Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

Summary: For a long time Apple has been a company folks either passionately love or hate. With the iconic leader gone, perhaps detractors will soften their stance against the company.

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The regular scene of faithful customers lined up in front of Apple stores is legendary, as common a sight as the haters that come out in droves to spew venom in response to every single article appearing online about the company. It has long been understood that Apple was a company you either loved or hated with a passion, with no middle ground.

I actually fall in that neutral zone as I like some of Apple's products but not others, and while I don't like some of the things the company's business practices no more so than any other company. I view Apple as I do other organizations, just a company full of people, some good and some less so.

While I shouldn't be surprised at the hatred Apple generates from those who don't like the organization, it never fails to shock me just how angry people get at the company. Every article written about Apple, even some that only mention it in passing, for that matter even some articles that don't address Apple at all, bring out the most hateful responses you will see online.

What's up with that? Why does the very mention of Apple start some folks frothing at the mouth? Even saying something less than flattering about Apple's competition can cause venom to be spouted about Apple. It's like these folks have a switch with only two settings: hate for Apple and hate for those even thinking about it.

The passing of Steve Jobs led to lots of speculation about how Apple will be perceived by faithful customers. This is understandable given how iconic he was, and how thoroughly he had come to represent the company. With Jobs gone, is there a chance the company's haters may lessen their stance against Apple? Perhaps some of those with long-time negative feelings about the company will soften their stance? As one who writes about these companies for a living, at least I can hope.

Topics: CXO, Apple, IT Employment

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  • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

    I doubt that much will change. This is just another "front" in the Culture Wars, and to be honest I am not certain of the basis for this particular battle (and I was a young adult when Apple first appeared on the scene.) I suspect that, like so many other long-time feuds, the reason for the fight is no longer of any importance: it is the fight itself that matters.

    ~EdT.
    etee74
    • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

      @etee74

      "I suspect that, like so many other long-time feuds, the reason for the fight is no longer of any importance: it is the fight itself that matters."

      Kind of reminds me of the original Star Trek episode "A Taste of Armageddon" where all losses were mathematical and not real. The "war" had been going on for centuries and no one knew exactly what started it any longer. (Yes, I am a Star Trek geek)
      benched42
      • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

        @benched42 You've been declared a casualty of war - please step into the disintegration booth.
        athynz
      • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

        @benched42 I've always thought "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" was a perfect representation of the Mac Vs. Windows silliness. Bele being black on the right where Lokai is white on the right is like yellow folders, blue folders, one menu, multiple menus, etc.
        NotTellinYou
  • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

    Quite the opposite. Steve Jobs was a mitigating factor. As they say, it's easy to hate a company but hard to hate a person.
    MarkXA
  • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

    I disagree, it was jobs we just didn't care for!
    slickjim
    • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

      @Peter Perry That's ok...he didn't much care for you.
      NotTellinYou
    • A guy you never knew?

      @Peter Perry .. Now that is strange.

      Pagan jim
      James Quinn
  • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

    People didn't hate Apple because Steve Jobs; people hate Apple because of the other people who worship Apple and believe Steve Jobs is god.
    yoroto
    • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

      @yoroto How can one even begin to debate logic like that?
      jeremychappell
    • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

      @yoroto Really? That's your take on it? Interesting. Others here have labeled me an Apple fanboi and a Steve jobs worshiper because I disputed and disproved their FUD... and I'll be the first one to say that Steve Jobs was not and is not God - far from it. I do think he was a visionary and was someone who was far more successful than most people here give him credit for. Some of his achievements are definitely worthy of admiration as some of his actions are worthy of condemnation.
      athynz
    • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

      @yoroto <br><br>How childish a reason. That says more about you than these Apple fans that you claim worships Jobs. <br><br> I have been a fan of Apple products going back decades. Not because i worship some man as you say but because of Apple's quality, design standards with both software and hardware, attention to detail, ease of use and great support. You will find me debating against silly statement such as yours because it's silly, not because I worship Jobs.
      dave95.
    • First point there is no god.

      @yoroto ... So now never thought of Steve Jobs as a god cause that would mean he'd be a figment of my imagination or something like that. Odd. I did admire his accomplishments and achievements. Still all in all whats not to admire about that?

      Pagan jim
      James Quinn
  • Does it really matter?

    We have Microsoft (or should I say M$) haters, Apple haters, ect.
    The ususal people will drag the whatever company they dislike into any conversation if it gives them a reason ( or even a perceived reason) to spit their venom.

    It doesn't matter who passed away, as it was never a person or company they hate.

    I think eete74 (above) was on the mark - [i]I suspect that, like so many other long-time feuds, the reason for the fight is no longer of any importance: it is the fight itself that matters.[/i]
    William Farrell
  • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

    For me it was the attitude of Apple users and the price of their products that I hated. The company itself was ok.
    Loverock Davidson-
    • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

      @Loverock Davidson- Same with me. I hated those early 'get a mac' adverts where the girl was complaining about how her PC kept crashing and deleting all her assignments. Even with my limited experience at the time I knew she was comparing against a product that had been dead for a long time; the modern PC did not just crash at random, and MS Word had an autosave function to protect against losing work in the event of a software crash. <br><br>The tough thing is that the effects of these adverts has endured - Apple lovers are very glad they're not using a virus-ridden windows 95-esque PC while Apple haters can't believe that the Apple lovers bought into the hype!
      Imrhien
    • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

      @Loverock Davidson- You guys are the perfect example of the anti-Apple Cabal. You hate on an emotional level just as Apple fans love on an emotional level. The difference is they love for what the product does for them but why you hate well...that's just a little strange to me.

      For example your posting here! I like my Apple products so I vote with my wallet. I don't "hate" Google, or Microsoft, I own or use products made by both., but more important I don't feel the need to troll Google and Microsoft articles and post negative comments about Android or Windows because I have no skin in the game. Yet time and time again the Anti-Apple Cabal feels the need to comment and post on anything Apple. Why? For me Android and Windows aren't products I use, I really can't give any sort of informed opinion, and frankly I have better things to do with my time.

      As I said, I ready voted with my wallet, and in the end that's the only power I have and the only one that matters.
      NotTellinYou
      • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

        @NotTellinYou That's not a fair accusation (calling his post a "troll") because the whole question is one of Apple "haters" no longer "hating" Apple now that Steve Jobs is gone. He posted here exactly because of the topic in question. If his response was a thread-crap, I'd agree with you, but it wasn't. Of course, labeling those who disagree with you as an "anti-Apple Cabal" is totally hypocritical because you can easily be labeled an "anti-anti-Apple Cabal", but be that as it may...<br><br>And he's not alone in his opinion. No one hates those who love Apple just because they love Apple, but in my experience a LOT of those Apple lovers turn into Apple preachers who look for any opportunity to proselytize about Apple at any opportunity (or refer to anyone who disagrees as being part of a "cabal"). (That said, the cheering and applauding of the first person who buys a newly-released Apple product does make me roll my eyes.) When you start preaching at those who don't buy what you like, you should expect people to hate that which you represent by proxy.
        JLBer
      • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

        @NotTellinYou I cannot emphasis more on how exactly same I feel.
        You are bang on right. In fact I know that I love Apple products and on a slight level hate some other competitors. But I have never gone on those forums or articles and talked anything against those competitors.
        Largely because I don???t care and I don???t want to invest time in talking about devices which i am not using or liking. Instead I would talk about what I like.
        iAmCK
  • RE: Maybe Apple haters come around with a new leader

    I won't be an Apple fan until I can use their devices how I see fit with no manufacturer influence. What and how I download items or operate my device should never be questioned once it is MY device. I've never been keen on having "my way or the highway" shoved down my throat. Maybe most uninformed consumers don't care as long as things work for them. However, I do, and I doubt I'm alone....
    datadorklv