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You almost had us Steve, but the new iPhone 3G models comparison price is at least $160 higher than existing iPhones

By | June 9, 2008, 4:38pm PDT

Summary: Steve Jobs had me praising the huge price drop of the iPhone 3G and thinking this was one of the few significant differences in this latest generation iPhone (others being battery life, integrated GPS, and new software). However, he wasn’t telling the whole story when he stated they would be priced at US$199 and US$299 for the 8GB and 16GB models, respectively. See, after the AT&T pricing plans were posted we see these prices are actually subsidized prices and AT&T is making up for the difference by charging an additional US$10/month for data access. This works out to US$240 for the 2-year obligated contract, thus the actual prices we should be comparing to the existing iPhone models are US$439 and US$539. The existing iPhones are US$399 for the 8GB model and US$499 for the 16GB model so these new iPhones are actually US$40 more than the existing models, when you compare apples to apples.

You almost had us Steve, but the new iPhone 3G models are priced $40 higher than existing iPhonesI have to admit the reality distortion field that Steve Jobs can generate is very powerful and he even had me praising the huge apparent price drop of the iPhone 3G and thinking this was one of the few significant differences in this latest generation iPhone (others being battery life, integrated GPS, and new software). However, he wasn’t telling the whole story when he stated they would be priced at US$199 and US$299 for the 8GB and 16GB models, respectively. See, after the AT&T pricing plans were posted we see these prices are actually subsidized prices and AT&T is making up for the difference by charging an additional US$10/month for data access. This works out to US$240 for the 2-year obligated contract, thus the actual prices we should be comparing to the existing iPhone models are US$439 and US$539. The existing iPhones are US$399 for the 8GB model and US$499 for the 16GB model so these new iPhones are actually US$40 more than the existing models, when you compare apples to apples. We also now know that no text messages are included in the data plan so you will have to add another US$5/month for 200 messages to equal what you had with the first generation iPhone. This works out to US$360 for the 2-year obligated contract, thus the actual prices we should be comparing to the existing iPhone models are US$559 and US$659. The existing iPhones are US$399 for the 8GB model and US$499 for the 16GB model so these new iPhones, costs adjusted to match plans, are actually US$160 more than the existing models, when you compare apples to apples.

Actually, if you keep using AT&T after the 2 year contract is up then the price increase rises US$10/month every month after 24 months so the price difference may end up being much higher than US$40 US$160 too.

It remains to be seen how other countries will or will not subsidize and make up for the cost of the iPhone in their respective countries, but I guess we’ll see everything revealed leading up to the July 11th availability.

These prices are still much less than the US$599 I paid for the 8GB iPhone last year and they may be a good deal for new buyers. I am not sure there is a compelling need for existing owners to upgrade though and I plan to wait and see what some of the other details are before I make my purchase decision on way or the other.

UPDATE: Check out this interview that Om Malik had with AT&T’s Mobility Chief and you will see that your monthly fees will rise even more with the new iPhone if you ever want to send a text message. (Thanks again Kevin.) No text messages are included with the new US$69.99/month minimum monthly voice and data plan as quoted below. Wow, the news just keeps getting better, huh?

OM: Has there been a change in the cost of data plans?
RDLV: The data plans are different on the 3G iPhone versus the 2G iPhone. Consumers will pay $30 a month every month, while enterprises will pay $45 a month. This is what you pay us on other PDA devices such as Blackberry Curve. The SMS messages are not bundled anymore, and you pay for what you want. Again the prices are based on what you buy.

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Matthew Miller

Matthew Miller is an avid mobile device enthusiast who works during the day as a professional naval architect in Seattle. He is one of three hosts on the MobileTechRoundup podcast and runs the Nokia Experts website. Matthew started using mobile devices in 1997 with a US Robotics Pilot 1000 and has owned over 90 different devices running Palm, Linux, Symbian, Newton, BlackBerry, Mac OS X (iPhone), Google Android, and Windows Mobile operating systems. His current collection includes a Nokia N85, Nokia E71, Nokia 5800, Nokia N810, Apple iPhone, HTC Advantage, T-Mobile G1, Palm Treo Pro, HTC Fuze, MSI Wind, MacBook Pro, and many more, along with tons of accessories and classic devices like the Apple Newton MessagePad 2100 and Sony CLIE UX50. Matthew co-authored Master Visually Windows Mobile 2003, was a member of the Nokia Nseries Blogger relations program, and is a member of the invite-only Microsoft Mobius mobile device evangelist group. He can be found on various discussion forums under the user name of "palmsolo".

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Sorry, but no deal!
Masari.Jones Updated - 22nd Jul 2008
AT&T's rate plans are the sole reason I have decided not to purchase the iPhone 3G. I was so looking forward to getting the new iPhone, but when I saw how much AT&T was going to screw, I mean charge, customers I decided I would stick with Sprint.

Consider this: $69.99 with Sprints gets you 450 anytime minutes and unlimited everything else. Unlimited nights & weekends, unlimited data, and unlimited text messaging. A similar plan on AT&T will cost you at least $25 more per month.

I love the new iPhone, but not enough to get screwed every month by AT&T. I wish they would have given customers the option to purchase the phone outright and go with a plan similar to the last iPhone, or the subsidized plan. But then again, it's never about what's best for the customer.
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You mean Apple lied?
NonZealot 9th Jun 2008
Wow, what a shocker. No, really. I'm shocked. wink
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I don't think there were lies...
palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller) 9th Jun 2008
I just don't think the entire story was told. I was wondering why there was no mention of AT&T in the keynote at all like there I seemed to remember from last year and now it makes much more sense.

People were all over me for stating that the Palm Centro was priced at US$99 (the subsidized, contract price), but I don't see those same people jumping all over Apple this time.
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You mean..
Madjia 9th Jun 2008
... you have to pay the phone company more to use their faster network? Who would have thought!

It's not Apple charging more money for the plans, they don't even see that extra money, it's AT&T.
While it may look more expensive compared to the current
iPhone, it doesn't tell the whole story.

AT&T charges $20 a month for unlimited data for
smartphones. However, they charge $30 for PDAs.

So the monthly fee is the same as the Tilt, Blackberries,
Blackjacks, etc.
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Yeah, but we don't care.
frgough 9th Jun 2008
Because it's Apple. So we're going to b*tch that AT&T dares
charge us the same unlimited data rate as for other phones
because, well, because when I do creative Million Man math, it
means I paid more for my iPhone. Even though I usually pay more
for data for other smart phones. But, those aren't Apple phones,
so I didn't get screwed.

And by the way, 2+2 = 5.
Retired folks, students, ordinary people are being ghettoized by the astounding greed of the digital suppliers. Do the math, Monthly $70 for the Iphone (with data), $60 for comcast cable internet, about 50 for HDTV, oh yes, the landline maybe 40 with taxes, Let's see that comes to an astounding $220 per month. Dare we discuss the prices just to get the hardware... As it is, without a fast connection to the internet, we would be like a sharecropper slave...work, work see nothing at the end of the day, The internet has become a necessity.
Screw free enterprise, look at the vastly lower prices in the regulated part of the world. Revolt!!
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It depends really. I use an unlimited data plan (which includes 3G) for $15 from ATT and I use it with a variety of my devices (HTC Excalibur, HTC Kaiser, Samsung Blackjack). For me, this would be a 100% increase to get something I'm already being given.
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Those plans are insane...
BitTwiddler 10th Jun 2008
I will buy a personal cell phone the day the carriers get real with pricing, and quit treating data as an expensive little pet.
Um...Mr. Miller, I was paying 39.99 for a PDA connect plan until ATT decided to re-structure their data plans. Now AT&T has PDA personal plan which assumes you don't tether your device and is 30 bucks per month (EDGE OR 3G - it doesn't matter). So anyone with a PDA personal plan that gets an iPhone, the data portion of the plan will be the same.

What is the problem? I am still getting an iPhone for alot cheaper than an equivalent Windows Mobile smartphone.
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Just compare 1st gen to 2nd and disclose all costs
palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller) 10th Jun 2008
I have no problem with the Apple prices or AT&T fees, I just want people to know there is a huge difference in the pricing structure between the old and new iPhones and the new one is not as cheap as you may think or be led.

BTW, using the same subsidized price stated by Jobs you can get a Pantech Duo or Blackjack II for $100, Moto Q Global for $150 or Palm Treo 750 for $200 (all WM devices).
*****, *****, whine, whine -- let's squarely ignore the fact
that:

- you get better and faster service
- you get a better phone, IF you want it.
- every other carrier charges at least double for similar 3G
data plans.

The alternatives, if all you can do is bitching, are really
quite easy:

- don't get an iPhone 3G - you can remain on your old
plans.
- don't get/have an iPhone. Period. Clearly, there are much
better phones, and better plans around, so go with any of
them. Please.
- shut up!
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this is serious whining
lostarchitect 11th Jun 2008
the costs ARE disclosed. they are right there on AT&T's website. it's still cheaper than the $35 pda data plan as well. this is a total non issue.
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iPhoneInfused.com Unlock 3G iPhone
leo7068 29th Jun 2008
Don't worry about all the contracts and fees when you can simply avoid them all by unlocking the phone. Get free third party apps, games, and more with an unlock. All free to download, and made available by iPhoneInfused.com
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RE: You almost had us Steve
ol_pip 5th Jul 2008
Have you people ever heard of doing without? Trying to keep
up with ALL the 'Jones' is quite stupid. Wait another 5 or 10
years without your own personal need to 'jump onto that
bandwagon' and like all new things the dust will settle. Ever
think that trying to grab the latest is causing the prices for
it's demand? Stupid people.
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Hurray for Apple!
TWLKP76 10th Jul 2008
You don't have to be the first, you can wait and see if
anyone comes even close to quality and price.

I consider the $100 from Apple for my original iPhone a
gift for being a loyal Apple Customer. I've been buying
computers and peripheral equipment since '86 and have
occasionally been there for the newest and greatest but I
usually wait a year for the price break.

This is the first time I've heard of any company giving a
retroactive rebate.
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Sorry, but no deal!
Masari.Jones Updated - 22nd Jul 2008
AT&T's rate plans are the sole reason I have decided not to purchase the iPhone 3G. I was so looking forward to getting the new iPhone, but when I saw how much AT&T was going to screw, I mean charge, customers I decided I would stick with Sprint.

Consider this: $69.99 with Sprints gets you 450 anytime minutes and unlimited everything else. Unlimited nights & weekends, unlimited data, and unlimited text messaging. A similar plan on AT&T will cost you at least $25 more per month.

I love the new iPhone, but not enough to get screwed every month by AT&T. I wish they would have given customers the option to purchase the phone outright and go with a plan similar to the last iPhone, or the subsidized plan. But then again, it's never about what's best for the customer.

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