? Before I bought my Zune I had a terrible generic player w/ absolutely horrendous voice recording... All you could hear was static...
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Better than with my Sony ICD-P520
markbn 12th Jan 2009
However, it's not "top" quality. It does the job for
me, but your mileage may vary
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=P ... At least it records ...
Core2uu 13th Jan 2009
Depending on what you're doing I guess it doing the job is fine... But after my experience if I want to voice record something, I'll buy a dedicated voice recorder...
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Market it?
TallTomD 14th Jan 2009
Umm, maybe I'm kooky, but I don't see how you can say Microsoft marketed the Zune in any way. Most people I know have never even heard of a Zune, much less seen any advertising. I was explaining the device to my brother-in-law, who said he would have certainly bought a Zune instead of his third iPod had he been aware of the existence of the Zune. He liked the FM Stereo option, the WiFi capability, and the Zune software much better than his iPod. The only thing the iPod gives him is a dead battery, and thus a new device, every 18 months or so, along with bloated software that brings his PC to a crawl.

IF, and only if, Microsoft would actually advertise and effectively market their product, then they might be able to compete. As it stands now, Apple is the marketing champion. Their iPod commercials are catchy, colorful, and create great brand awareness. Their OS X commercials have mastered the practice of F.U.D. while being cute and memorable. Microsoft coat it with glaze and market it? Where do you live? LA-LA-Land?
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Yeah, the Zune phone
Maarek 12th Jan 2009
read the subject
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As big as the original Zune
nucrash 12th Jan 2009
Yippee
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ZunePhone is already announced...
Bruizer 12th Jan 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLRjKCGHek

I am sure some Zune fanatics would buy it.

Steven
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Don't really care
CobraA1 12th Jan 2009
Don't really care - but then again, like the vast majority of the people out there, I'm using an iPod with iTunes.

Sorry, but Apple's products just work. They have done a great job at mobile interfaces. They offered the hard drive devices with PC-like capacities before anybody else did. They're always offering the best technology first. And Apple knows how to deliver hype and a brand name to music lovers better than even Microsoft.

Lemme repeat: They're always offering the best technology first. They got the large hard drive models first. They always expanded their capacity before anybody else did. Now they have the iPod touch that goes well beyond simply music.

If Microsoft (or anybody else) wants to beat Apple, they have to stop tacking a FM radio onto Apple's last generation of technology and come up with something that moves ahead of Apple, not one step behind.
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My Zune just works too
markbn 12th Jan 2009
Not sure what is your point. I guess that Zune users
DO care about this kind of things. You just made a
post to show off or what?
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lol
CobraA1 12th Jan 2009
Not saying anything majorly wrong with it, except Microsoft tends to be one step behind Apple when it comes to MP3 players.
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MP3 players?
nucrash 12th Jan 2009
Stop living in 2002, this is 2009, they are PMPs.
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Which is why the Zune fails.
Bruizer 12th Jan 2009
They always compete with 2 years ago iPods.
than iPods:

http://reviews.cnet.com/zune-vs-ipod/
http://reviews.cnet.com/4370-6490_7-706-101.html

iPod Touch is basically a different animal. It's no
longer just an "MP3 player". It's more like a PDA with
iPod software. The new iPod nano, might be better than
the Flash Zunes, but the latter had first the video
screen in landscape. Previous iPod nanos were in
portrait mode, do you remember? According to your
criteria, Zune is also ahead of iPod in terms of
design?
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So what your saying is....
A Grain of Salt Updated - 12th Jan 2009
Zune has finally caught up with and actually pipped Apple's
old technology. Remember, the iPod Classic (read as iPod
"old") basically hasn't changed, except for a couple of
software tweaks, minor chip and capacity upgrades, since
the first video iPods. How long ago was that? Four...
maybe... five years ago.

No... I think they should be comparing latest offerings with
latest offerings. The Zune 80/120 should be compared
with the iPod Touch as it is Microsoft's latest offering and
the flag ship of their PMP range, as the iPod Touch is
Apple's. Other than capacity, I wonder how it would fair.

The iPod Touch is a different animal, as you say, because
Apple innovated whereas Microsoft copied and played me
too.

There again, I hope MS does stay in the Zune business and
really does innovate so that Apple is pushed to the limit to
innovate further. That way we all win.
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Nope
markbn 12th Jan 2009
Nope, that was not what I was saying. What I said is
that certain Zune models has some better features than
certain iPod models. The one talking about "catch up"
was the other guy.

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No... I think they should be comparing latest
offerings with
latest offerings. The Zune 80/120 should be compared
with the iPod Touch as it is Microsoft's latest
offering and
the flag ship of their PMP range, as the iPod Touch is
Apple's. Other than capacity, I wonder how it would
fair
==============

I am really sorry you lack certain reasoning skills:

>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think they should be comparing latest offerings with
latest offerings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>

The iPod classic the Zune was compared to is the most
recent iPod classic model. It's not a model from 4
years ago that is discontinues. That makes a PERFECTLY
valid comparison.


>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Zune 80/120 should be compared
with the iPod Touch as it is Microsoft's latest
offering and
the flag ship of their PMP range, as the iPod Touch is
Apple's. Other than capacity, I wonder how it would
fair
>>>>>>>>>>>>

PMP = portable media player

Let's see:

Contacts: media player?
Browser: media player?
Mail: media player?

What a fair comparison: "the Zune is a less good PMP
than the iPod touch because it does not have Mail"

Wow, did you graduate from Harvard?
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So?
CobraA1 12th Jan 2009
Oh, I'm sure Microsoft can tack on a FM Radio and a couple other things, but truth is, it's too late. They're playing a game of catch up.

. . . and the links you linked to are not convincing at all. One person called the iPod "stale," as if that were some sort of real reflection of market conditions. I give your links a 2/5 for their poorly subjective evaluations.

"iPod Touch is basically a different animal. It's no
longer just an 'MP3 player'. It's more like a PDA with
iPod software. "

Translation: It happened to cell phones and PDAs when the smart phone came out, and that was a success. Now it's happening to music players. People want devices that do everything.

Apple has been very good at knowing what their customers want and very good at marketing their products.
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So? --> Understand
markbn 12th Jan 2009
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Oh, I'm sure Microsoft can tack on a FM Radio and a couple
other things, but truth is, it's too late. They're playing
a game of catch up.
============

Adding things that the competition does not have is
playing catch up? I am sorry but I don't buy such
nonsense.

============
. . . and the links you linked to are not convincing at
all. One person called the iPod "stale," as if that were
some sort of real reflection of market conditions.
============

Oh, so the only criterion you use is market conditions?
Then I guess XBOX 360 with its RROD problem is BETTER than
PS3? Excuse me while I laugh

Besides, did you read all the scores? Live with this: Zune
has better sound than iPod classic. Isn't that a good
criterion for judging an "MP3 player"?

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I give your links a 2/5 for their poorly subjective
evaluations.
============

They were only examples. Please illuminate us with a much
better comparison according to you.

And with all due respect, some of those subjective
evaluations make more sense that the absurd conclusions
you reach.

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"iPod Touch is basically a different animal. It's no
longer just an 'MP3 player'. It's more like a PDA with
iPod software. "

Translation: It happened to cell phones and PDAs when the
smart phone came out, and that was a success. Now it's
happening to music players. People want devices that do
everything.
===========

So what? Is that we are talking about? If people want only
devices that do everything, then tell Steve Jobs that he
stop producing nanos and iPod classic. Sheesh, you are a
genius. (yes you did not mention "only" which makes your
comment even more nonsensical)

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Apple has been very good at knowing what their customers
want and very good at marketing their products.
===========

And this leaves us where? You claimed that MS was playing
catch up and I have shown evidence that contradicts that
claim.
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Um not you haven't.....
James Quinn 14th Jan 2009
The only "REAL" solid evidence is the position the iPod
continues to find itself in and the same for the Zune. See
despite your claims the people/consumer has spoken and
continues to do so. This year and next and so forth and so
on. Do you honestly see the Zune catching up to or
surpassing the iPod anytime soon? This is the inescapable
fact that throws all your claims into the abyss.

Pagan jim
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to what the other guy said. They are real. It does not
matter that you in your illusionary world believe that
what I said is in the abyss. That's not gonna work.

Do you see? You are the police of Apple. You are just
sick buddy. Time to visit your shrink!
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The Zune was a mistake.
Sleeper Service 12th Jan 2009
Too much of a 'me too' idea poorly executed and without the infrastructure to support it.

I have a Sansa Clip. Does me fine and I don't have to rely on any proprietary software.
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Maybe
markbn 12th Jan 2009
but at this point the only thing certain is that it
was "different" not a mistake. Time will tell, but
Zune is not doing that bad:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4370-6490_7-706-102.html?
tag=mid_container;pf_left_nav
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I think it was a mistake...
Sleeper Service 12th Jan 2009
...because MS didn't think through global distribution and a proper, easily usable music purchase plan. The hardware is actually pretty good from what I can tell.

The fact that the Zune still hasn't gone global suggests that it's not a success.
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Wrong
markbn Updated - 12th Jan 2009
iPod was wildly popular after two years? No. Does that
made it a mistake? No. But according to your rigged
logic the Zune is.

======
...because MS didn't think through global distribution
and a proper, easily usable music purchase plan
======

They already said they will launch the Zune I Europe
with the 3rd generation. Whether it will be true or
not it's a different thing, but that alone contradicts
what you said

======
The fact that the Zune still hasn't gone global
suggests that it's not a success.
======

It does not suggest that. There might be problems with
the record labels, for instance. You "conclusion" is
your mere opinion and it is not necessarily implied by
your premise.
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Really?
Sleeper Service 13th Jan 2009
We could argue this back and forth and yet here we are two years after launch with still only a local market and no effective global distribution mechanism.

Wishful thinking doesn't change that.
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No wishful thinking
markbn 13th Jan 2009
Just reality. I am sorry you prefer to be blind to it.
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So...
Sleeper Service Updated - 14th Jan 2009
...list the countries the Zune is currently available in through mainstream retail distribution.

Then we can determine what 'reality' looks like.
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Re: So..
markbn 16th Jan 2009
See, you have defined a criterion for success and you
demand that everybody abide by that.

I can define another criterion: do not answer posts
about Zune if you do not own and use one. See? That's
satisfying for me but it's not something you must
abide by if you do not want.

In the same way, your criterion for success for the
Zune is simply your own personal opinion and lacks any
merit and universal validity.

Do you understand now?
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The Zune is too little too late.
Bruizer 12th Jan 2009
In attempting to compete head to head, MS failed to
predict where the MP3 market is heading. The Zune 30
was basically a warmed up Toshiba and it competed with
an 18 month old iPod at the time. Not good.

With the second generation, MS's flag ship competed with
iPod [old] and the flash players were near copies in form of
the previous years iPod Flash units.

Again, MS did not look to set market trends (something
very important in the MP3/PMP market space) but rather
tried to ride a falling wave of design.

They simply failed to compete with the new iPod, the iPod
Touch. MS included things like WiFi but would not let
people really use it (except to squirt things to other rare
Zune users) for good use until very recently. Now it might
be that the new Zune Mobile with WM 6.5 may start to
wake up the line, but I doubt it.

So while the Zune is actually pretty good hardware (even if
the Zune PC Software has lots to be desired. Though the
new software is far better than the disaster that was the
first version), it is far from a marketing success. At any
one time, there are typically between 9 and 15 iPod models
selling better than the best selling Zune.
which are so old technology according to you. By the
way, last year there were NEW models for both the nano
and the classic. That alone is enough to throw away
all what you say in your post. Unless of course that
you have double standards.

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the flash players were near copies in form of
the previous years iPod Flash units.
==========

Really? And explain to me why Jobs & Co decided that
the Zune flash landscape screen was a better design
that the garbage fatty nanos that preceded the Zune?

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They simply failed to compete with the new iPod, the
iPod Touch.
==========

This is just a myth. Apple's future is the iPhone and
that's it. Touch was released so that people who
dislike AT&T can use some sort of neutered iPhone, and
hey, it worked! But it won't get too far anyway.

You basically are suggesting that MS should release
its own PDA to match the Touch.

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At any one time, there are typically between 9 and 15
iPod models selling better than the best selling Zune.
=======

Hey genius, the iPod has MUCH more time in the market
than the Zune. The latter will not displace the former
overnight.

I find it funny that so many clowns like to repeat
canned Apple arguments all the time without using
their brains first. For instance, take the case of the
WiFi. Sharing music a good use of it, as it was
sync'ing wirelessly. Those were 1.0 features. Of
course you would not expect that on the first week
there would be 20 million Zune users, would you?
Idiots always repeat the same argument all the time:
"music sharing is useless because there are fewer Zune
users than iPod's", as though they were in the market
for the same amount of time. Sheesh

However something that is true is that MS is not
backing the Zune as passionately as they should. No
wonder they do not have all the momentum they should.
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The only time the Zune's move is when you have a 70%
markdown. Of course then you have all these clowns come
out and point to a 3 day blip in sells to prove how much
more popular the Zune is over the iPod/Sandisk models.

MS is trying to compete with an intrenched player (and
failing miserably BTW) by just matching the intrenched
players mid line offerings. They could do this if they
competed on price but they don't even do that.


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the flash players were near copies in form of
the previous years iPod Flash units.
==========

Really?

Yep really. Sorry to burst your sad little bubble.


This is just a myth. Apple's future is the iPhone and
that's it.


No, that is truth and the main reason why MS has
completely failed in the commercial market place with the
Zune. Apple has sold more iPod Touches in the last 2
months than MS has sold Zunes (as in all of their models)
in 2.5 years.


Touch was released so that people who
dislike AT&T can use some sort of neutered iPhone, and
hey, it worked! But it won't get too far anyway.


That level on incompetent reasoning shows why you have
no understanding of the market here and why your posts
are so funny to read.


Hey genius, the iPod has MUCH more time in the market
than the Zune. The latter will not displace the former
overnight.


Then why did the new platform of the iPod Touch over
take the Zune in no time flat as a popular MP3 player?
Could it be that the Zune simply fails to offer compelling
reasons to buy it?


For instance, take the case of the
WiFi. Sharing music a good use of it, as it was
sync'ing wirelessly. Those were 1.0 features.


What an idiot. Wireless syncing was a 2.0 feature. Use
your brain next time when you are ranting.


Idiots always repeat the same argument all the time:
"music sharing is useless because there are fewer Zune
users than iPod's"


and bigger idiots point to a feature as a reason to buy a
device even though the critical mass is not there to even
use it. It is a spec sheet item and nothing else. I have
seen 1 Zune in the wild. 1. That is sad. Sheesh
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============
MS is trying to compete with an intrenched player (and
failing miserably BTW) by just matching the intrenched
players mid line offerings.
============

They don't match that mid line, they are better.
However, the Touch is simply a neutered iPhone made to
convince everyone that Apple still cares about iPods.
It seems that some idiots were baited. According to
you, MS should release its own PDA to match the Touch
which should disappear as iPhone gains more market
penetration by, e.g., making partnerships with other
careers. MS won't commit to such stupid plan just
because you do not understand that the Touch is simply
a PDA and that the iPods are kept alive so that the
competition does not crush current Apple's marketshare
if they were to discontinue them.

============
They could do this if they
competed on price but they don't even do that.
============

Nobody buys something that is *not* good even with low
prices. Remember the Yugo.

============
Really?

Yep really. Sorry to burst your sad little bubble.
===========

After saying "really" I put a counterexample that sent
your stupid argument down the t..ilet. By removing it
and saying something out of context you just showed
everybody that your brain and your iPod shuffle have
something in common: the size.



=============
This is just a myth. Apple's future is the iPhone and
that's it.


No, that is truth and the main reason why MS has
completely failed in the commercial market place with
the Zune. Apple has sold more iPod Touches in the
last 2 months than MS has sold Zunes (as in all of
their models) in 2.5 years.
=============

I already told you a string reason for that. It was
the iPhone the one generated a lot of hype, not the
Touch. The latter was announced later to satisfy those
who do not want to be tied to AT&T. Use your brain.


=============
Hey genius, the iPod has MUCH more time in the market
than the Zune. The latter will not displace the former
overnight.


Then why did the new platform of the iPod Touch over
take the Zune in no time flat as a popular MP3 player?
Could it be that the Zune simply fails to offer
compelling reasons to buy it?
=============

See above. Then use your brain for something.


===============
For instance, take the case of the
WiFi. Sharing music a good use of it, as it was
sync'ing wirelessly. Those were 1.0 features.


What an idiot. Wireless syncing was a 2.0 feature. Use
your brain next time when you are ranting.
===============

Yep, it was a mistake, I meant that Zune 1st gen
players got that feature (with an update). But I won't
deny that mistake. However, notice the difference
between you and I. I made a mistake mentioning an
extra feature, not an illogical argument. You all the
time are throwing some stupid hypotheses and
conclusions that nobody but a fool would say

==============
Idiots always repeat the same argument all the time:
"music sharing is useless because there are fewer Zune
users than iPod's"


and bigger idiots point to a feature as a reason to
buy a device even though the critical mass is not
there to even use it. It is a spec sheet item and
nothing else.
==============

I did not say 'compelling'. Finish high school clown.

Also, according to you, when Zune reaches, say, 10
million users then wireless sharing would be a
compelling reason. Right? Well, thanks for saying it's
a good feature and not "WiFi but would not let people
really use it". You go on saying: "except to squirt
things to other **rare** Zune users. Should MS add
such a feature when there are 10 or more million
users?? Sheesh, you must have a nano brain.


===============
I have seen 1 Zune in the wild. 1. That is sad. Sheesh
===============

So let's see. An mental handicapped person with the
nick "Bruizer" have seen only ONE zune in the wild.
And the conclusion about that is what exactly? That
you live inside your mon's basement with your iPod?
I never saw one in the wild.

And because of the heavy traffic congestion in Europe i commute for several hours a day, instead of driving by car.

I mainly see ipods and telephones being used as mp3 players.
Small detail, don't ya think?
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A 54% drop in sales. Ouch.
Bruizer 24th Jan 2009
Zune sales down 54% over the previous year while iPod sales (and
that includes the very popular Touch models) increased a bit
in a serious economic down-turn.

Now you may read what I wrote with an open mind.

It is not that the Zune is a bad product it is that MS failed to
compete with it.
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As one of the few British zune users I have to say yes, I would care. The zune is a brilliant piece of hardware, sure the 30 had it's problems but it was still a great device. If MS decided to go worldwide with the Zune then perhaps they'd have more success, from what I know Apple's reality distortion field is strongest in the states. Sure here everybody uses an iPod but I know that a lot of them feel they have no other choice- it's just a shame MS didn't release it here before the iPhone, now everybody will be expecting something more.
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Apple = Reality Distortion
TallTomD 14th Jan 2009
What a brilliant phrase to use when describing Apple and their marketing! As you've said, the Zune is (in my opinion) a superior piece of hardware, with more features, and a better interface than the iPod. I happen to also like the Zune software much more than the evil iTunes. I'm in IT, so everybody and their brother wants me to fix their PC. You wouldn't believe how many people have problems with iTunes and the fact that iTunes just brings their PC to a crawl.

If Microsoft could master marketing the way that Apple has then we would all own Zunes instead of iPods.
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Cesar from Zune
CesarATZune 12th Jan 2009
Hi folks,

Cesar from Zuneinsider.com here -

In answer to the question from this post: Yes. We are going to remain in the first party hardware business, along with bringing Zune software services onto more screens and devices.
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Thank You For Your Comments
DannyO_0x98 12th Jan 2009
I mean that sincerely.

If I'm reading it right, the key, core question is will there be
continued support for the Zune and not will Microsoft remain in
the first party hardware business. Which was the other point of
Ms. Foley's post, that reporters and consumers asking simple
questions gets these market-speak drenched, vague answers.

My take, as an Apple consumer and iPod user, is if it's
profitable, then, yes, stay in the Zune business. If it isn't, get
out or price it to be profitable. It does have its fans. One can
make a good business without being number 1.
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Good news - thanks
DaveN_MVP 12th Jan 2009
Having Zune available in Windows Mobile, in the car, or wherever else would be a great bonus, but not enough that I'd ever be happy to give up my Zune. For my primary player, I don't want a device with limited storage like a phone. I need to be able to sync all my music to the device, plus some podcasts and maybe a movie or two.
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Thank you, Cesar
TheWerewolf 12th Jan 2009
As a long time Zune fan (I still use my chocolate/mint 30) I'm glad MS is sticking it out with the Zune ecology.

I'm seeing more and more people with them and they do like their Zunes. I've own an iPod - I own an iPhone, but I still prefer my Zune's UI for media playing.

It actually makes sense - unlike the other two.
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Thanks for clearing that up..
silent.griffin 12th Jan 2009
I think the Zune bug that happened last New Years eve plus the no Zune-related announcement on CES makes us Zune fans a little worried.

But I believe that Zune has already reached a critical mass fan base. It has also won a lot of positive reviews with its lates firmware.
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A tsunami is coming straight at cosumer market
LBiege Updated - 12th Jan 2009
With too many people dealing w/ a financial crisis, I don't think a whole lot of them can still afford these expensive gadgets, be in cellphones or music players. These companies will be forced to stop making them or at least slow it down.
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or they can simply lower
frgough 12th Jan 2009
their prices. That happens, too during economic recessions. Prices come down.

Of course, that assumes you don't have socialist morons giving speeches about how only government can fix economic crises....oh, wait. Too late. 56% of you already voted for one.
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LBiege Updated - 12th Jan 2009
It's not just the election. The day both McCain and Obama voted for bailout, the nation's fate was doomed for the next 4 years at least.

I can understand why Obama voted for it, b/c that's what left-wing chickens do. What I don't get is why both Bush and McCain also did it. Whatever happened to true capitalism belief? The two fake conservatives, along with the other house / senate chickens, had their nerve shot and we have to bear the Wall St. and Detroit leeches. Yikes. 2012 couldn't come fast enough.
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A Grain of Salt 12th Jan 2009
If your your government had have shown more leadership
over big business with tighter financial controls we
probably wouldn't be in this mess now. The countries that
are riding the turbulence better are those that have better
controls and exercise those controls. Pure capitalism is
dead, pure socialism is dead; let's have a system that that
combines the best of both. People can still get rich with
hard work and not risk bringing down economies and less
well of people are protected without being too much of a
burden on society. That's what governments should be
aspiring to do.
Magic Eight Ball says: Future not so bright

Too many MP3 players on the market. Even Apple has moved more into broad music distribution as Ipod sales are flat. Unless they make them cheaper and better, I'm not sure there will be a market.
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RE: Yes or no: Is Microsoft going to keep making Zunes?
dfwekrdfe91-24353650913509681072530342872429 11th Nov
hjpagw,good post!

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