Mobius Seattle 2008; First impressions of the HTC Advantage X7510

Mobius Seattle 2008; First impressions of the HTC Advantage X7510

Summary: As I stated in my Mobius Seattle 2008 Day one post eric lin from HTC gave each one of the attendees the new HTC Advantage 7510 device. These may not come to the U.S. due to Qualcomm import issues, but you will be able to pick them up from U.S. importers in the next few months. My most popular post from 2007 was my full review of the HTC Advantage 7501 and to this day it remains one of my most used and functional devices. I think there is a user profile for a device like this and someone like me that commutes 2+ hours a day and travels is the perfect target market. The HTC Advantage 7510 builds on an already great device and I was ecstatic to receive one to evaluate.

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As I stated in my Mobius Seattle 2008 Day one post eric lin from HTC gave each one of the attendees the new HTC Advantage 7510 device. These may not come to the U.S. due to Qualcomm import issues, but you will be able to pick them up from U.S. importers in the next few months. My most popular post from 2007 was my full review of the HTC Advantage 7501 and to this day it remains one of my most used and functional devices. I think there is a user profile for a device like this and someone like me that commutes 2+ hours a day and travels is the perfect target market. The HTC Advantage 7510 builds on an already great device and I was ecstatic to receive one to evaluate.

Me and some ADvantage devices

Thanks to Judie at Gear Diary for taking and sharing this shot of me with 4 Advantage devices (3 new) and my REDFLY.

First impressions of the HTC Advantage X7510

The most notable difference in the newer model is the new haptic feedback keyboard. The new keys are larger and flatter than the old keys, but the key makes a bloop sound and vibrates when pressed. I found a way to turn off the sound, but that seems to also turn off the vibration so I will have to look around a bit more for this setting. The new keyboard does sort of work on the old Advantage, but the keys are still mapped to the old keyboard where there was no dedicated number row like there is now so it really is not usable. unless you have an older Advantage sitting right next to you.Close up of the keyboard

Old and New Advantage

This device is also all black, unlike the silver 7510 I saw at Mobile World Congress from T-Mobile. I also noticed that the great joystick (front left of the display) is now gone, there are no buttons on the left side (there were two for OK and Start), and there is no communications manager button on the right side. There does not seem to be as many shortcuts on the new keyboard and there is no soft keys on the keyboard so I am not sold that the new keyboard is better yet.

The 7510 has 16GB of flash while the 7501 had an 8GB microdrive. There is still the same miniSD card slot and same internals (624MHz processor, 128MB RAM, 256MB ROM) and great VGA display.

The device package also includes the same high quality leather case with a new cutout on the back so you can actually use the "Windows Sideshow" like status window when the device is closed. HTC also threw in the 4-in-1 cable that I paid US$50 for as an accessory last time. This cable and other pieces come in a nice carrying case too.

Case and gear

Although not really usable in the U.S., there is a front facing camera for video conferencing and the same 3 megapixel rear camera. The device comes with cool business card recognition software so you can take a photo of a card and import that into your contacts. GPS is still included too.

Case contents

The device does have Windows Mobile 6.1 with the awesome Opera Mobile 9.5 and accelerometer support (auto rotates the display as the device rotates). Threaded SMS is also included with this update.

US HSDPA with AT&T is supported and the new HTC Advantage 7510 is quite impressive. I loaded up RealVGA and am able to run it in higher resolution and connect it with the REDFLY, which is where I typed up this blog post.

I plan to write up another full review after I have had a couple of weeks with the device, but the only issue that doesn't convince me it is better out of the box is the keyboard.

Topics: HTC, Hardware, Mobility

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  • Advantage Comments

    Matt, great preview of the new Advantage. I love my 7501, but I wish it were thinner and lighter. Not that it's huge, especially compared to a UMPC, but it's not easy to put into your pants pocket. It weighs 12.6 oz and it's .63" thick. By comparison the Dell Axim x51v weighs 6 oz and is .47" thick. If they could get the thickness to .5" and the weight to, say, 9 oz, that would help.

    I wish it utilized SDHC instead of miniSDHC. I wish it had two SDHC slots. Memory is king.

    I'm waiting for someone to come up with a way for a user to upgrade the hard-drive. I want to add a hard-drive that's, say, 80GB.

    I personally think the keyboard is not usable. It's too wide for thumb-typing and too narrow for conventional typing. They need a keyboard that's like the old, Psion. It needs to be far wider. If they can't do that, then they should make a kb like my wife's Blackberry Curve. That one is perfect for thumb typing. I use ZoomBoard, which is quite good, so my kb stays in the desk drawer.

    Thanks again for your preview.
    Steve Laser
    stevenator65@...
  • RE: Mobius Seattle 2008; First impressions of the HTC Advantage X7510

    After reading these reviews I have ordered one. Don't know
    when it will be in stock but got one on order anyway. I
    have used a variety of different cell phones and PDA's over
    the years including the most recent blackberrys. I was
    going to get the iPhone this summer when it comes to
    Canada but have decided I like the interface, speed etc of
    my 3G HTC TyTII. The onle thing that bothers me is the
    small screen so i am hoping the Advantage will give me
    the screen size I want. Question though, the case that
    comes with it, does it have belt loops as I would just use a
    jawbone for cell use.
    canlogic
    • No belt loop

      The nice leather case wraps around the device to offer some protection, but there are no belt loops or anyway to attach it to your belt. I can't imagine anyone actually carrying this mounted on a belt and don't know if such a case exists. It is best to carry in your hand, gear bag, or coat pocket.
      palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller)
      • Ok thanks

        I guess it would be a bit large for a belt loop although I have
        larger devices like my Sony ux91 that has a belt loop on its
        pouch. One thing I never thought of can you make or receive
        a call while on the internet?
        canlogic
        • Calls and surfing

          You must have a bigger belt than I do :)

          The device works with the AT&T 3G network here in the U.S. and so you can make and receive calls while surfing.
          palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller)
  • RE: Mobius Seattle 2008; First impressions of the HTC Advantage X7510

    great preview, thanks. what chipset is it that causes the import issue, and how different is it from the x7501?
    kramerica
    • Qualcomm vs. Broadcom

      Qualcomm is having issues with Broadcom and isn't allowed to bring in devices with the technology that Broadcom claims is theirs unless royalties are paid and other concessions are made. Check out the latest article here, http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN0262822220080102

      I am pretty sure that the Advantage X7501 uses the same chipset, but it was made available last year before Qualcomm last in the courts so it was able to sell devices with the chips in 2007.
      palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller)
  • RE: Mobius Seattle 2008; First impressions of the HTC Advantage X7510

    Thanks for the brief review, hope to see the extensive one soon. It would be nice if you could compare the old X7500 and the new X7510 in you review.

    Does the accelerometer work well on the X7510? Does it support 3rd party apps or is it limited to the built-in apps?

    I noticed the absence of special keyboard keys for the soft keys, phone buttons, etc... is there a way to add functionality to the keyboard so we can launch certain apps without touching the screen?
    cktlcmd