ie8 fix
madison

Networking

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing

By | June 2, 2011, 11:19am PDT

Summary: Chrome keeps growing despite competition from Internet Explorer 9 and Firefox 4.

Slowly but surely IE loses and Chrome gains.

Slowly but surely IE loses and Chrome gains.

The latest NetMarketShare Web browser numbers are out for May 2011, and they show Chrome growing faster than any of the other browsers with Internet Explorer (IE) continuing its slow decline.

I’ve always thought that Microsoft restricting Internet Explorer (IE) 9 to Vista and Windows 7 was a mistake. What I hadn’t realized that even on Windows 7, IE 9 was going to face such an uphill battle for mind share. On Windows 7, where Microsoft unexpectedly started pushing IE9 to users via Windows Update in April instead of June, IE 9 still has only 12.04% of the market.

Indeed, while IE 8 is Windows 7’s number one Web browser with a healthy, but declining 42.51%, Chrome 11, with 14.82%, and Firefox 4 with 14.05% are both ahead of IE 9. If you lump in Firefox 3.6’s numbers, 8.52%, with Firefox 4’s share, Firefox has almost twice as much market share on Windows 7 as does IE 9.

Now, Internet Explorer isn’t going to die off. In fact, as Microsoft gets ready to copycat Google Chrome OS and Apple’s iOS, instead of Mac OS X, for Windows 8, IE 10 will be more important than ever. While Windows 8 won’t be a cloud-based operating system that relies on its browser for everything, it’s certainly moving that way.

Unfortunately, when it comes to Web browsers, users are no longer following IE. Yes, IE is still the most popular Web browser, but when you look at the larger world of browsers all operating systems and platforms, IE is losing.

I think it’s very telling that Microsoft will soon start supporting Microsoft Office Web apps with its Office 2010 SP1 release. Microsofties doubtlessly hate Chrome, but they know they have to support it now.

I also consider it noteworthy that despite the pushing IE 9 out to users, May actually saw IE’s overall usage drop by 0.84% compared to its twelve month average drop of 0.54%. In the meantime, Chrome is now used by one in eight users. It’s market deltas-the rate of change-like that which makes me quite sure that Chrome OS and Chromebooks will prove the first significant threat to Windows on the work desktop in decades.

Depressingly enough I have to report that IE 6 still has 10.36% of the market. Please, please let IE 6 just go away!

While IE 6, like cockroaches, won’t die, the other standalone browsers’ future, Firefox and Opera, doesn’t look so bright. While Firefox is still an important browser, and its users were far happier to switch to Firefox 4 than IE users were to move to IE 9, and Opera continues to hold its modest stakes, neither is tied into an operating system the way that Chrome is with Chrome OS, IE is with Windows, and Apple’s Safari is with iOS. Just counting iPads alone, Safari has 0.92% of the Web browser market.

At this rate I foresee in 2013, a world where Chrome, IE, and Safari, in that order, are the dominant browsers on modern hardware. I wouldn’t be shocked though to see Safari, yes Safari, ahead of IE. Mobile platforms are where the action’s at, and I seriously doubt that Microsoft can get the multi-platform Windows 8 out before 2013 at the earliest.

Related Stories:

Chrome browser makes steady gains

Chrome 11: The Best Browser?

Microsoft Office Web Apps to officially support Chrome with Office 2010 Service Pack 1

Four Reasons Firefox 4 can make a go of it–And one reason why it can’t.

Five Reasons not to “Upgrade” to Windows’ Internet Explorer 9

Kick off your day with ZDNet's daily e-mail newsletter. It's the freshest tech news and opinion, served hot. Get it.

Topics

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system

Disclosure

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols is a freelance writer. He does not own stocks or other investments in any technology company.

Biography

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system; 300bps was a fast Internet connection; WordStar was the state of the art word processor; and we liked it.

His work has been published in everything from highly technical publications (IEEE Computer, ACM NetWorker, Byte) to business publications (eWEEK, InformationWeek, ZDNet) to popular technology (Computer Shopper, PC Magazine, PC World) to the mainstream press (Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, BusinessWeek).

Related Discussions on TechRepublic

Did you know you can take part in these discussions with your ZDNet membership?
170
Comments

Join the conversation!

Just In

RE: Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing
bezal 11th Sep
Nothing more than an average internet user, but I do have and do use IE, Chrome and Firefox. Its a pretty simple decision making process for me: 1) Want secure? Go FireFox plus a few standard security/privacy add-ons 2) Want something fast? Go Chrome or 3) All of the others fail for some unknown compatibility reason? Go IE, but expect a tsunami of assaults from unknown nad unwanted toolbars and random garbage that I never realised I installed.
0 Votes
+ -
Chrome -> IE9
Alansonit 2nd Jun
Having terrible performance on my mid range PC. Not sure why but over time Chrome has started to underperform so my next transition is pretty much set in stone.
0 Votes
+ -
@Alansonit IE9 seems to lock up for 30 seconds at a time and crash more often than IE8 for me. It's horrible. Not to mention that IE64 doesn't run most plugins including many Microsoft ones like Mesh remote desktop. What a joke.
0 Votes
+ -
The lack of 64-bit plugins isn't IE's fault.

I also don't get the lockups you do. Maybe something is wrong with your computer?
0 Votes
+ -
@LarsDennert
The IE team has said the 64bit version exists solely because they were told to make one. And the 32bit version has the fast javascript engine. By default 32bit should be running, but if you changed that it might be a good idea to move that back to 32bit.

The plugins are already written for 32bit and need work by their developers to work on 64bit. So, if you run 32bit IE9 you should be fine.
0 Votes
+ -
@LarsDennert You're using it wrong then, because IE9 hasn't crashed once on me. Firefox on the other hand crashes at least 3 times a day.

As for this article, yes Steven, we know you hate Microsoft. That's the only reason your insipid article exist.
0 Votes
+ -
@JoeHTH

You're using it wrong then, because IE9 hasn't crashed once on me. Firefox on the other hand crashes at least 3 times a day.

You're using it wrong then because FF4 hasn't crashed once on me.
@LarsDennert Don't run IE64. There is zero reason to. Even on 64 bit, use 32 bit IE.
@CobraA1
It's a lot easier to randomize a 64 bit address space effectively than a 32 bit one, and so you get more protection with ASLR using 64 bit IE.

I was also under the impression that DEP was "AlwaysOn" under 64 bit Windows, although it now seems that MS chickened out and chose to make "OptOut" the default instead. (Presumably not for the sake of buggy legacy code, although that will soon become the case now...)
0 Votes
+ -
@LarsDennert
Hence I continued to use Chrome. However, I really missed some of the IE9 features (webslices) and at some point I set out to figure out what the problem was.

It turned out that the problem was an nVidia driver problem. Updating to the latest driver has IE9 running smooth - much smoother than Chrome, actually.

I'm now divided - using Chrome 50% and IE9 50% roughly.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing
megamanx Updated - 7th Jun
@LarsDennert I use Chromium-based ChromePlus!, IE9, and Firefox 7.0a1 and Palemoon 4.0.7. None of them lock up on me, and I am on Vista 32-bit. You just don't know how to work Windows, lack of knowledge makes you biased.

You need to be up-to-date or you would have known about the IE issues, a month or earlier prior to using IE9, knowing that the 64-bit version isn't compatible with many aspects, so they default to the 32-bit.
0 Votes
+ -
@JoeHTH

If your FF is crashing 3 times a day then why to you keep using it? Does IE not meet your needs?
0 Votes
+ -
Big deal, once people make the transition from IE6/7/8 to IE9 and from XP to Windows 7 the jump in IE9 usage will be very sharp. Only the techies are using Chrome so don't expect that number to get much higher than the 15% its at right now. Especially with all the negative press about Google lately, chrome really doesn't have much chance. Hope they enjoyed it while they could. Now its up to IE and FF to battle it out.
0 Votes
+ -
@LoverockDavidson
Are you frickin serious? I'm a "techie", and everyone I know uses Chrome, techie or not!

Every "Techie" like myself will be madly installing Chrome on every family members PC. I even changed my mum's Chrome icon to IE's so she could find it!

As Chrome hits critical mass, I expect it's use to accelerate, not stagnate. Here in New Zealand at least, it is quickly becoming the standard.

MS made a MASSIVE mistake not releasing IE9 for XP - now when my Mum upgrades to Win7 (in 2020), she will be wanting good old familiar Chrome, not IE9 SP2 (which will probably be the current version in 2020 at the pace MS moves).

You're a dreamer.
0 Votes
+ -
Message has been deleted.
i8thecat3 Updated - 2nd Jun
  • Flagged
0 Votes
+ -
@ALISON SMOCK

' I'm a "techie", and everyone I know uses Chrome, techie or not!'
'Every "Techie" like myself will be madly installing Chrome on every family members PC. I even changed my mum's Chrome icon to IE's so she could find it!'

Well of course they're all running it. You're telling them to.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing
ghosthawk Updated - 2nd Jun
@ALISON SMOCK

Look 1st of all I just sign up to this dumb site just to let you know this because you are such an ignorant person I think it would be a crime if i just walked away.

Please read and experience the product 1st before you bash on it don't just sit here and act like your "techie" cuz no one gives a **** just because some of your friends said IE9 sucks and microsoft sucks you jump on that bandwagon its pathetic seriously.

IE9 is leaps away and IE10 is on the works already but your too busy just hearing what other people say don't believe me?

http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Info/ReleaseNotes/Default.html

Straight from the source baby cakes now please shut up and stop talking like chrome is all that, even FF4 owns it
  • Flagged
0 Votes
+ -
@ALISON SMOCK

You should really get out more. Of course I only do work with major government and commercial organisations who would never even consider Firefox let alone Chrome - How do you define malware if an advertising company offers you a browser?
  • Flagged
0 Votes
+ -
@ALISON SMOCK

funny... i like it
0 Votes
+ -
@ALISON SMOCK
See now your the opposite of myself. I am a techy and electronics builkder and web designers and I hate Chrome. Its slow and its UI is horrible and its rendering on most platforms stalls and freezes. IE is well its just ie. All the techs I know prefer FireFox and Opera. I prefer Firefox 3.6 to 4 as $ doesnt seem as fast and the new UI isn't very good. When i speed test firefox always wins over all other browsers when using used on same machines and isp's.
0 Votes
+ -
@ALISON SMOCK ... we all were a while back, but you need to give IE9 some serious attention. It's faster (according to most tests) and MUCH more secure. I would not recommend Chrome to anyone. If you have XP, you need a new OS/machine.
0 Votes
+ -
@ALISON SMOCK I use both... big deal. Stupid article. I no longer use FF, it looks like XP. Chrome is OK, it has issues with websites. IE 9 works on more sites, I just flip back and forth.
0 Votes
+ -
Darkninja962@... LMAO - obvious, well to some and too funny.
0 Votes
+ -
Fanaticism?
tom@... 4th Jun
@ALISON SMOCK "everyone I know uses Chrome, techie or not!"

Everyone you know must be a very small circle of people. Web stats on 3 sites I keep stats on, show almost no Chrome useage.

"users are no longer following IE. Yes, IE is still the most popular Web browser, ..."
Huh? You follow that with how it's not ... ?? Misusing numbers is quite evident here.

"IE?s overall usage drop by 0.84% compared to its twelve month average drop of 0.54%. In the meantime, Chrome is now used by one in eight users. "
1 in 8 is 0.125: Use similar units or convey phoney information to those whom you think won't notice? Anything less than 1% is negligible anyway, and dubject to being thrown out as inaccuracies are often detected at the far ends of the bell curve; goth ends. What are you writing here, anyway?

"It?s market deltas-the rate of change-like that which makes me quite sure that Chrome OS and Chromebooks will prove the first significant threat to Windows on the work desktop in decades."

Really? If you think Chrome is first to impact IE's acceptance rate, you are totally and completely WRONG!

"At this rate I foresee in 2013, a world where Chrome, IE, and Safari, in that order, are the dominant browsers on modern hardware."
You are leaving out so many possibilities with that statement that it's incredible. The world is not going to stand still over the next few years with no new entrants, improved entrants, and becoming-educated neophytes that the prediction is useless at best.

I can see where, properly written, with clarity and attention to details, it could have been an excellent article. But, it almost appears as though you wrote it either during or after the prepping for a hangover. Your tactics and mix of numeric units though makes it appear as though all you really are trying to do is mix the stats to prove some point you wish to show, not what they really show.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing
TGM_1979 Updated - 5th Jun
@ALISON SMOCK
Wowee - lots of Windows trolls. Let get things straight here. IE9 is much improved and they're finally (after what, 16 years?) *beginning* to adhere to web standards. That's why people recommend Chrome and Firefox to their families. ActiveX is finally *looking* secure on IE (after ~11 years I believe) and when they pit IE against a benchmark *which isn't their own* they'll compare rather than be way out of the game in terms of performance.

You have a good point. You can't have any of this without Windows 7. Most people are happy with their WinXP install and their current PC. So they have to use IE8 (slow, webdev's nightmare) or use Chrome or Firefox. (Firefox still best for privacy out of the 3, but slower than Chrome IMHO). So yes most people will stick with what they know when (if?) they move to Win7.

Too little, too demanding, too late MS.

And just to add: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13639875
0 Votes
+ -
@ALISON SMOCK You must work for Google, or be about 22 years old and still dazzled by anything new. Chrome will not do everything I need for business uses, so I use IE 7-8-9 most of the time (all 3 versions work!), and sometimes Firefox. I like Google, but restrict it to personal use since it can't do what I need for some business operations.
Call me when chrome get full hardware acceleration!!
0 Votes
+ -
Chrome wins
HollywoodDog 2nd Jun
@jatbains ... it has it's own process manager and separate process for each tab, handled at application level, not OS - the way it should be.
0 Votes
+ -
The only thing that Chrome has is the application level stuff, not that it matters. IE 9 and Chrome are about the same, both are great.
0 Votes
+ -
FYI
g@... 3rd Jun
IE had tab isolation, Extension isolation even before chrome did.But it doesn't have a tab manager
0 Votes
+ -
I don't think IE was first
HollywoodDog 3rd Jun
@HollywoodDog ... maybe you're right. But applications should take care of themselves, not pester the operating system.

Just like you shouldn't go to your boss with problems. You should update your boss after the fact on the problems that came up that you handled yourself.
0 Votes
+ -
Chrome is malware
itpro_z 2nd Jun
Wow. IE still has over a 50% share, while Chrome is only about 14%, yet you believe that Chrome is winning? What color is the sky in your world?

I end up finding Chrome on a lot of computers, but have yet to have anyone tell me that they intentionally installed it. Most say they have no idea how it got there. I remove it on sight since it tends to break some of our in-house apps. Chrome is nothing but malware in my book.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing
info@... Updated - 2nd Jun
@itpro_z
Got to agree there, I see Chrome installed all the time but never on purpose. If it wasn't for Adobe and Java installing it as an option most users don't even notice, their share would likely be well under 5% of the market.
0 Votes
+ -
@info@... Ouch forgot about those that is correct, it is crapware...
@info@... vs IE which is forced on you when you install Windows?
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing
Those who hunt Trolls 5th Jun
@info@...

I don't mind it so much. It runs better on an XP machine I use for work, but personally, all my PC's have IE9 for FF. I like IE9 alot and as far as add-ons, I still love FF's for the added functionality. With these 2, never really felt the need for Chrome, but it's still a nice browser.
0 Votes
+ -
@itpro_z Have used FF forever, and Netscape before that. BUT FF4 has hung up too often with fewer tabs open (say 20-30), whereas FF3.x could have 50 or more tabs open....okay, you don't need to tell me, it is just how I live life. I installed Chrome, which seems to use more RAM, but it is fast as hell as long as I have under 20 tabs open -- so I am learning to live life with fewer tabs... I like it, I chose it, and I am a 63 year old non-techie.
0 Votes
+ -
I am sure that some do
itpro_z 2nd Jun
@bigsteve666, just by reading the posts here it is not hard to see that some like Chrome, but that does not change my point that it gets downloaded unintentionally on many computers. I don't like software that forces its way onto computers, and right now Google is the absolute worst at that. I also don't like software that breaks things, and we have had problems with Chrome doing that, even after it was uninstalled.

I also like FF, but have not had the problems with FF4 that some of you have reported. I also very much like IE9, which is faster than Chrome without the Google spyware.
0 Votes
+ -
Have to agree
facebook@... 2nd Jun
@itpro_z

I am sure one of my machines that I installed Chrome on once is listed. The blight is nearly impossible to remove, wreaking havoc on my Outlook client, of all things.

SJVN's pedantic view of open source does not allow him much leeway to do meaningful analysis and reviews. Instead, he uses emotionally charged innuendo and poor math to suggest that Chrome is on a straight line to 100%.

I would like to see someone on this forum, one would think the putative open source expert, to write an in-depth article of Moveable Type 4's exploit at PBS and quality control challenges found in open source instead of the plaintive wailings about Microsoft.
0 Votes
+ -
@facebook@... I wonder why he didnt title his posting "Chrome poised to overtake Firefox in marketshare".
0 Votes
+ -
@otaddy
I wonder why he didnt title his posting "Chrome poised to overtake Firefox in marketshare".

Yes, although the relative loss for Firefox is less that than IE, Chrome will overtake Firefox fairly quickly based on his "analysis".
0 Votes
+ -
@facebook@... SJVN is only looking to insight readership. If only one could know that SJVN's name was attached to the article before they opened it... then we would know to just ignore the read.

When one opens an article and see that smirking face you know right away you are about to get a snow job.
@jessiethe3rd@... yet here you are.
0 Votes
+ -
correction of typos
Linux Geek 2nd Jun
@itpro_z
IE is malware not Chrome.
0 Votes
+ -
Malware
itpro_z 2nd Jun
According to Wikipedia: "Malware, short for malicious software, consists of programming (code, scripts, active content, and other software) designed to disrupt or deny operation, gather information that leads to loss of privacy or exploitation, gain unauthorized access to system resources, and other abusive behavior."

That pretty much describes everything that Google does.
0 Votes
+ -
Odd
ego.sum.stig@... 2nd Jun
I thought that definition of malware pretty much covered the everyday humdrum of code development, be it for some mobile thingy on up to my favourite, the mainframe.
0 Votes
+ -
@Linux Geek Google bought DoubleClick and made adware/malware the new hotness that everyone has just got to have. It's funny actually.
0 Votes
+ -
@Linux Geek You left the grill on during your smoke break dude
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing
TGM_1979 Updated - 5th Jun
@itpro_z heh. loss of privacy and exploitation? Windows! Just look at that EULA...
@itpro_z I am a windows developer. But I would say it is highly doubtful that your in-house applications are being broken by Chrome. It doesn't change anything that any of those applications would use and it runs in a separate process. Chrome is not malware by any description.
Secondly I've never seen an application even try to install it.
0 Votes
+ -
RE: Browser Wars: Chrome winning, IE losing
TGM_1979 Updated - 5th Jun
@DevGuy_z it's bundled with free AntiVirus software a lot now... Security concious?
Nothing more than an average internet user, but I do have and do use IE, Chrome and Firefox. Its a pretty simple decision making process for me: 1) Want secure? Go FireFox plus a few standard security/privacy add-ons 2) Want something fast? Go Chrome or 3) All of the others fail for some unknown compatibility reason? Go IE, but expect a tsunami of assaults from unknown nad unwanted toolbars and random garbage that I never realised I installed.

Join the conversation!

Formatting +
BB Codes - Note: HTML is not supported in forums
  • [b] Bold [/b]
  • [i] Italic [/i]
  • [u] Underline [/u]
  • [s] Strikethrough [/s]
  • [q] "Quote" [/q]
  • [ol][*] 1. Ordered List [/ol]
  • [ul][*] · Unordered List [/ul]
  • [pre] Preformat [/pre]
  • [quote] "Blockquote" [/quote]
ie8 fix
Click Here
ie8 fix

The best of ZDNet, delivered

ZDNet Newsletters

Get the best of ZDNet delivered straight to your inbox

Facebook Activity

White Papers, Webcasts, & Resources
ie8 fix
ie8 fix