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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Netflix: Bigger than cable. Too big for the Internet?

By | April 26, 2011, 2:13pm PDT

Summary: Netflix is now bigger than any single cable company. What does that mean for the Internet and your ISP bill?

According to the DVD and online video rental king Netflix’s last quarterly report, Netflix now has more subscribers than Comcast, the largest cable U.S. TV operator. 7% of all U.S. citizens now subscribe to Netflix. That’s great for Netflix but what about the Internet, on which it increasingly relies for its video transport?

Back in October, Netflix, and other video content were already taking up more bandwidth than any other single Internet service Gaming, Peer-to-Peer (P2P) file sharing, and Web surfing were all falling behind. It’s only gotten worse since then. When I recently looked at how much traffic IPv6 was transporting on the Internet, I found that Netflix, all by itself, was taking up 20%–the largest single share-of all Internet traffic.

There’s nothing wrong with that, but is there enough bandwidth on the Internet to support this if this video trend continues? I doubt it.

Internet Service Providers (ISPs) are capping their monthly services, ISPs, like Comcast, are also trying to charge Content Delivery Networks (CDNs), the high-speed Internet traffic backbones used by video services, such as Level 3 extra charges for their traffic.

The cable companies are in the odd place of having their comparatively low-revenue ISP services starting to eat their far more profitable cable TV services. On top of that, to supply the need for more and faster bandwidth, they need to upgrade their backbones to IEEE 802.3ba, the standard for 40 Gigabit Ethernet (GigE) and 100GigE Ethernet.

100GiigE may sound fast–and it is–but it’s not fast enough. Some people are already demanding, not mere Terabit networking, but 1.4Terabit networks. In the meantime, ISPs are still struggling to get 802.3ba up and running. And, let’s not even talk about how much trouble it is to get decent broadband in the last mile from the ISP to your home or office.

So what does all that mean for you? Well, it means you can expect to pay more for broadband and get less of it thanks to bandwidth caps. Someone is going to need to make up the revenue cable companies are starting to lose to Internet video and that someone will be you and me. On top of that, someone is going to need to pay for the network infrastructure and that means, again, we’re going to get stuck with the bill. Adding insult to injury, I expect we’re also going to need less reliable service as the existing Internet bends under the ever heavier demands of video watchers and mobile users.

If we’re lucky the Internet won’t break. But, I can certainly see Internet “brownouts” as a real possibility in 2012.

Lucky us.

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system; 300bps was a fast Internet connection; WordStar was the state of the art word processor; and we liked it.

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Cable ISPs will use this complication to "squeeze" services like Netflix because the cable monopolies aren't competitive with their own offerings.

The only thing too big is the pants those cable ISPs wear. Drop the cable monopolies and the network will expand and flourish...bandwidth and speed will increase...and prices will drop as the newbies court your business!
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There's only one cable company to choose from in my area thanks to franchise exclusivity agreements made with the local government. And because of this sweetheart deal, there's no incentive for Comcast to upgrade their network to fiber optics. Why should they? They have a steady stream of income, guaranteed.
@blind obedience
fyi this happens all over the US, I have not lived in the same address for more than 2 years over the last 16 or so, sometimes moving as often as 6 times a year (maybe once or twice, normally 2-3 times), and I have only lived in 1 place where cable tv was offered by more than one company, not including satellite, and not including those silly companies that think they can buy service from the cable company and then sell it to you at a higher price, because they "offer better customer service" or occasionally a slightly lower price, because they get a discount for buying the service in bulk from the cable company...
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@aiellenon
That's what you get where there's no competition. They could get away with it back in the 80's and 90's before broadband when they were smaller companies and customer service was better and they didn't nickle & dime you to death. Now people are starting to complain about it and call them on their lies.
@J Hartsock
reminded me of the good old (evil) AT&T, when you could not connect your own fax machine to your telephone line. thanks to anti-monopoly law, they got busted and the internet flourish. hope they will go after these new monopolist to free up the super-highway.
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Is netflix bigger then all provider combined?
Mister Spock Updated - 26th Apr 2011
Yes they have more subscribers then Comcast, yet Netflix is provider independent, meaning that they can work on FiOS, Warner, Cox, ect.

What is Netflix's subscriber rate compared to all delivery avenues combind? 2%? 10%.

That would be an interseting comparison, as a metric to gauge overall user interest in the Netflix service (which I am a customer of).
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Good question
John Zern 27th Apr 2011
@Mister Spock
I wonder what percentage of overall cable/satalite, ect users are netflix subscribers?
Now that NetFlix is relying more and more on internet bandwidth, IMO, they are doomed. It's inevitable that eventually there will be low bandwidth caps that will hurt NetFlix. And consider that they are using 20% for low quality video. I personally don't get these customers watching this low quality stuff. 1080P TVs but they just want to watch something they've most likely already seen before in lower quality. No wonder this country is getting so fat.

I have to say I'm up in arms over whether or not ISPs should be allowed to throttle. It IS their infrastructure after all. Nobody is stopping the wireless providers from doing stuff like this with their wireless networks. I personally can't believe it hasn't come to home internet access already. I think it eventually will.

No issues for ATTWireless offering unlimited calls to other ATT phones. So why would ComCast have a problem offering unlimited access to ComCast movies? The goverment doesn't force ATTWireless to offer unlimited calls to/from outside phones for free.

Time will tell....
@happyfirst low quality video?? compared to what - bluray?
if so, I can understand your point of view, but honestly dvd quality videos that I get through netflix is very very adequate considering I am only paying 8 bucks for.
As far as saying it is for stuff you already seen... says who? Don't buy the service then if you happened to already seen the thousands and thousands of movies offered for streaming. I know I haven't seen them all so it is worth it to me.
Low quality video doesn't begin to cover it. Not only do they use about the worst compression I've seen (the Starz section is especially bad) but I've yet to see one of their movie streams make it more than 20 minutes in without developing a terrible case of hanging/buffering.

Frankly, I can't understand all the Netflix hoopla. They'e got to have the crappiest overall streaming quality of anything on the Internet. And they want to introduce multi-family streaming? Give me a break!

If you want to see streaming done right (and looks spectacular even on a 1080P set) check out the 2nd Gen Apple TV/itunes. This is apparently a secret the masses have yet to discover, and it's what Netflix should really be worried about. Yes, you're locked into Apple's box/infrastructure, but don't knock it 'til you've tried it.
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@BetaMark

I won't knock the Apple's box/infrastructure because I have no intentions of buying an Apple TV.

The beauty of the Netflix approach is the low barrier to entry. Chances are it works on a device that you already own and they are always doing promotions for 1 month of free service.

I typically watch on PC devices so I rarely see the "hanging/buffering" issue described. When I do it usually opens once.

Of course, I am completely content watching 'old' stuff because there is a lot I haven't seen. I realize that I am not in the majority by any stretch.

I wish that web titans like Google, Facebook, Netflix, Amazon, etc would team up to figure out how to break the stranglehold the ISPs/Carriers have on the pipes.
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@BetaMark Low quality video doesn't begin to cover it. Not only do they use about the worst compression I've seen (the Starz section is especially bad) but I've yet to see one of their movie streams make it more than 20 minutes in without developing a terrible case of hanging/buffering.

And yet somehow I manage to watch a few hours of streaming Netflix over the Wii with no hanging/buffering issues. Then again I have FiOS... perhaps the hanging/buffering issues are caused by the ISP and not Netflix?
"Someone is going to need to make up the revenue cable companies are starting to lose to Internet video and that someone will be you and me. "
Maybe someone should consider moving to a service that does not use network technology that's only found on cable networks and history books aka bus networks. I may have just missed it but I don't see VZ talking about the same restrictions and additional fees that Comcast has been pushing for years starting well before Netflix was an online service. Or to be blunt Comcast is a crooked company anyway this is just an excuse.
sitting around watching movie's, instead of living life?

I agree that Comcast is nothing but a bunch of ****** and is why I switched years ago to Direct and never looked back. I also get 10/12 movie's sent to me via MAIL from Netflix. I guess I'm lucky because I get one day turn around time where I live.
I would have netflix but since my only broadband option is mobile broadband that has caps Netflix has not use to me.
I just started using Netflix and was surprised at how little buffering there was. I told a friend who was interested in the service it took about 30s to load a movie and when I went to demonstrate this I was wrong it took 15s to buffer the movie started and played continuously. Even with the Sony PSN network down I have no issues with Netflix.
Here's the thing: I used netflix/hului exclusively for a year. I got sick of not being able to see all the shows I wanted so I got cable. Do I think cable will die out? No I do not. It is an entirely different story for onDemand though. And if I pay a little more because the cable companies want the same revenue they get now, that's fine, so long as I get the bandwidth promised me by the company, otherwise they get dropped like a noob after Ryu's shinruyken.
I don't see what the issue is here. Netflix is paying for the bandwidth to broadcast movies and people are paying for bandwidth to watch the movies. If the infrastructure needs to be upgraded to accomidate the amount of bandwidth being used, then the ISP should be making enough money to upgrade it. If not then they have two choices, upgrade it on their own dime or charge Netflix more for the bandwidth they are using on the streaming side. The cost should not go to the user end because we aren't using any more bandwidth than we already pay for. In other words Netflix is streaming more and more movies but we only watch one at a time(most of us at least happy So who does Netflix pay for bandwidth anyway???
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Yes, that's how it SHOULD be..
Zorched Updated - 28th Apr 2011
@IndredKold
...but if there's one dominating factor is that the big companies are greedy. Why should they spend the enormous amounts of money on infrastructure upgrades when they can cap and stick it to the customers who have no other (real) choices to go to? The people making the decisions value their pay/bonuses above all else and if that means you get shafted because spending money on upgrades lowers their bottom line, why should they care? It's not like you have anyplace to go...
Yes, it's cynical, but it's how it is. Creating a hard (landline) network is extremely expensive and cost prohibitive for small companies, so start-up competition is locked out before it even starts.
Our only hope is big companies like Google or Amazon, or maybe even Netflix themselves getting into the network business to compete and offer alternatives.
@Zorched
Even for big companies, the costs of adding capacity is a lot.

There's another way to look at it - should the person who uses little internet bandwidth be made to pay for the one who uses a lot?

That's the outcome we have now with unlimited use pricing. If Comcast has to add capacity for the Netflix video users and can't charge that user or netflix, then they need to spread that cost to everyone else.

Why should you have to pay for my Netflix (or bittorrent) use when it requires network upgrades to keep an acceptable level of service for everyone?
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Big_Belly_Bob Updated - 28th Apr 2011
@Big_Belly_Bob

You can't even use instant streaming from netflix? Man that's just stupid, the internet is perfrct for removing country boundries like this. well you could try a work around by opening an American bank account and proxy through an American proxy server to use Netflix. But that's going really far for a movie rental service.
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use radio waves
kidtree 27th Apr 2011
I've always thought movies and TV were too much information to cram through skinny wires to millions of consumers. How about a new system of video being sent over the air from transmitters in large metropolitan centers? They could affiliate into national networks to carry the more expensive fare and create local programming simultaneously. The number of consumers would have no effect on the signal strength, unless you get to the point where all your neighbors' antennas form a Faraday shield around your receiver. Receivers could be tuned to different frequency "channels" to display what the viewer wished to watch. Each station could publish a schedule of what it planned to broadcast in the near future, and news outlets might combine that information from multiple broadcasters into schedules that would apply to all channels in the region.
Pure genius. It might work.
@kidtree

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Netflix may be big, but I stick to Hulu. Netflix doesn't work on Linux, and so they will never see a sent from me. DVDs are too cumbersome now a days. So I will stick to hulu, pbs, cbs, nbc, and cbs, etc for my video streaming.
@gigarath3

I use netflix but I agree with you, total crap that it doesn't work on Linux. Really you would have to use wine and run a windows based browser to watch it which is dumb. Luckily I have uit on my 360 and Wii so I don't have to use it through my Linux Box.
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I can't believe
No_Ax_to_Grind 27th Apr 2011
I find it hard to accept there are that many couch potatoes willing to pay to watch old movies and tired re-runs. Must be America...
@No_Ax_to_Grind

I doubt it is just America. There are plenty of people who do weird stuff like go outside happy but seriouesly, it's not about being a couch potato, its about getting to watch what you want when you want to and the nestalgia of seeing some of the old stuff you watched as a kid or missed when growing up. I have the entire X-files series on Netflix because I missed the whole thing growing up. Netflix is perfect for stuff like that.
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It's their own short-sightedness
theflash21 29th Apr 2011
For far too long, cable companies have offered extremely poor channel offerings and those channels offering poor programming at such a high price, that when presented with a watch-what-you-want-when-you-want-it option, people are all about dumping their expensive-130-channels-but-you-can-never-find-anything-to-watch cable/satellite service. Networks and cable companies need to get with it and revamp their "tv" offerings ... or get onboard the train to the future - join and embrace Netflix-like service.
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