If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
Summary: There is a lot to like about webOS, but it is not the perfect mobile OS and neither Palm or HP can seem to launch it on modern hardware.
It's a bit amusing to read on Twitter and around the web all of the people stating that webOS is the best mobile operating system and yet we see that HP is giving up on the hardware and leaving the OS in uncertainty. I understand that there are strong feelings about HP's strategy and agree with many that HP is giving in too soon. While I think webOS does have many strengths, I am not sold that it is the best mobile operating system and think if it really was then we would have seen some success with it over the last couple of years.
We were all quite enthusiastic back during CES 2009 when Palm announced webOS and the Palm Pre, but Palm took their time getting their first Pre out to consumers and then just released it on Sprint to start. Palm only released a few webOS-powered phones and in my opinion the hardware was sub-par and did not match the power and fluidity of the OS.
I think webOS is awesome for the Synergy support with multiple cloud and online service integration, is killer at multi-tasking (unless you get too many cards open when it crashes), has an excellent universal search client in Just Type, makes enjoying photos easy with service integration (such as Facebook), is a messaging powerhouse, and the apps that it does have are generally of good quality.
However, Palm used to be the king of personal information management (PIM) and took a few steps back with webOS when they left their roots and just provided basic calendar, contacts, and task support with no Office editing or creation support. I wrote a post on the weakness of the Palm webOS Calendar app in 2009 and unfortunately those same issues are present today in the Calendar. I can't believe we still don't see an Agenda view on webOS devices and it is discouraging to see Palm/HP do so well with service integration and then leave the basics behind.
I also found webOS to lag at times and as James pointed out new users need to understand the device will likely be slow and unresponsive for a couple of days as all of the cloud services sync up and get configured on the TouchPad. This should have been fixed by Palm/HP or a notice made to new users during the setup process.
We see something near 7,000 apps for webOS after 2+ years while Windows Phone 7 is nearing 30,000 and even RIM has 15,000+ for BlackBerry smartphones. webOS had a LOT of potential, but after 2+ years this potential was never fully realized and may be left to the enthusiast community to carry the torch. Palm/HP never even really registered on any smartphone market share data, except to fall into the Other category. There was quite a community for the Newton back in the day and the TouchPad may suffer the same fate now that HP dropped it.
I will keep my TouchPad around (I paid $325 for it from a Craigslist seller back when that was a steal right before the prices dropped like a rock) and likely give it to my daughters to use for web browsing, Facebook usage, and Angry Birds since that is just about all it is good for now that HP is backing down from the platform.
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RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
not surprised
slow to boot up!
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
1.) Steve Jobs will have to let you access the secret sauce of the iPhone iPad BIOS on the chips running on them so a developer can even make a replacement / alternative iOS run on them. Fat chance that is ever going to happen.
2.) Also Rans. Nobody is every going to capture the sizzle of Apple's iOS. Remember the BeOS (BeBox Operating System) for the Macintosh? This failed, too. IBM's OS WARP? Another failure.
Hello... McFly..... is anybody in there?
Success + Failure Leave Clues. So sayeth great life coach guru, --Anthony Robbins.
We live in a society today where there are (2) operating systems for Apple iDevices, then there's Android for Motorola powered SmartPhones. And since Google has bought Motorola, they now control the chips, hardware and the Operating System.
It remains doubtful that Google or Apple will ever open up the BIOs on the chips that let 3rd party developers ever develop a replacement OS for their iDevices. Because then there is too much confusion over hardware and operating systems.
I buy an iPhone or iPad and I have to CHOOSE between genuine Apple iOS or some "me-too, BeBox BeOS" sort of LOOKS like Apple iOS?
I doubt this will ever happen.
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
Throughout our history what we did was thrive on Mediocracy. We don't need best stuff, what we needed is passible "good enough stuffs" for the most of the time.
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
I think 'mediocracy' is a FANTASTIC word! From Oxford's English Dictionary: Government by the mediocre; a system within which mediocrity is rewarded.
And if it WASN'T on OED, then it SHOULD have been!
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
I don't buy the assumption of the article
There is really no evidence to support that assumption, in fact the history of consumer electronics products is the history of technologically superior products being trounced by less advanced competitors......it is easy to provide examples.
VHS beat out the technogically superior Beta format.
The Colecovision and Intellivision game consoles were light years ahead of the Atari 2600.
The original Nintendo Entertainment System beat the technologically superior Sega Master System.
Tivo has a tiny market share compared to lesser DVR brands.
Hell, it's a cliche that iPods have fewer features and options than just about any other brand of Mp3 player.
I could go on and on. If anything, it is difficult to find examples of where a technologically superior product actually WON.
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
Some say the same about OS X?
Matthew... how long you been doing this gig??
There are virtually no apps for it.. virtually no eccosytem.. it's not 2007 or 2010 anymore.. you can't start with no eccosytem.. those days are over.. for a tablet or phone to succeed it needs to have everything in place on day one.. it is competing with the iPad/iPhone of today.. why should anyone buy a subpar experience.. and it's really about experience not a device.. the device is your ticket to an eccosystem and an experience.. that's what apple is selling.. that's how they sell it.. people understand what they get with iOS.. almost everyone has and iPod of some sort, so almost everyone is invested in iTunes eccosystem to at least the extent already.. Apple has a name for quality and ease of use.. HP and android doesn't have that, iPads are known as the real thing.. TouchPads and Android Tabs are looked at as cheap knockoff and they cost the same so why not spend the $50 extra and get the real thing instead of the RC Cola imitation?
this isn't rocket science here.. it's not the device.. it's the experience.. WebOS's is vastly inferior to iOS's.. that's why it doesn't sell..
we know the price tag that will get these non-iPads to sell in big number.. $99 and the good thing is the device doesn't need to match the iPad in every respect.. people know this is a dead end product and they won't get the same sort of use they will get from an iPad and still went for it.. hell i ordered one.. it surfs the net, it does email, it plays media, even with no future upgrades it's worth $100.. non-iPads need to be priced sub $200 to sell above that.. not going to happen in big number.. they need get realistic.. dumb down the devices and sell them at a reasonable price.. sub $200.. people will go for that.. Apple has the deluxe $500+ tablet market sewn up.. going head to head there is a death wish.. just ask HP..
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
So how do you feel about United using 11,000 "toys" or the latest "Fad" to get you safely from point A to point B.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/united-continental-deploys-11000-ipads-under-apples-b2b-app-store-program/55790
Don't blink, technology just might leave you behind.
No one cares about the crap you just barfed out there...
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
RE: If webOS is the perfect mobile OS, why can't it succeed?
OS, Apps and Hype are three necessary ingredients. Look at WP7 now. It is great OS, many apps are available but there is no hype. No hype - no sales. Does not matter how good it is. People just do not care.