The new ZDNet comment system: A blow to trolls

Summary: After months in the making, ZDNet unveils its new story comment system.

Welcome to ZDNet's new comment system.

Welcome to ZDNet's new comment system.

To post or not to post my summary of the new ZDNet rules, that is the question. Whether tis nobler to endure the slings & arrows of outraged trolls Or to take arms against a sea of spammers, And by opposing end them?

Sorry Shakespeare, I couldn't resist. The ZDNet comment system has been troubled at times. All too often it's been over-run by trolls, sometimes visited by spammers, and often troublesome to navigate, Now, ZDNet has indeed taken arms against the trolls and spammers with its comment system update.

The major changes are:

    Navigation: Users can now use navigate up or down through each comment (and there are shortcut keyboard keys we can use)

    Voting: User's can now vote on a comment

    Collapsed View: we haven't had this since when relaunched,  we have brought it back, so that users can see a tree or collapsed view of all comments, which helps to quickly scan comments

    New messaging order and status settings: These are: Most recent comment; Editor's pick, manually selected by editor; and Top Rated - Highest number of positive votes from users.

    New icons (staff, groups): Adding in the ability for each icon grouping to have their own icons: ZDNet Staff, ZDNet Moderator, and ZDNet Writer

    Pagination for Talkback: With this upgrade, we brought back pagination (and removed the "view more" button that user's were unhappy with)

    Registration Posting changes: A user will now have to register or log-in before they begin typing a comment, which will avoid lost posts that happened when users would type up a post, register, confirm, and then go back to the blog post (and comment was lost).

    Alerts: Adding the ability for users to get alerted when updates are made to the comment thread.

The goal is to improve the quality of our online forums, help clear out message trash, and make our story comments more interesting and useful to you.

This has just been introduced, so will be some teething problems along the way. But it is indeed our most fervent hope to make ZDNet comments useful. Thanks for your help in advance. You'll be a big part of making this work.

Topic: Security

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  • Anything to control the troll bloggers ?

    NT
    1773
    • haha

      That's the real problem with the site!
      slickjim
    • Agree!

      I agree, they need to control the bloggers
      Loverock Davidson-
    • "I dont know of a bigger troll than SJVN who posts on ZDNet"

      BUWAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH I THINK I JUST PIST MYSELF YOO ARE THE CLEVVEREST GUY I EVER RED
      thebaldguy
  • Yay!

    Looks great.
    andrew.nusca
  • AWESOME!

    You know what's going to be awesome?

    Watching the Microsoft fanboys down-mod comments from the Android and MacOS/iOS fanboys, watching the MacOS/iOS fandboys fanboys down-mod comments from the Microsoft and Android fanboys, watching the Android fanboys down-mod comments from the MacOS/iOS and Microsoft fanboys, and every message on ZDNet ends up at -13.
    dsf3g
    • It'll be legend...wait for it...

      Dairy!

      LOL
      spdragoo@...
      • Yep

        This system would work if trolls were neck beards sitting in their mom and dads basement. But, the real trolls are the companies that try and steer or moderate these blogs on their own behalf. I had a little word press blog and still got a trolling message from someone to an MS flame that later turned out to work for them.
        Socratesfoot
  • How will it control trolls?

    I fail to see how the new system will do so.
    John L. Ries
    • Gives us more options

      Previously, the only option you had was "flag or no flag". However, while flagging was supposed to be for really serious stuff -- like someone posting a spam reply, or resorting to unforgivable conduct like use of racial slurs -- a lot of times people would just flag someone's comment because they didn't agree with it.

      This way will work more like their affiliate TechRepublic's site does, where your account can be set up to hide comments with really low ratings (although still having the option to manually view them if you want to).
      spdragoo@...
      • As a matter of fact

        You will be getting the option to hide the low-rated messages RSN.
        sjvn@...
      • Showing plus / minus counts seperately would help

        Rather than the balance. Gives more information to the reader.

        I welcome the new system. IMO an improvement.
        Richard Flude
  • Finally

    Finally some long overdue changes to the comment system. It looks good. Now lets see how it works out.

    Edit: I am vary happy that those generic comment titles are gone.
    CPPCrispy
  • What the site needs...

    Is the ability to rate down the articles!
    slickjim
    • I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this...

      But flame bait articles are still good for the blogger we just don't have to see every response now. Some bloggers ^^^^ would never make the main page if they did that though.
      LiquidLearner
    • RE: rate down the articles!

      It used to have that with a thumbs up and down at the top of the article. For some reason it disappeared. Maybe it was because some of the bloggers that wrote fueled with hate and lies (not mentioning any names) had their blogs/articles negatively rated too much and thought it was unfair.
      bobiroc
      • hmm

        I could certainly see that happening!
        slickjim
  • Nice work ZDnet Developers, Hat Tip!

    nt
    Dietrich T. Schmitz *Your
    • Err...

      Really?! I'm not at all convinced. I just think anyone with a point of view that someone disagrees with will get down voted to oblivion.

      You'd not let users have super-user access to 'nice' would you? (hope you like the Linux/Unix reference)
      jeremychappell
      • Perhaps there needs to be a daily limit on downvotes

        Perhaps there needs to be a daily limit on downvotes - perhaps only 3 downvotes per day? And maybe upvotes too - 8 per day?

        This would give people pause for thought before slamming a post and might encourage a more sensible dialog?
        bitcrazed