BlackBerry PlayBook has me excited about the HP TouchPad

By | April 23, 2011, 12:59pm PDT

Summary: The entire time I have been using the BlackBerry PlayBook I have come to realize how much of the webOS interface that RIM has borrowed. Seeing the PlayBook in action has me excited about the upcoming HP TouchPad.

The BlackBerry PlayBook is impressing me the longer I use it, primarily due to the nice hardware and the good user interface. The UI in particular is very intuitive and very well implemented. The entire time I have been using it I have come to realize how much of the webOS interface that RIM has incorporated into the PlayBook. Seeing the PlayBook in action has me very excited about the upcoming HP TouchPad tablet.

Don’t get me wrong, I think the RIM interface is very well done and while it uses some of the same methods found in webOS it is unique in many ways. I love how the running tasks show up in a bar that can be swiped left and right, and I love how closing an app is as easy as swiping the “card” up off the screen. I also find it useful to swipe left and right on the screen within an app to switch to the next app. This works well in practice, and it is very similar to the webOS method of representing tasks as cards on the screen.

I spent a couple of hours with the HP TouchPad earlier this year, and the most impressive thing about that session was seeing how HP has converted the webOS interface to fit the bigger tablet screen. Displaying tasks as cards is particularly good on the tablet screen, and the ability to stack tasks together in card view is really handy. This is lacking in the PlayBook interface, and I believe it is a major difference.

BlackBerry PlayBook tasks

BlackBerry PlayBook tasks

HP TouchPad "cards"

HP TouchPad cards

HP TouchPad notifications

HP TouchPad notifications

The notification system in webOS has been quite good since the launch of the platform, and it is nicely updated for the TouchPad display. It is possible to triage email without going to the app, a very useful method for those of us buried in the inbox all day. I knew when I first saw the HP TouchPad that I would almost certainly like to use one, and having seen the similar methodology in practice on the RIM PlayBook has me convinced that is so.

I am as excited about the impending launch of the TouchPad more today than ever, and it is in part thanks to the BlackBerry PlayBook. That’s not the intent of RIM, but it does confirm its good move in copying parts of webOS for the PlayBook.

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RE: BlackBerry PlayBook has me excited about the HP TouchPad
chechecute Updated - 16th Oct
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Thanks for keeping us updated on all of this. HP is really interested in getting into the game, as evidenced by the TouchPad, and on another level, the Slate (see review/comparison of Slate to iPad here:
http://trial-technology.blogspot.com/2011/04/has-ipad-met-its-match-maybe-not-yet.html

I think that the (full OS) Windows devices will become the hottest competitor to the iPad. It can actually become a computer replacement, as opposed to just another supplemental piece of technology. I look forward to seeing this heat up over the coming months.
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@litigationtech sorry but I don't think Windows tablets will compete with mobile tablets in general, much less the iPad. They've been around for years without gaining traction.
@JamesKendrick Some say that Android will dominate, but they will have to overcome a massive Apple app market, fighting on Apple's playground. Until recently, although there has been a Windows touch interface available, there hasn't been any decent hardware to support it. If rumors of touchpad interface improvements coming from MS are true, Windows already has the following, at least in the legal and business.

It will be fun to watch, and we're in for some real good stuff, regardless of how it works out. Keep us updated!
@JamesKendrick Windows Tablets didn't compete because they were too expensive and having that technology at that price was a luxury... I honestly believe that the Windows tablet would have taken off years ago if they hit a $600 price point.
@litigationtech Apple was over 100,000 apps on their Market when Android hit 2.0 and they took off fast there... Now it doesn't even matter because there are competing Apps on each platform.
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Just depends what you want to do...
johnmckay 25th Apr 2011
@JamesKendrick
You're not telling us theres no market for a gadget with direct usb, sd, etc. Gadgets you can save your media files to on holiday etc. I'm interested in the android for those reasons, hp web os, and potentially win7 tablet.

And I do have a company ipad but dont use it for the same reasons. I cant be bothered with secure apps for email and the extra password layers, and I cant be bothered loading media via itunes from my home pc. In the real world the iPad has many shortcomings...... but journalists, and buyers, are very keen not to admit.

ps I have an older hp tablet and it is big and bulky. Better hardware, touch screen (in place of stylus only) and the format would have been better. And regards app market... how many do we really use? I have maybe twenty that I use but less than 10 are used often. I think we'll see a lot of better apps in years to come, but fewer overall. A better, more productive family of apps.
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@litigationtech
The other day, I played with the ASUS 12.1" Windows tablet at Best Buy. It was an awful, awful experience! Horrible!

Now, don't get me wrong -- I love Windows 7...on a desktop. On a tablet, the Windows UI feels clumsy and antiquated (blame Apple for this).

The Windows UI was designed for mouse and keyboard, not touch. No matter how MS tweak the UI to accommodate touch, the UI will never feel right. MS need to *completely* overhaul the Windows UI for tablets.

I just don't understand how Windows users put up with a less-than-ideal tablet interface. They must somehow convince themselves that the Windows app advantage is worth whatever compromises they must make. The correct term for this is "self-delusion".

Oh, and the ASUS tablet hardware? It feels like a brick. Horrible, truly horrible.
And it's not only the Windows UI that needs to be overhauled. Existing Windows apps were also designed for mouse and keyboard -- they need to be revised accordingly. The entire Windows app ecosystem will not find a home on tablets.
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Your blog article highlights certain additional hand and finger gestures which enhance the usability of both the RIM and HP tablet OS capabilities.

I was just curious if you had enabled those much reported additional finger gestures on your iPad yet.

My own experience after enabling those optional developer features on my first gen iPad was, for the most part, beneficial. I truly used those added multi-touch features and enjoyed the added convenience those gestures provided. I still would be using them except that I discovered that by adding them, AirPlay "broke".

Since I use AirPlay features quite often in concert with my iPad and Apple TV2, I was shocked to discover that they no longer worked when those gestures were enabled.

However, now that my iPad 2 unit has arrived and I can output my iPad content thru the HDMI cable/Apple adapter method to my HDTV, I may enable those additional features on my new iPad 2.

Then again, I do enjoy the AirPlay capability so I may wait until an official iOS upgrade appears which includes those gestures (and keeps AirPlay functional), before I start using those gestures again.
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LMAO
SonofaSailor 23rd Apr 2011
@kenosha7777

So much for "just works", eh?
@SonofaSailor

To be fair, the documentation indicated that this bit of code was just for developers to "get a feel" for incorporating those extra gestures into applications. As it stands, the code was not meant to be released to the general public. (for obvious reasons .. or those reasons should be obvious to you now that you now "the rest of the story".)

As it stands, all the released features for iOS have always worked for me on my two iPads.

So .. I guess you never had experiences with beta or developer code that resulted in "unexpected" behavior?
@SonofaSailor Owning a Macbook Air I can assure you it..."just doesnt work all the time"
James,

I think you may have hit upon the main thing for both the HP and the RIM tablets - they will appeal most to current platform users. RIM will sell a bunch of tablets to both enterprise and consumer BlackBerry users. HP will sell TouchPads to WebOS users.

I also think that HP as the better chance of converting users to WebOS with the TouchPad than does RIM of converting people to BlackBerries. But that remains to be seen for sure.
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Assume nothing my friend.....
johnmckay 25th Apr 2011
@jglopic
Most folk I work with are not tied to any particular format or company. Some of my colleagues are tied to the Apple myth no matter how I point out it's complete pants where we work. Personally I'm looking for something I can get files onto directly, and get onto the company network. I dont care if it's ipad, android, blackberry, win 7 tablet, or hp web os. So long as it fires up really quick like ipad & android, does what I want without endless passwords, and is reliable on wifi (personally 3g is redundant with mifi, and no longer a 'must have' unless you're on the road an awful lot). So far my ipad is in my drawer, and I'm looking to the acer transformer, unless the company passes a Playbook to me.
Me too, James, me too.

think it's real, or just another phantom promise?
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RE: BlackBerry PlayBook has me excited about the HP TouchPad
JamesKendrick Updated - 23rd Apr 2011
@dalspartan oh it's coming, and soon
There's only a couple of moths left until June, the expected launch month for the HP Touchpad. I can't wait. There has got to be some info available on the exact launch date, pre-orders, locations where they will be available! COME ON HP ... throw me a bone!!!
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I saw your post and agreed on it about Playbook looking like TouchPad

If only HP would wake up and release the touchpad.

Just image the tablet device that they promised last year didn't materialize. They tantalize us with the new touchpad last february... now its almost the end of April going to May and they still have not yet released it or at least tantalize people by releasing it into the wild like what apple does to create media attention or people awareness. No updates about the device either.

Apple has the best marketing strategy. They know how to work the people and their appetites for new devices.

Come on HP release the TouchPad before a new table comes along that will grab people's attention and money.
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HP needs to wait UNTIL IT IS DONE
wackoae Updated - 24th Apr 2011
@leah.regina@... RIM and Motorola release unfinished junk with an empty promise of "free upgrade" in the distance future. HP needs to WAIT until the units are production quality and not rush out garbage like the competition.

It is better to arrive late to the party "dressed for success" than arrive looking like you shopped at the local garbage landfill.
HP has the best shot at catching the nonApple audience.
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Remember iPAQ?
MobileAdmin 24th Apr 2011
While I agree WebOS was a nice OS it is now a marginal player (if at all) RIM, Apple and Android have such domiant positions I wonder how HP will even leverage WebOS. The "launch" left a lot unanswered.

A previous poster commented HP will appeal to the current WebOS users - I hope they have larger plans that that as they threw a bunch of the initial WebOS users under the bus by not allowing WebOS upgrade on the Pre. Things like that leave a bad taste in owners mouths.

What will HP do to gain interest at the enterprise level? I assume they will support Exchange ActiveSync but without native encryption the device will face the same restrictions iOS had. No MDM on the market works with WebOS (even Good Technology a long time Palm solutions dumped them). At this point enterprise wants greater control of mobile devices, tablets even moreso. Will HP have API's or are those a "later date" type thing. They basically need to nail this in June as with Apple getting growing corporate interest, RIM expanding on Playbook I'm not sure HP will have a second chance. Now yes they could keep throwing money at this but I'm not hopeful.
@MobileAdmin

There was a time when Diamond had such a dominate position in MP3 players, that people wondered how Apple would leverage something called the iPod. The point is that technologies change and HP is a big enough company to compete in the space. I would be more worried for RIM trying a new OS now than HP with a proven OS that is now years ahead of them. RIM seems like where Palm was when it was transitioning from PalmOS to webOS. While the technology will be better, there's going to be a lot of growing pains in the transition.

Clearly HP is looking to appeal to more than just the current webOS users. They didn't pay over a billion dollars for a market that is in your own words, "marginal." As for marketing to the current webOS users, that is a slam dunk. Some are upset that they won't be able to upgrade their Pre, but many people's Pre's are two years old and the plastic is a little long in the tooth. Most smartphone users (those with a Pre) upgrade their devices every couple of years or sooner, so it will be time anyway. Two other things about this worth mentioning: 1) The webOS community has bridged the upgrade path and people are running webOS 2.x on their original Palm Pre's. It's just not officially supported by HP and the carriers 2) HP has promised to make it right to original webOS users. This will likely be in the form of a discount, which will be welcomed for those that wanted to upgrade anyway.

HP's strength is in the enterprise market. webOS has supported Exchange ActiveSync since its debut.

Why wouldn't you be hopeful that they'd keep on developing the market? HP may die as a computer company if it doesn't continue to develop the mobile market. The ability to make your phone, tablet, and computer work well will be necessary. A failing course of action would be trying to compete with Motorola, HTC, Samsung, etc. with the Android platform. There's already limited differentiation between those products.

In addition webOS basis in web technologies (HTML, CSS, javascript) is where the successful platforms will be in 3-4 years. Take a look at the average person's desktop and they typically don't install many apps if any at all. They get all their work done in the browser. This is only going to be more common with HTML5. webOS is best positioned of all the platforms to capitalize on this.
@bmacfarland

I question if WebOS is "proven" everyone pretty much wrote off the launch as a failure. Not one device gained any traction.

I also cannot stand the notion that Exchange ActiveSync alone = enterprise ready. EAS allows email sync. The bulk of the EAS policy are not supported on WebOS and it's about equal to Android from a security / management perspective.

I totally agree on the long in the tooth comment but it seems only Apple can get users to upgrade without too much complaining. Many users feel their device works and an OS upgrade should be covered. There is no criteria for how long an OS should be upgraded but with mobile devices they become obsolete much quicker then many users like (or can afford).
Honestly, alot of these WebOS Features don't even matter because may of them are being integrated into Honeycomb or already have been!

Crud, you talked about the unified notification area and it is already in Honeycomb... As for the email feature, that looks like a Widget and that's already in there as well...

The way I see it, Google needs to turn the recently used App list into a running task manager and allow you to close them by pinching or flicking them aside... This will pretty much negate any cool feature that WebOS has and make it impossible for HP to establish a foothold as their apps are extremely limited.
This from the guy that thought the Galaxy Tab was better thn the iPad.
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@kent42 I did say the Tab was better for me strictly due to its 7-inch form factor. I never said that overall it's better than the iPad.
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RE: BlackBerry PlayBook has me excited about the HP TouchPad
francisco1de9jess46@... Updated - 24th Apr 2011
I think you forgot to metion another big difference advantage of the HP Touchpad over the BB Playbook: The Touch to Share feature.
@francisco1de9jess46@...

Nice feature but only good if you have both a WebOS smartphone and tablet. Counting on users to either already have a WebOS smartphone or wants both is very limited. Your counting on HP to not have a homerun with one device but two.

I just don't see it happening.
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