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My dream tablet will likely have a Windows sticker on it

By | September 9, 2011, 12:00pm PDT

Summary: My dream tablet could be used as my only system if properly configured. Here is what I need in a dream tablet.

The recent statement by Intel that future Ultrabooks will have swivel screens and attached keyboards got me thinking about what I want. That’s a dangerous pastime for me, and it drove home what I want in a tablet that can serve all of my needs. The most surprising realization was that my dream tablet needs to run Windows 8, or whatever Microsoft ends up calling it.

By way of background I have been using Tablet PCs since they first hit the scene. I used one Tablet PC or another for years, all day every day in my consulting work. I used the pen, I used the keyboard, I was the poster boy for the tablet in the workplace.

My work no longer requires a tablet, but I still find them useful. I probably have a tablet in my hands almost as much as I am sitting at a “real” computer. I like the freedom and convenience that tablets provide for a lot of my work and play.

What I need

  • My dream tablet needs to have a 9-inch or 10-inch screen with a good resolution (1280×800 or higher). It needs to be as close to a pound in weight as possible, and extremely thin. The size and weight is important, as I expect to be using the tablet in my hands for hours at a stretch. Every ounce over a pound makes that less comfortable.
  • The tablet must offer the real web without compromise. A lot of my work involves using web interfaces, and I absolutely cannot compromise on this. The surest way to get that is if my dream tablet has a full desktop browser, or better yet the ability to run any browser I want.
  • I occasionally have to use office documents, so the ability to work with those is a must. These are the standard office fare– word docs, spreadsheets, and presentations.
  • The tablet will be my primary (or only) system, so in addition to the work stuff it needs to handle the fun stuff too. This means my music collection (cloud-based and local), video entertainment (online and movies), and especially my ebook reading.
  • I must be able to use my dream tablet for at least 10 hours a day, so battery life is key. I really use my tablets, so I’m not just talking pick it up, do a few things and put it down. I need to be able to actually use it for 10 hours. More is better, but 10 hours is mandatory.
  • I don’t need mobile broadband, Wi-Fi is sufficient for my needs. I have a 4G LTE Mobile Hotspot and that’s good enough for me.
  • I am a writer so a keyboard is critical for my primary system. I would like my thin and light dream tablet to have a separate wireless keyboard that can be easily used. I particularly like the Zagg keyboard/case for the iPad, and this is what I need for my dream tablet.
  • While not as important to me as a good interface operated by touch, also incorporating pen input would be beneficial. This means system-wide handwriting input that can be used either as a markup system for some apps, and as a text conversion option in others. It must be totally integrated in the system to be useful, not as an afterthought thrown on top like previous Tablet PCs.
  • This tablet must have a mobile processor to have true instant-on and standby. I don’t want Intel to be anywhere inside my dream tablet, as the company has so far fallen short of what I need. Give me good ARM technology in my tablet and I’ll be happy.
  • I need a good stable of apps that are designed from the ground up for tablet use, but that can also handle use as a laptop with the wireless keyboard. Office apps are required, as is a good email solution for working with Gmail.

How to get that

  • The best way to get what I need as a tablet is with a full OS that also does the tablet stuff well. That probably means Windows 8, as Microsoft intends to make it handle regular PCs and tablets equally well. I have my doubts it can be done as they intend, but if they can pull it off it’s what my dream tablet needs to run.
  • Win8 is being ported to the ARM platform so it meets my requirement for a mobile processor in my dream tablet. It must not be compromised over the standard build of Win8, however, or it won’t meet my desire for the tablet to be my primary system.
  • Microsoft must obviously support its own cloud services and email, but my tablet can’t be limited to that. Like millions of prospective buyers for this tablet, I am entrenched in the Google services. My dream tablet must handle Gmail, Google Docs and hopefully other cloud services. If this requires getting Google onboard with app development, then it must be done. Throw patent licenses on the tablet, Microsoft, and I guarantee you can get Google to support Win8, probably better than Android.

Recap

So my dream tablet needs to have the form equivalent to that of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, and its long battery life. I want a keyboard like the Zagg keyboard/case for the iPad, for those times when I need to enter lots of text. I need a full desktop OS that is optimized for a mobile device. I need apps that allow me to do all of my work.

I believe such a tablet could be produced today, and at a reasonable cost. Ideally my dream tablet and keyboard should cost me around $700. I don’t want much.

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RE: My dream tablet will likely have a Windows sticker on it
bkircos 9th Nov
I work for Intel so take this with a grain of salt. But the article assumes Intel doesn't have chips that can get to a Galaxy or ipad 2 thin-ness and weight. We have a whole new Atom chip (Clover Trail) being designed for Windows 8. Many will be surprised at its diet, yet still providing 30-years worth of Windows knowledge and terrific Intel performance. And then there's Core processors, in a class of their own.
Has hell just frozen over???

JK wants a Windows8 tablet? Seriously? Windows ... y'know, from Microsoft?

Wow. Perhaps their is hope left in this world wink
@JK: All joking aside though, I agree with every word you typed here.

I'm also fascinated by the form-factor of Asus' Eee Transformer - a laptop you can disattach the screen from to carry around as a tablet. Re-attach the screen and you have a laptop (with extra battery and IO under the keyboard).

I wonder if this might end up being the primary form-factor for business PCs in the future?
@bitcrazed
Wait. You can what??!? Where do I get one of these!
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No Accident...
kwabinalars 9th Sep
... that it is the second best selling tablet. The form factor alone sets it so far above the competition.

I have accidentally sold a number of these (I'm not in sales) just by informing people in the market that it exists. So many people want to have the tablet but really love that add-on keyboard for blogging and writing long emails. It's brilliant.

Anyway, I expect next year Asus will have Win8 and Android versions selling side by side.
sure!
@bitcrazed
Aren't there detachable (bluetooth) keyboards for virtually every tablet out there? Other than a clever name, what makes Asus' offering better than others?
@jdakula Go buy one, $550 with the keyboard dock.
@Robert Hahn No, the Transformer has a physical connector and it is locked onto the Tablet like a real laptop, not a screen with a detached keyboard.
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Yeah baby!
rhonin 10th Sep
@bitcrazed
And mine works great!
When docked to the keyboard I get a whole days use plus.
Charge overnight and both are ready to go.

This does seem like the current best designed set up.

Btw, the Zagg is not bad but I do at times get quirky results with mu ipad2. Transformer set up is much better.
@Robert Hahn what about the same Asus's keyboard that also charges the tablet and gives you additional 9 hrs of battery life?(or about 16 hrs total running time)
Still think its just a clever name?
@bitcrazed

That could be, but the keyboard on the Transformer is too small to be really usable for anyone larger than a gnome.
@bitcrazed Oh yeah that day is not far, when the laptop cases will have specialized space for your detachable keyboard.
Got my Asus Eee Transformer a couple months ago after lots of research. It not only met my expectations, but has exceeded them. I find new uses for it all the time and it is slowly replacing the use of my laptop in a large # of situations.

But enough of the commercial. I can see the interest in a Win8 tablet, but to be honest, the tablet form factor with detachable screen opens up new use-cases that regular PC users aren't used it, and one of those is the "fun" factor. And it's only "fun" if there are apps to support the fun side. One of the pleasant surprises for my Asus Transformer was playing all the Android apps and games in addition to doing real work. All that high performance and portability won't count as much in a Win8 tablet unless they can make the entire experience fun.
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Asus Transformer
symbolset 9th Sep
Put Ubuntu on it and call it good. $550 delivered, with keyboard.

Was there anything else? A pony perhaps? The standard allotment is three wishes.
@symbolset
Biggest problem is Office Doc compatability. OO and LO both still suck at this. Its usable, but usually breaks most docs on the push back. Not to mention that touch/pen support in Ubuntu is non-existant. (yes, you can touch it, but thats about it...). Oh, and Ubuntu doesnt run ARM.
@mjlaverty@... The other way to look at this is that Word is not compatible with the open format. As Word took the open format, made changes to it, and closed the code. Now if they want full compatibility, the free versions will have to pay MS fees. I agree that Word is better than OO or LO... but I fail to see where putting an expensive OS on a supposedly inexpensive piece of tech is the more rational option. How much formatting and writing do you want to do with something like a tablet? For that, you should get one of those hybrid tablet/notebooks like the one mentioned above.
@mjlaverty Softmaker Office. For everyday writing, I've been using Atlantis for years: cheap, superfast and superreliable, free updates, and they added Docx compatibility a while back (although MS can just shove that stupid, made-up format up their dumb butts), but it's a Win-only program.

Softmaker Office, though, has versions for both Windows and Linux, and offers much better Word, Excel and Powerpoint compatibility than OO and its variants and is vastly faster to boot (so to speak.) If I'm not using Atlantis, I'm using Softmaker Textmaker. The current version, 2010, is not free but it's cheap enough, $80, and you can get it much cheaper via one of their periodic sales or through an academic discount. They do offer their 2008 version for free, which is also very good, but lacks Docx capability (fortunately I'm not friends with anyone dumb enough to send me a document in that misbegotten format.)
@mjlaverty@... Where did you get that idea? Ubuntu has an ARM based distribution. I don't believe it runs Unity but it certainly exists.
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Office Doc compatibility
symbolset 10th Sep
@mjlaverty@... For that you don't even need to put Ubuntu on it. It comes with an office suite that handles Office docs just fine.

Ubuntu does have a version that runs on ARM.

And pen? Get serious. That ship has sailed.
@symbolset

Here we go with the Linux peanut gallery.

Ubuntu is unstable junk. There is a reason Windows is successful.
@NTNerd208 Funny... My "unstable" Ubuntu has been running without a glitch since install (2 years). Can't say the same for my Windows PCs. And BTW, Ubuntu does run on ARM.
@NTNerd208 The reason is the mighty M$ monopoly! And the still concealed M$Office formats ! I use Ubuntu for a while now and i am very pleased. Some troubles with my old hardware and Unity is far away of beeing perfect, but at least much better than Windows from evil Micro$oft !
@NTNerd208 It is nothing of the sort! Ubuntu is the distribution that is bringing Linux into the Modern Day.
@NTNerd208 Yes, that reason is because Microsoft got in on the ground floor because they knew some people who knew some people, and then did everything within the law (and a few things outside of it) to maintain their position. When pretty much everything runs Windows and pretty much everything is made exclusively for Windows (although this situation seems to be improving), it's kind of hard for anyone else to make any real headway.
@Ale82

You must never upgrade between Ubuntu versions then. It has bug regressions all the time. Things constantly break. Good luck getting 11.04 to work with Nvidia drivers. The screen becomes scrambled and unusable.

You're just jealous of Microsoft. They hit the honey pot with their deal with IBM to run DOS. If Macs would have won out you'd be hating Apple.

Linux will never be successful on the desktop. It lacks standardization. Too many different installers, package managers, and GUIs. It's been dead in the water for 20 years now. Give it up, no matter how much you harp about it, it will never gain any significant market share. People want easy to use computers not a nerdy OS where you have to use command line to get things done.

No one cares about your Open Source philosophy religion. Linux users are worse than Mac cultists. Enjoy drinking your kool-aid chumps.

PS.

I never said anything about Ubuntu not running on ARM. You got me confused with another post.
@NTNerd208 What? I am running 11.04 right now and typing this note... My nVidia Drivers work great and this might be the fastest OS I've ever used (Yes I've used Windows 7 and Lion).
@Peter Perry

Ubuntu 11.04 caused the windows to go blank white with both Nvidia drivers I tried, Unity 2D would cause the screen to be a scrambled mess upon waking from sleep.

Both were know issues that were listed. I wasn't the only one that had those problems as I checked the bug reports on it. They shipped a broken product.

Ubuntu has bug regressions all the time, just go to their support forum and you'll see people complaining about how their system keeps breaking. Ubuntu is not stable.
@NTNerd208
It's so very strange that I, someone who had never installed an OS in his life, installed Ubuntu in 2008 and have had it running since with none of the troubles you've listed and you, someone who claims to be a nerd, couldn't get the nvidia drivers to work. My desktop runs an nvidia card and works quite nicely, my laptop has ATI and it's running just as nicely.
Maybe nerd means something completely where you come from.
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Here ya go
Broggy69 9th Sep
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/acer-iconia-tab-w500-tablet-pc-running-windows-7-available-starting-at-54999/5565

I love this. I have one it is full windows OS. I did but a faster SD Card just for extra storage for music, movies, and other programs.

I get around 7 hours of browsing the web, 5 hours if I am watch movies, with the screen as bright as it goes.
@Broggy69 Also is does come with a keyboard docking station that is awesome. It has the eraser head for the mouse, or you could plug in a real mouse.
@Broggy69 The Iconia W500 is a great tablet. It uses AMD Brazos technology (Ontario) of 9 watt of Thermal design power. But if Windows 8 will run on Cortex A-9 Dual Core ARM it only has an output of 2W. There is a new AMD Desna processor with 5.9W but is still less efficient than ARM. I hope there is a day in the future where we can choose a tablet based on ARM or x86 architecture which can handle TDP of 2-4W and the war of CPU architectures will be over.
@Gabriel Hernandez Windows 8 will be supporting the ARM chips, at least that is what I hear MS saying. I will be putting Win 8 on my tablet, but if anyone wants a Windows tablet now that actually works, then the Acer Iconia does, what the other windows tablet hasn't. Once Win 8 is out, my tablet will be even better, which is why I am scared of MS direction for Win 8 on desktop, and laptops.
@Broggy69 I purchased the Acer Iconia Tab W500-BZ467 10.1-Inch Tablet for a warehouse application. Installed the full blown Office 2010 suite. It's perfect. Wi-Fi. W7. MS VPN & Remote Desktop. Our custom in-house developed software only works with Internet Explorer. The W500 could be lighter. It could have a longer battery life. But we're a Windows shop. Android and iOS won't fill our need.

Mark
Those who make their living as digital producers AND consumers is a plus for the rest of us when they express their opinion about how their tablets "need to be"...

Yes, I am also, just waiting for Win 8 and the next iteration of 10" and 7" tablets and accessories.

Thank you, James!
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Battery Life !> Performance
facebook@... 9th Sep
Sorry, I do not need toy atom processors. I am willing to take less batter life if it means I have a number crunching processor.
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Nice idea
rhonin 10th Sep
@facebook@...
When docked to keyboard with extra battery - high performance
No dock - normal performance

happy
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performance boosting dock
hobbes80 9th Sep
Add to your list the ability to dock the tablet on hardware customizable docks and you have now usurped PCs... This is where Intel's "Thunderbolt" technology could really shine... A dock that has an advanced GPU, additional memory, standard ports, etc... and hard-linked on the fly to the OS of the tablet just by plugging it in would be a device I'd own in a heartbeat.

Table can be $4-500. Docking stations should be customizable... build your own PC guys could go nuts.

I'll take 4 docks please... Work Office, Home Office, Entertainment Center, car-compatible.

"kthxbai"
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Why TB?
rhonin 10th Sep
@hobbes80
Would nt USB3 be a better choice?
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Hate to break it to you
wolf_z 11th Sep
@hobbes80

"Add to your list the ability to dock the tablet on hardware customizable docks and you have now usurped PCs..."

No, you have *created* yet another PC... happy Admittedly having a detatchable screen you can carry around is nice occasionally, but if you dock a tablet you have a *laptop*...
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and a number of trips to the gym.
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I will Add
swisslakes 9th Sep
1-Docking Station with full keyboard and mouse
2-HD Attached external Video Camera
3-Wireles: , Dolby speakers & headset

I think All could come from Logitech as they been adding more for iPad and Android, some leaked on other sites
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"the ability to run any browser I want
Rabid Howler Monkey 9th Sep
You didn't tell us what web browser(s) you wanted. happy

However, IE only runs on Windows. Safari only runs on Mac OS X/iOS and Windows. Firefox, Chrome and Opera all run on Windows, Mac OS X/iOS (Chrome is not available for iOS) and desktop Linux.

Thus, desktop Linux is out as you won't be able to run either IE or Safari. And Mac OS X/iOS is out as you won't be able to run IE on OS X/iOS or Chrome on iOS.

Windows wins for it's support of all major web browsers (and Opera).

P.S. An iPad2 running the Citrix Receiver app would meet your web browser requirement *if* you have access to a Citrix Xen virtualization back-end:

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/mowi/article.php/3861966/Using-Windows-7-in-iPad-Citrix-Says-Yes.htm

However, the iPad2, with its 1024x768 screen resolution, fails to meet your requirement. Thus, the iPad2 is out. Unless you can't wait for a Windows 8-based tablet. In this case, you must make a reality-based decision and choose between an iPad2 and a Windows 7 Tablet PC.
@Rabid Howler Monkey
Windows doesn't win, it cheats. IE isn't a major web browser, it's a major web headache. Safari is almost as bad. The others are available on all platforms.
Also, a better reality based decision would include all Android tablets as well as the playbook and the touchpad (if you can find any left)
+1
I too want it.
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More anti-Apple FUD
MSFTWorshipper 9th Sep
who needs the "full web" which really means Flash? Flash is a resource hog, in addition is virus-prone. Steve Jobs did a real task for humanity by sticking a fork in that one. Just buy an iPad and enjoy no crashing/fast boot/no viruses.
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Agreed
Michael Alan Goff 9th Sep
He shouldn't get a tablet based on his personal needs, which might include flash. He should get a tablet based on what Steve Jobs says he needs.

Why should anyone bother getting something that does what they need it to do?
@MSFTWorshipper What Mr Jobs failed to reveal is that playing video and games are also battery killers. Is it perhaps because those are the no.1 things people do on the iPad? wink
@jhughesy

Surely you understand the term resources hog right? Flash is a known resource hog on mobile devices.
@MSFTWorshipper

For one all computers can crash. I've seen Apple OSes crash. No computer is immune from it.

As much as an iPad costs you can buy a fully functional laptop. Only a sucker would buy a crippled OS.

As for viruses I've been using Windows 7 since it came out and I haven't caught any viruses. Maybe you should stay away p0rn & torrent sites.
I work for Intel so take this with a grain of salt. But the article assumes Intel doesn't have chips that can get to a Galaxy or ipad 2 thin-ness and weight. We have a whole new Atom chip (Clover Trail) being designed for Windows 8. Many will be surprised at its diet, yet still providing 30-years worth of Windows knowledge and terrific Intel performance. And then there's Core processors, in a class of their own.

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