More on Illinois

Summary: The study has a headline number: $10.5 million in savings, but no basis for that is given and published vendor data make it clear that this estimate is utterly indefensible.

One of the interesting omissions from the Microsoft case study cited yesterday is any support for the claim that the Wintel decision will save the state $10.5 million over five years.

It's the headline number and one we're not supposed to question - but put it in the context of 57,000 PCs over five years and it works out to 15.3 cents per working day - not exactly a lot, and but still something that we should be able to check up on.

In fact, however, I wasn't able to find anything - indeed Microsoft fails to either raise or address three distinct groups of questions about this number:

  1. how was it derived?

  2. who's $10.5 million is it? and,

  3. how does that estimate compare to the savings that would have been cited had other people done comparable analyses in the context of alternative technical options?

We have no information on group one - I could find no published analysis whose assumptions or results we can ask questions about and no publically available audit results to show how realistic this number has turned out to be.

We do have some information about group two: whose dollars these are. Ultimately, of course, these are tax payer dollars - but the situation summary in the Microsoft report tells us about some of the intermediate players. Specifically it says:

In the past, each agency was responsible for its own hardware and software procurement, implementation, and management, resulting in a vast number of disparate operating systems and applications. The state opted to consolidate all the agencies's IT services into a single entity called the Bureau of Communication and Computer Services (BCCS) in the Department of Central Management Services (CMS)

The very best best assumption you can make, therefore, is that the BCCS five year plan for the affected services is $10.5 million less than the total they got by asking each agency about current spending on desktop and messaging services. Unfortunately it's a sure bet that not a single one of the agencies involved would have had either a clear five year cost projection for the status quo or any motivation to share accurate numbers with an imposed central authority.

In the context of that decisive $10.5 million dollar savings it's important to remember, therefore, that a guess made up from multiple guesses, all of them self-serving, isn't any better than a guess made up, by the group most likely to benefit from its acceptance, as big enough to matter but too small to challenge.

The report says they decided against things - against IBM because they saw Lotus Smartsuite as less integrated than Exchange and Office, against GroupWise because Novell was going Linux, and against Linux because it's just a "science project" - but there's no information about the third set of cost issues: how did the cost of these alternatives compare?

On that, however, we can use external information to make some guesses. For example, because the list price for Lotus smartsuite for Windows was about one third that for the Microsoft product set selected and IBM's policy at the time was to reduce the price to meet customer expectations, it seems highly unlikely that BCCS could have mounted a capital cost argument for their decision - and because IBM has since moved the product to Linux any argument based on operating cost would have evaporated too.

Since you can do the same with the Novell option, the bottom line is that there's no possible way to get either capital or long term operating costs for the Microsoft solution below those of its alternatives. The $10.5 million must, therefore, have come from inputed user productivity gains - apparently worth 15.3 cents more per user day than the extra cost of buying and supporting Microsoft.

Think outside the box, furthermore, and the fact that they don't disclose anything about their cost structure while listing only traditional client-server options for rejection, suggests that they probably didn't look at migrating to Solaris with Sun Ray desktops.

Had they done so, however, they could have used Windows servers to deliver all of the software they appear to value, while completely avoiding the forced march to Vista, dual core processors on every desktop, and next year's Windows Server 2008 incompatibilities -all of which is going to cost the Illinois taxpayer an average of about $1,800 per user -roughly $100 million new Wintel dollars in total.

And if that's not enough - there are ginzu knives in the offing, or, at least, another beautifully written put down of the whole Windows imposition by BCCS. This one is by another unknown writer contributing to Sun's Java desktop system write-up:

Designed to thrive in a Windows-centric world, Java Desktop System interoperates with Microsoft Office files, networked Windows printers, and Exchange servers as well as standards-based LDAP, mail, calendar, and Web servers.

Basically, if Illinois had stayed with Lotus or GroupWise they'd now be transitioning to Linux and either SmartSuite or OpenOffice; if they'd evaluated and selected Solaris 10 with Sun Ray desktops they could have kept all their Windows software except the desktop OSes and now be transitioning smoothly and at virtually no cost to standards-based products like OpenOffice, Lotus Domino, and Sun's java desktop system.

Know what I think they're doing instead? Evaluating hardware to run Vista, fighting a losing battle on control and security, re-inventing mainframe era administrative controls to keep those state agencies in line, and figuring out how to justify their next hundred million in hardware and software upgrades.

Topics: Linux, Hardware, IBM, Microsoft, Open Source, Windows

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  • Lawyers? Opposition?

    If the scheme is anything like as excessively expensive and risky as you fear then surely it is a gift for the political opposition?

    And are there no tax-payer groups ready to sue?
    Ross44
    • Doubtful.

      Suing for the selection of Windows and Office, the usual products, would I think be a very difficult case. Criticizing a State agency for streamlining procurement and operations would be... counter-intuitive.

      It's possible that Illinois reports in the future will brag to taxpayers about the efficiency and money saved.
      Anton Philidor
      • What new?

        Isn't that what all money-grubbing
        politicians do?
        Ole Man
    • Nope.

      You forget. This is Illinois we're talking about. There is no political opposition. Illinois government is run by a bi-partisan combine/old boy network of Republicans downstate and Democrats in Cook County (Chicago area). Anyone not selected to toe the line by this combine doesn't have a prayer of getting elected. The real story on this 10.5 million is exactly who's pocket it went into. We'll never know that unless the Federal DOJ brings it out in court while sending one of these guys to prison. BTW, that's how we remove elected officials here in Illinois since they're basically elected for life. We just sent our last governor away and Blago, the current one, is under investigation.
      slopoke
    • That would be a difficult argument to make

      Yes it's expensive and yes it incurs far more security and failure risk than the alternatives should. Underline "Should" because that assumes expertise - put wintel people in charge of Lotus on Linux and you get a disaster...

      The real issues here are dereliction of duty, personal agrandizement at taxpayer cost, and the imposition of a data processing view of user control on users. None of those are, as far as I know, actionable in any practical sense today. Remember courts can't judge might-have-beens or should-have-beens, only what is, or was and that means the alternatives can't be cited in such an action.- ergo, no action is likely to succeed.
      murph_z
      • Double Disappointment

        1. Here in the UK you could apply for a juducial review of whether the proper procedure had been carried out
        (Re the dereliction of duty angle - failure to do due diligence on a big procurement exercise - there must be some rules somewhere). You would have to come up with some funds, but not such a large sum that a modestly sized protest group with some support couldn't manage. You might not be granted a JR, but you would worry people while they waited to see if you were

        2. Anyway / failing that, I increasingly tend to blame those in charge in such situations - in countries with some sort of democracy and some sort of free press - that's us dear fellow voters

        So - it seems that once again, this time in the public admin sphere, we neeed a reference installation. Where is that (US) state (or Canadian province) that is saving immense sums by using [insert favourite nix] on [delete one:] SunRays / cheap PC's?
        Ross44
      • no action is likely to succeed

        You got that right!

        Everybody knows what is going on, but nobody
        does anything about it, because anybody who
        has the power to do anything is either on
        the take himself (or herself, let's not
        discriminate against the ladies, here), or
        doesn't have gonads to do anything about it.

        If you want to know where the money goes,
        look under the table. That's the route it
        always takes. If you missed it, it's only
        because you're too slow.
        Ole Man
  • State agencies

    Government is often resistant to change and not willing to be innovative in ways that involve risk. When new software produces difficulties the press is able to criticize and to identify those responsible for whatever inconvenience the public or large numbers of employees have suffered.

    That makes governments amenable to choosing standard products and changing them slowly. Budget line items for Windows and Office may be accepted easily. Especially by comparison to the staffing, consultant, software and hardware costs for this scenario (from the Comment):

    "Basically, if Illinois had stayed with Lotus or GroupWise they???d now be transitioning to Linux and either SmartSuite or OpenOffice; if they???d evaluated and selected Solaris 10 with Sun Ray desktops they could have kept all their Windows software except the desktop OSes and now be transitioning smoothly and at virtually no cost to standards-based products like OpenOffice, Lotus Domino, and Sun???s java desktop system."



    If the dollar amount could be proven lower in future years, that would not necessarily justify the project. State budgets are considered for one or two years at a time.

    There's reason Microsoft profits increase quarter after quarter, and it's not only the blazing sales of new products like Vista. It's also lasting sales where IT must be considered a problem solved.

    I know, those who have to keep the system working may consider that statement ironic. But the idea that Microsoft is an install and ignore solution is widespread among those controlling outlays.
    Anton Philidor
    • There is a grain of truth in you spin

      " Microsoft is an install and ignore
      solution" alright.

      Their solution is you install your money in
      their bank and they ignore you.

      Tell us another one. That one wasn't funny
      enough.
      Ole Man
      • I think you mis-read Anton

        he isn't saying that MS is an"install and forget" solution, he's saying that it sells because it's sold to senior management as an install and forget solution.
        murph_z
        • Maybe so, Murph... nooo, absolutely so

          But there is is also a grain of truth between the lines of Anton's posts most of the time. His posts goes over the heads of many readers and I like to add a little sarcasm in between his lines sometimes.

          I don't see anybody taking anything seriously, here, anyway.
          Ole Man
  • State worker

    I have been through a variety of standardization project. The biggest cost is the waste of my time in converting applications and suffering through long wait times for Access queries to "turn over". We threw away years of acquired Wordperfect templates to convert to Word. Same with Lotus and FoxPro. Then for routine data crunching requirements we have to use Access instead of SAS/SPSS. I applaud the US DOJ that has maintained Wordperfect. The principle that no one ever got fired for choosing IBM in the 80's is alive and well today for Microsoft.
    murphbill
    • Thanks for speaking up!

      You'll like my comment tomorrow.
      murph_z
  • Get over it

    So Illinois still has some rational people in government (although according to the strange right-wing people here, government MUST be bad)

    Their crime appears to be choosing the most integrated and sophisticated software that their people are familiar with. Instead they should have put together some open source apps, some version of the myriad versions of *nix and keep it all together with string and chewing gum.

    You seem to have been working on museums so long Murph that you just don't understand professional software or the reasons people use Microsoft. Luckily over 90% of the world does use it and your beliefs (while both quirky and annoying) simply don't matter a hill of beans.
    tonymcs@...
    • If that gum on your shoes from kicking Open Source

      around bothers you, just wait until you see
      the symptoms of the poison in all that
      Microsoft cheese you've been eating.

      You might better buy a few shares of
      Alka-Seltzer and start stocking up on the
      meds.
      Ole Man
  • Too bad all the old cowboys ride the range no more

    They'd have a round-up, tar and
    feather the rascals, and ride them
    out of town on rails.

    The "users" would shake their heads
    at the sight, cluck in pity for them,
    and save $100 million in their grief.
    Ole Man