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The looming perception problem with Windows tablets

By | March 9, 2011, 10:40am PST

Summary: With a number of Windows tablets being prepared for launch, it is clear that Microsoft will have to deal with a perception problem about slates that is looming in the wings.

With a number of Windows tablets being prepared for launch, it is clear that Microsoft will have to deal with a perception problem looming in the wings. Most of these tablets will be simple touch tablets like the iPad or the TEGA v2, but consumers are already confused thinking they will handle pen input. There will be a lot of tablets returned when buyers discover they cannot write on the screen, and OEMs will look to Microsoft to get the correct message to consumers.

The Windows Tablet PC never reached mainstream acceptance, but most folks are aware of these laptops that have pens. While sales of Tablet PCs were largely restricted to niche markets, most folks have been exposed to the laptops that work with a pen. A lot of folks I talk to have never tried using a Tablet PC, but have a curiosity about the ability to write on the screen with the special pen. The more I correspond with readers about the touch tablets hitting the market, the more apparent it is that many potential buyers think that any device running Windows will handle pen input. That’s not the case and a lot of folks are going to be disappointed when they find out the truth.

Some early Tablet PCs had the ability to handle both touch and pen input, through special digitizers that worked with both types of technologies. These digitizers were not cheap, and resulted in devices that cost more than those that handled only one input method or the other. It is only natural that those unfamiliar with how this works will end up confused about which devices can do both and which ones can’t.

To complicate the situation the HP Slate 500 that was released late last year has the ability to work with both touch and pen, even though it has the same form as touch only slates. This is part of the reason it is expensive when compared to the iPad with touch only. Other Windows tablets hitting the market only have touch digitizers, but literature about them never mentions pen capability one way or the other.

Microsoft and OEMs making Windows tablets need to work together to make sure that every device coming to market is plainly labeled in a way that makes it clear to buyers what they are getting. This may require a branding program for tablets with and without pen control, or a logo program of some kind. Tablet makers and Microsoft are going to have a hard enough time competing with Apple and Google Android without creating a confusing message.

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RE: The pending perception problem with Windows tablets
JACOBSONR 14th Oct
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Before I will worry about pen functionality. I will worry about performance. Who many minutes it will take to start a Win7 tablet?
@eboraks: there is no way to properly run any "serious" applications with low memory, speed and UI which is designed for 24-30" screens, and for lighter applications Windows and that tablet hardware is total overkill.

Windows tablets are pointless devices except for few unique cases. Lighter tablets (like iPad 2) will do much better with much less size, weight, better battery life and yet quicker operation.

It is not "perception" problem, it is Windows tablets problem.
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Define "lighter application"
FADS_z 9th Mar 2011
@denisrs
Try office, it is never a overkill application.
@FADS_z: 3D charts, formulas, calculations, outlining, formatting (and AirPrint).
@denisrs
Try iWorks for iPad -- it does every major thing an office does
Yes, but not quite. I bought the pieces of iWorks for my iPad and tried using it for real work

It does BUT only if I stick to simple things. It has a very annoying habit of reformatting my documents, not handling more complex spreadsheet data (links and custom formulas) and loves to make havoc of presentations that are more than simple.

I frequently end up spending as much time fixing as I did trying to use. now I just view and make notes; on a pad of paper.....

iWorks for iPad.
It's a start.
It does have a long way to go....

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agreed
Tom6 10th Mar 2011
@denisrs
Windows programs are too slow and resource hungry to survive well outside of proper desktops. Hence the failure of netbooks that function smoothly and fast with other OSes.
Regards from
Tom happy
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Well while you're at it
LTV10 11th Mar 2011
Throw in AutoCAD and Adobe Premier. Turn it into a 5lb. brick with 2 hours of battery time. That will make the windoze fanbuis happy.
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@denisrs You are correct that most serious windows applications need a large screen and that the Slate 500, in particular has less of a battery life than an iPad. However the Slate 500 does have 2gb of memory as well as 64gb SSD which is enough for almost any windows program to run well. Additionally the dock for the Slate has 2 additional USB2 ports, audio port, charger connection as well as a video HDMI port if you want to connect your 30" screen to the 1.5lb Slate!
@eboraks starting from fully shutdown takes 27 seconds (0.5 minutes), but I don't usually shut it down. Hibernate takes 20 seconds to come back from, but Sleep only takes 2 seconds.
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Slate 500 boot time
peterskine@... 30th Mar 2011
@eboraks The HP Slate 500 starts in a couple of seconds from it's normal sleep mode. From a cold start the boot time is around 30 seconds. This is pretty much the same as any iPad. One of the strongest features is it is fully Windows 7, important for those users which have software which is not available on the apple platform. It's cost is $100 more than the 64gb iPad 2 but it does have USB2 and SD card slots.
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What perception problems? Everyone knows of Microsoft Windows and how good it is. Sounds like you are trying to shift the blame from the OEMs to Microsoft for pen input. If the OEMs are claiming that then its their responsibility to answer to the consumers. Microsoft just provided them with the platform, they can build onto it if they wish with pen support.
@Loverock Davidson

They have a perception problem. Everyone knows Windows and what a POS it is.

It's a known fact that few who go away from Windows ever go back. The problem is letting them know there are viable options other than Windows.

People associate MS with Junk.
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@itguy08
It is?
I tried Mac, found myself spending most of my time in Win7....
So I went back to Win7; on a Win7 notebook.
IMHO - Win7 is way better then OSX - it just works.

@zenwalker

Is part of working that html tag you embedded?
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@Loverock Davidson And that's why iPad sold more in the short time it was out last year than EVERY WINDOWS TABLET EVER SOLD..

Got that Loverock? EVERY WINDOWS TABLET EVER SOLD.

More than XP + Vista + 7 COMBINED...IN LESS THAN A YEAR.

Got any more comments for the peanut gallery?

Thought not.
@Brick Tamland

So Windows is a POS and "everyone" knows it? That's what passes as argument from the fringe? Over 90% of the world use Windows in preference to a free, but simple OS Linux or the lipstick on a pig style Unix that is OS/X.

As to sales figures Brick (appropriate name for an iPad fanboi) look up pet rocks, they also sold a lot. Remember there's one born every minute wink
@Brick Tamland
In its first year of sale windows 7 capture more desktop market shares than all apple desktop users in existence. See how you can use statistics to say whatever you want?

Oh by the way, they sold 14 million ipads....It takes about 2 weeks to sell that many PCs.

And as for practical, browse through the job sites and compare the number of apple jobs vs PC jobs. And then compare the salaries too. Thats why people stick with windows.
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How does it actually behave?
Robert Hahn 9th Mar 2011
The average Windows app doesn't know touch from Shinola, so there must be some layer of software in Windows-for-tablets that acts as a shim between various kinds of touches and the mouse input that the app is expecting.

How well does this work? How long does it take to get proficient at operating apps with fingers instead of mice? How accurate is the placement of the mouse pointer... with a real mouse you can get down to the pixel, but hamfisted me would have a tough time doing that with my finger. How does the device deal with that?
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Capacitive stylus
pj.de.bruin 9th Mar 2011
Those wanting pen input can buy a capacitive stylus, so I see little point in this story.
@pj.de.bruin THANK YOU! I was just about to post the same thing. If the tablet ships with a Capacitive Stylus (which is made of a material that basically conducts the electricity of your hand), then it's all good. Sure, there will be a few morons or kids who lose the stylus and try using a ballpoint pen but... who cares. lol
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@pj.de.bruin I think this does not work as well as an "active digitiser". Also a capacitive screen will recognise any pressure on the screen including your palm, whereas a pen input will only recognise the pen. You can therefore rest your hand on the screen.
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RE: The pending perception problem with Windows tablets
Socratesfoot Updated - 10th Mar 2011
Today in the news...people buying cars are surprised they no longer have to start them with cranks and have to instead replace the batteries after a while. Also, these same people were disappointed to discover that numbers would have to be dialed to call another person and that they would no longer be directed through a series of switchboard operators. They were also disappointed to find that there was no longer any screeching noise or bleeps to let them know when they got on the Internet.

This says more about the typical Windows users reception to change then it does about the technology itself. If the OS and software is not tailored to touch, don't use it, go with an OS/architecture that supports it better, and stop buying things purely so that you have backwards compatibility with that old DOS based Point of Sale software you bought in '83.
@Socratesfoot
I hear you but.............. chuckle
I need the MS software for my work activities and a good number of my personal activities - I share calenders, contacts, todo lists, travel, etc......

A Win7 tablet really intrigues me but it will have to be as easy to use as a notebook with Win7.
Or give me a real way to run MS software on Android or iOS or......

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You can't fight perception. You can only ride it out. Its true of any celebrity or singer. Once the public decides they don't like they, they will be vilified for a long time until something happens. Take michael jackson for example. A week before he died, he was a big joke and everyone called him a pedophile. A week after he died, those same people called him a genius.

MS in terms of tablets have to prove themselves far harder than apple or google tablets. They have their fan based and will love whatever they put out.
MS should just lay low until they can work with someone to put out a INCREDIBLE tablet then tout it. Its too soon for them to do that now and not worth it.
@rengek
Most non-tech users (and even a lot of those) have no clue when you say Windows Tablet.
They say "It's out? When? Where? How much?".
For the average consumer they will expect it to operate much the same way an iPad or an Android Tablet does.

Question is; will it?

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Everyone keeps saying it's too expensive compared to the iPad - but that's rubbish.

The Slate comes with 64GB of storage - which puts it on par with the top end iPad WiFi model. The Slate is $800 - the iPad 64GB/WiFi is $700... so it's just $100 more - but for that extra $100, you get a real digitising pen with pressure support, 2GB of RAM, USB, integrated SD card reader, Bluetooth 3.0 with an uncrippled protocol stack, a dock/stand with two more USB ports AND HDMI out and a custom leather folio.

Now, let's add the SD card reader ($30), the HDMI dongle($30), the leather cover ($70), the dock ($30) and we're up $160 over the $700 base price - making the iPad MORE expensive than the Slate and we're still out a digitiser pen and three USB ports.

The perception problem is that Apple made a very inexpensive and minimal feature version of the iPad which everyone uses as a comparison baseline, even when it's totally inappropriate.
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Agreed but Apples and Oranges comparison
The Star King 11th Mar 2011
@TheWerewolf The Slate is an impressive device and perhaps better value than the iPad depending on how you look at it. HP should certainly advertise it, perhaps adverts with happy students writing notes in a lecture theatre to emphasise its inking capabilities.

But the Slate cannot really be compared to the iPad because the focus of the devices is very different. iPad is not really a PC, its an entertainment device. This causes a lot of confusion with tech reviewers comparing it to a PC and finding it has shortcomings in terms of "speeds and feeds". This is missing the point, the "minimal" features of the iPad are its strength.

In the future I see a gap opening up between iPad (and clones) and PC. The former being used for entertainment and the latter for business. PCs have never been very good at handling games/multimedia (if they were, why do so many people buy consoles?). The sheer generality and customisablity of a PC is its problem when it comes to using it for leisure/entertainment.
@The Star King I agree with you entirely. But unfortunately (as this article does) everyone DOES compare them. And it's always a weird comparison where the differences are ignored or diminished to try and level the comparison out - a tactic that always gives the iPad the advantage.
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I feel it's very important to inform consumers whether the device can handle pen or not. I bought my HP Touchsmart last year (pre-iPad release) for touch AND pen use - I would say I use pen more than touch.

People seeing my notebook at work always assume it's an iPad until I show them the keyboard and pen - then they think it's super cool! happy

Yes, it's heavy, and it was expensive. However I can do so much with it (like type this quickly on the physical keyboard while it is connected to my 32-in LCD TV via HDMI). Would I change for iPad 2? Nope!
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So many bits wrong here..
TheWerewolf 8th Jun
The biggest one:

"This is part of the reason [HP Slate 500] is expensive when compared to the iPad with touch only."

No, the only reason it's expensive is because people keep comparing it to the lowest end iPad. The 16GB WiFi only iPad is $499. The 64GB Slate (with pen) is $799. The 64GB iPad is $699 - just $100 off. Also, the Slate comes with a dock, a leather folio, integrated USB port and SD card reader - if you get that for the 64GB iPad, you end up over $799.

And that's not even factoring in the pen!

Where HP blew it is not offering a minimal system - 16GB with no dock or folio included - at $499 to compete directly with the lowest end iPad.

But then you'd be writing why Windows sucks anyway, so what's the point?

Anyway, I have a Slate 500 - and I can tell you from personal experience - even running Windows 7 - it blows the iPad away.
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gimme my stylus
Monkeypox 8th Jun
and my Windows tablet and I'll be rocking hard!
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