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Let HP hear your voice! Vote to bring back the webOS line

By | September 24, 2011, 7:57am PDT

Summary: Those lamenting HP’s cancelation of the TouchPad and webOS phones now have the opportunity to get your voice heard. Cast your vote to let HP know you want webOS.

The open letter I wrote to HP’s new CEO asking her to bring back the webOS product line generated more responses than I could deal with. The overwhelming theme was to turn that letter into a petition of sorts to let readers get their voice heard about the cancelation of the webOS product line.

A poll has been added to that open letter that lets you get your vote in about the TouchPad and webOS phone line. It is below the open letter, so cast your vote to let HP know if you want it to bring back the webOS products. There is a good chance HP will see this so the more votes the better. You may not be able to change HP’s course but you should at least give it a good try.

Cast your vote to bring back the TouchPad or the whole webOS product line. Wouldn’t you like to see the Pre 3 come to the U. S.?

Read the open letter to HP and cast your vote!

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WebOS could and should rule the mobile device world
brentl99 5th Oct
I have been a Palm Treo user for about 5 years. I put off upgrading to a Pre in order to wait for the HP Pre 3. When HP cancelled production of the Pre 3 I decided to order the Pre 2. I used Echo to sync several thousand contacts and calendar items from my Palm Desktop to my Pre 2. I???m still working on getting a secure password application operational on my Pre, but I???m sure I???ll get that worked through.

I???m super impressed with WebOS. The multi-tasking is intuitive and slick. I looked at many Droid phones, but I just didn???t find one that I liked. Having a sideways slide-out keyboard just did not appeal to me. I really like the compact size of the Pre. The only comparable Droid is the Motorola Pro, and it has a smaller screen. Other Droids are like carrying around a brick. It also irks me that Microsoft gets a kick back when you by a Droid.

My wife had a Droid Pro, but after playing with my Pre 2, she also ordered a Pre 2. After using the Pre 2 for a day she said that she had the Pre 2 setup with everything she did with her Droid that took a year to configure.

A full charge on the Pre 2 battery lasts me a day. If I???m on the phone A LOT, I???ll need a charge late in the afternoon. That???s another plus compared to Droid users. I know 5 Droid users and they all have to charge their Droid multiple times per day even after loading various power saving apps.

I???m not comparing to an iPhone because it doesn???t have a keyboard. My son has an iPhone so I???m familiar with the iPhone. Fundamentally I don???t like the iPhone sync system with iTunes, although I???m sure there are ways to work around that. As a business user with many private/sensitive contact, calendar entries, notes, etc, I want a separate ???PIM??? desktop application that isn???t prone to being hacked or infected like iTunes or Outlook.

WebOS could definitely use more apps, not because one really needs all those apps, but to foster better apps. Regardless, I???m slowly getting what I need.

One other point: I???m specifically not syncing to Google. With so many private contacts I cannot have this information synced to a 3rd party. However, I know two other Pre users that have setup Google and Facebook syncing and they say they have not had any problems.

Like all smartphones, the Pre 2 does have its moments. On occasion the touch display goes bonkers when I???m trying to key a PIN after dialing a number. When that happens I just slide out the keyboard.

There is no question in my mind that WebOS is unquestionably the best mobile operating environment. If HP had stuck it out they could have ruled the mobile and desktop world with WebOS. Hopefully another company will pickup WebOS and continue the effort. I figure that if I can stick with the Pre 2 for a couple of years may be there will be an upgrade path or a better Droid/iPhone/etc option.

Finally, the Verizon Pre 2 ships with document management compatible with MS Office, a PDF viewer and mobile hot spot. This means the Pre really has almost everything you need for business use right out of the box.
Just received my HP TP the last couple of days and did some research before i bought it for 200 bucks, over a 100 bucks from the fire sale but, uhhmmmm after i did some tweaks/patches/overclocking to 1.5ghz...then BOOOMMMM!!! I love it more than my Thrive. HP, please dont stop making awesome toys...
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I vote to bring it back!
James Quinn 24th Sep
But is their an actual WebOS line? I was only aware if the TP. Were their other things running WebOS?

Pagan jim
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@James Quinn Pre, Pre 2, Pre 3, Veer. All phones. 7-inch TouchPad Go was near launch.
@James Quinn

I want them to bring back RSTS/E and CP/M and MS-DOS, So I suppose Web OS can join the list of OS solutions that we just don't need anymore wink
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Nope, let it die
FADS_z 24th Sep
No one buy it for $499, and $200+ is a losing money business.
@FADS_z: ... versions. And unless voters are able to send $400 to HP for each such WebOS device additionally to the $99 price, HP will not be able to continue this.
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If HP brings it back from the dead
terry flores 24th Sep
To be successful, they have to:
1) Commit to at least 3 product cycles to catch up to iPad
2) Partner with Amazon for media store
3) Pay incentives and manage apps development
4) Innovate something NEW that Apple doesn't already have

This isn't unique to HP, it was ANYBODY will need to be competitive with Apple.
If HP wants to be service oriented, much like IBM, that is all well and good.. but even IBM did not entirely give up their hardware line.. they sold it out with exclusive service contract agreement to Lenovo.. HP either needs to bring back the webOS with its own hardware, or get another company to take over the hardware, still maintaining its software and service interests.. but not producing at all will kill HP.
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Sell it at $200+ to increase the market shares first...
Tablets need to be cheap to get into the market share of ipad. The problem is you can not get a high performance quality tablet in the 200$ cost range today without loosing money.
See the keyword here is today, since by next year, the prices of dual core cpus will go down, and everything else and this will cause manufacturers to be able to reduce price. So if WebOS lives till then, it could be a rebirth in one year.
But the best bet of life is for android, its ecco system is larger and more able to compete.
I think a good poll would be to not only allow people to vote on bringing a product back but to choose the price point at which they would be willing to buy the product and the features they could do without as well as the must have features at that price point. Also, would they be willing to pay an additional premium on all apps or subscription prices for the app store if this is what it took to meet the price point. Simply voting on bring a product back does not mean any of the voters will actually buy it if it is beyond their acceptable price.
@Viva la crank dodo - Of course, this is what the Marketing Dept. was supposed to be doing all along, determining the appeal of the product at various price points. Obviously HP marketing folks were as clueless as their CEO.
that it was not selling too well at the $499 price point.

Would they be able to make a profit from selling it at $199, and if so would it be the quality product people would be willing to purchase?

Claiming that selling it at a loss and making up the loss though sales of Apps is betting very heavily on third party developers creating quality apps for the device.

If they don't, then all HP would have done is lose yet even more money.
that it was not selling too well at the $499 price point.

Would they be able to make a profit from selling it at $199, and if so would it be the quality product people would be willing to purchase?

Claiming that selling it at a loss and making up the loss though sales of Apps is betting very heavily on third party developers creating quality apps for the device.

If they don't, then all HP would have done is lose yet even more money.
to give up on the touchpad is madness if the think about it for a moment and to give up webOS is insanity considering their new customer base and its self evident popularity when I think about all that has transpired over the previous months I can't but help thinking that "they really don't know what their doing" roll on android for all our sakes signed one unhappy touchpad user. sad
Why not include a 3rd option that requests they leave it as discontinued. Not saying this to be funny but it would be interesting to see if the support is all that strong for the device.
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I am holding on to my Preplus until the Pre3 is brought back. I really don't want an Iphone or android. Palm made excellent products that put my life in order for many, many years. They also stood behind their products. I have ordered five touchpads and am waiting for their arrival.
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HP hardware software is DEAD under Meg
Davewrite Updated - 24th Sep
Meg whose biggest accomplishements is running a shopping channel (eBay) and selling Mr. Potato Head for Hasbro is going to keep Web OS alive?

seriously if one smart engineer comes up with some breakthrough improvement on WebOS and asks her "Shall we go ahead, it'll cost 100 million to develop?". How with her TOTAL lack of tech know how will she say 'Yes' or 'No'? How will she lay out the 'game plan' for the future of WebOS when she's tech clueless?

(ask advisors you say? How will she PICK advisors if she knows nothing of tech? How will she know if the advisors are giving her good info? and if she defers every decision to advisors' yes or no she'll quickly lose all respect and power among key managers and engineers)

Maybe she'll change HP into selling Sham Wow.

(yeah flame me but about a year ago I also said Apo a software guy (fired) from SAP would have no clue running HP hardware... )
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No votes needed
Hessu 25th Sep
We already voted by not buying it.
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Android is King, always will be and bringing back this dead OS won't make a difference.

http://betanews.com/2011/09/25/not-everyone-is-waiting-for-iphone-5-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-sales-top-10-million/
please bring it back, its such an awesome OS, some time, patience, and more quality apps is all it needs... Apple didn't become a giant overnight.
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@Sal6078 did you know the guy that designed WebOS is the same guy that designed the Honeycomb UI and he's said to be bringing it all together with Ice Cream Sandwich.
Ain't gonna happen James, get over it.
I have been a Palm Treo user for about 5 years. I put off upgrading to a Pre in order to wait for the HP Pre 3. When HP cancelled production of the Pre 3 I decided to order the Pre 2. I used Echo to sync several thousand contacts and calendar items from my Palm Desktop to my Pre 2. I???m still working on getting a secure password application operational on my Pre, but I???m sure I???ll get that worked through.

I???m super impressed with WebOS. The multi-tasking is intuitive and slick. I looked at many Droid phones, but I just didn???t find one that I liked. Having a sideways slide-out keyboard just did not appeal to me. I really like the compact size of the Pre. The only comparable Droid is the Motorola Pro, and it has a smaller screen. Other Droids are like carrying around a brick. It also irks me that Microsoft gets a kick back when you by a Droid.

My wife had a Droid Pro, but after playing with my Pre 2, she also ordered a Pre 2. After using the Pre 2 for a day she said that she had the Pre 2 setup with everything she did with her Droid that took a year to configure.

A full charge on the Pre 2 battery lasts me a day. If I???m on the phone A LOT, I???ll need a charge late in the afternoon. That???s another plus compared to Droid users. I know 5 Droid users and they all have to charge their Droid multiple times per day even after loading various power saving apps.

I???m not comparing to an iPhone because it doesn???t have a keyboard. My son has an iPhone so I???m familiar with the iPhone. Fundamentally I don???t like the iPhone sync system with iTunes, although I???m sure there are ways to work around that. As a business user with many private/sensitive contact, calendar entries, notes, etc, I want a separate ???PIM??? desktop application that isn???t prone to being hacked or infected like iTunes or Outlook.

WebOS could definitely use more apps, not because one really needs all those apps, but to foster better apps. Regardless, I???m slowly getting what I need.

One other point: I???m specifically not syncing to Google. With so many private contacts I cannot have this information synced to a 3rd party. However, I know two other Pre users that have setup Google and Facebook syncing and they say they have not had any problems.

Like all smartphones, the Pre 2 does have its moments. On occasion the touch display goes bonkers when I???m trying to key a PIN after dialing a number. When that happens I just slide out the keyboard.

There is no question in my mind that WebOS is unquestionably the best mobile operating environment. If HP had stuck it out they could have ruled the mobile and desktop world with WebOS. Hopefully another company will pickup WebOS and continue the effort. I figure that if I can stick with the Pre 2 for a couple of years may be there will be an upgrade path or a better Droid/iPhone/etc option.

Finally, the Verizon Pre 2 ships with document management compatible with MS Office, a PDF viewer and mobile hot spot. This means the Pre really has almost everything you need for business use right out of the box.

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