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Do we still need a standalone GPS device?

By | February 9, 2010, 11:10am PST

I’m a directionally challenged individual. As a result, I’ve been using a GPS since it was first offered. Throughout the years, though, I’ve graduated to using my mobile phone more for my GPS-related activities, including using the iPhone to find my car on a rainy night.

It used to be that a standalone GPS was still more full-featured than its phone-based competitor, but thanks to recent offerings from Google, Nokia and others, there isn’t much of a differentiator left.

First off, let’s take a look at price. You can pick up a pretty full featured GPS for under $100 these days. With that comes the ability to get the latest maps downloaded to your device, and in some cases traffic alerts. Compare that with what’s being offered by Nokia in its Ovi Maps and navigation, which offers turn-by-turn directions, weather, traffic, pedestrian walking mode, and more, even in offline mode. More features and best of all, Nokia’s offering is now free on approximately 12 smartphones.

Of course, the iPhone also ships with free Google Maps, which can do turn-by-turn and some other features, but it doesn’t speak aloud to you, whereas Google’s Android does and is offered on a number of Droid phones today for free.

If you want to pay a little bit of money, there are plenty of Apps on the iPhone, Android and other smartphones to choose from, including my favorite, AT&T Navigator, which can be yours for $9.95 a month on the iPhone.

For me, the biggest benefit to any GPS program is the ability to get the latest maps and traffic alerts with ease. With constantly connected devices like mobile phones, it’s a no-brainer to use that as a primary GPS navigation tool.

Many years ago, before Bluetooth was common in cars, I was treated to a demo at Microsoft where the car was using the user’s mobile phone to grab the latest information from the web and speak it aloud to the driver. This included turn-by-turn directions, weather, and more. At the time it was definitely a glimpse into the future, but now it’s commonplace on a mobile phone. However, most built-in GPS devices inside of the car are still disconnected from the world.

How long before we can all enjoy full featured GPS navigation for free? I think we’re less than a year away on the mobile phone front, but it’s going to take a bit longer to completely replace the standalone GPS in the car. For example, recently I was sent an offer to update the GPS in my wife’s car. It was a bit under $200 and I debated about the need to get the update, given the reasons I stated above. In the end, though, since the device is already in the car, and is something that my wife uses on a regular basis, it paid to upgrade.

In the future will we no longer have a dedicated GPS in our car and instead have a choice of docking stations for our phone of choice? Or will we see in-car GPS systems start offering things that its mobile phone competitors can’t? Share your thoughts below.

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With more than a decade of mobile, Internet and wireless experience, Joel specializes in taking existing brands, technologies and services into the mobile and wireless space. Joel is currently serving as the Managing Director of Cronk Software, Inc., a company he founded to offer full-service, end-to-end mobile strategy, design and development services.

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Talkback Most Recent of 33 Talkback(s)

  • ZDNet Gravatar
    Bruizer
    9th Feb 2010
  • The built-in display in my car is awesome
    But I still carry a portable GPS with me when I travel. I'm still waiting for a useable solution on a cellphone, the one on my LG Verizon phone sucks and it is ridiculously expensive to use.

    2GB flash chips are minuscule and cheap, they would be no problem to integrate into the phone and keep good maps and databases loaded for instant access by the GPS app. But phone companies want the extra revenue stream and fight tooth and nail to keep out economical technical solutions that benefit the customer.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    terry flores
    9th Feb 2010
  • RE: Do we still need a standalone GPS device?
    i think the real growth will be in smart gps software apps like http://www.telogis.com/solutions/mobile/ that use gps tracking in any device (phone or standalone) to efficiently coordinate staff on the move
    ZDNet Gravatar
    gpssystems
    9th Feb 2010
  • RE: Do we still need a standalone GPS device?
    Yes... but only if you are a "road warrior" constantly
    driving in unfamiliar areas.

    Phones will need to effectively multi-task so you don't
    miss a turn when a call comes in. In the future cars will
    have a large screen for viewing/touch control and your
    smart phone will provide the brains.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    jim.mitchel
    9th Feb 2010
  • RE: Do we still need a standalone GPS device?
    yes but only if you are a "road warrior" constantly on
    the road and in unfamiliar areas.

    Phones will need to effectively multi-task so you don't
    miss a turn while talking.

    Finally cars will provide large screens for smart phones
    to connect to. They will provide the brains for all the
    connected functionality.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    jim.mitchel
    9th Feb 2010
  • Price is important for a lot of people
    "First off, let?s take a look at price."

    Yes, let's - price is indeed important for a lot of people. How much is a cell phone and 2 years for a data plan vs a new GPS device?

    In addition, I haven't tested a GPS enabled phone, but I do worry about how it handles when you're out of range of any cell towers.

    A big advantage of GPS is locally stored maps - even if you go out of the range of any cell tower, it won't care. As long as it can get a signal from a satellite (which is far more coverage than ANY cell network in the nation!), it's happy.

    "Many years ago, before Bluetooth was common in cars"

    Even with newer models having Bluetooth, it'll take about 10 years before it's in pretty much every vehicle. Gotta account for the fact that people don't buy cars on a whim.

    Well, maybe you do. But you're an exception, not the rule. It takes about 10 years for new technologies to penetrate the automotive market. Like it or not, cars have a far longer upgrade cycle than computers.

    "How long before we can all enjoy full featured GPS navigation for free?"

    At about the same time when smart phones are given out as free samplers in Wal-Mart and feature unlimited data plans for free.

    "For example, recently I was sent an offer to update the GPS in my wife?s car. It was a bit under $200"

    $200 for an upgrade? Yuck. TomTom is much cheaper.

    "Or will we see in-car GPS systems start offering things that its mobile phone competitors can?t?"

    They already do. Maps that work in most of Idaho and Northern Canada. The Rockies can be a challenge for cell coverage as well. Have you tried to use a cell phone in some of the back roads of Nevada and Utah?

    The point is, cell phone coverage, while greatly improved in recent years, still isn't up to par with other technologies. Cells are still lagging behind in coverage.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    CobraA1
    9th Feb 2010
  • Locally stored maps are critical
    Try driving in the mountains where cell coverage is spotty. No cell coverage = no map. Having the most recent map updates available is great, but having any map so navigation can continue is much more important. Even in areas with decent cell coverage, downloading maps when scrolling across a broad area can be frustratingly slow.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    crapwonk
    10th Feb 2010
  • A(lmost)-GPS is not...
    ...real satellite GPS. And it is not global.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Feldwebel Wolfenstool
    9th Feb 2010
  • In auto GPS, size matters
    It is not the features that cannot be duplicated by a phone, but the screen size is too small and is positively dangerous.

    We have enough problems with people texting and telephoning while driving, but squinting to read a phone gps device is just as dangerous. They should be banned for use in cars.

    That does not mean that we might not get cheaper devices. Or that the iPad might not make an ideal GPS.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    jorjitop
    9th Feb 2010
  • RE: Do we still need a standalone GPS device?
    Yes, we absolutely need standalone GPS devices. A standalone offers many advantages over its mobile phone counterpart. A standalone GPS can be easily hung on the dashboard or windshield, has audible alerts and turn by turn directions that are clear. You can add points of interest to the GPS. And at a cost of less than $100 it is a great value.

    Lets look at the troubles with a mobile phone for GPS. Speakerphone mode is absolutely terrible, scratchy voice and that is assuming you can make out what the voice is saying at all. You can't hang a mobile phone on the dashboard and I refuse to get in a vehicle with anyone who is holding one in their hand staring at it while they drive. That is an accident waiting to happen. No turn by turn directions spoken out loud. Battery life will be drained by the end of your trip, especially if you are going on a 3+ hour drive. And there is an ongoing $100 fee for the data plan on the phone and that doesn't include the $300 you have to pay for the device itself.

    I think the choice is pretty clear on which one you should use.
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    Loverock Davidson
    9th Feb 2010
  • Well my cell phone has spoken turn by turn...
    directions and there is even an app out there to have downloaded maps so the cell tower issue goes away.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    mrlinux1@...
    10th Feb 2010
  • I didn't need a data plan...
    to use my Garmin nuvi 275 while driving across Norway.

    Do I need a standalone GPS? Maybe not, but I certainly like having one.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    msalzberg
    9th Feb 2010
  • RE: Do we still need a standalone GPS device?
    Joe Evans: Hide your head in shame for brazenly trying to promote us into paying much more for much less.

    As so often happens on ZDNet, the Talkbacks make a lot more sense than the blog. Without them, the web site would become known for promotional propaganda. As it is, the Talkbacks provide honest information that offsets the blogs, at least somewhat.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    nikacat
    9th Feb 2010
  • Unless the reception dramatically improves it will not happen.
    Sure you can use a docking station from TomTom with your
    iphone, you can open your roof or wave your phone through
    an open window. As long as the reception does not approve
    it is useless altogether. And for those who have used an
    build in GPS in the car's dashboard with an decent big display
    , they will never go for a standalone small screen system. it
    is telling the brain surgeon that he can view a scan on a
    mobile phone because it has the capability.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    rhon@...
    10th Feb 2010
  • RE: Do we still need a standalone GPS device?
    you're joking, I have a 190? nokia 5800 with offline maps, GPS turn-by-turn navigation with voice instructions, easy map updates & point of interest via OVI Maps (wifi or PC, if you don't want to pay for data), (relatively) big touch screen, phone holder on the dashboard, car-charger. no need for more happy
    in total, tha makes 0? additional to the phone cost

    clopotel
    ZDNet Gravatar
    clopotel
    10th Feb 2010

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