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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

The Rise of Web Censorship

By | November 28, 2010, 1:33pm PST

Summary: Last week saw the closing down of numerous Web sites by the U.S. Government and that may have only been the tip of the ice-berg.

Back in 1964, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart of famously wrote on what was, and wasn’t “hard-core pornography” that, “I know it when I see it.” Today, free speech on the Web is impeded by far more restrictions than just what is, or isn’t, pornographic. On the Web in 2010, even the appearance of enabling file-sharing of copyright materials seems to be enough for the Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to shut down Web-sites without notice .

ICE has shut down dozens of file-sharing and what are alleged to be counterfeit good sites such as Torrent-Finder.com, 2009jerseys.com, and Dvdcollects.com. Their domain names have been taken over by ICE leaving behind only a single page stating that “This domain name has been seized by ICE–Homeland Security Investigations, pursuant to a seizure warrant issued by a United States District Court.”

In a statement to the New York Times, Cori W. Bassett, a spokesperson for ICE said that the “ICE office of Homeland Security Investigations [had] executed court-ordered seizure warrants against a number of domain names.”

Fine and dandy. I have no use for sites that traffic in counterfeit goods such as fake autographed sports jerseys or designer purses. I do, on the other hand, worry when a site like Torrent-Finder is shut down.

You see, Torrent-Finder, which is back up under a new domain name, Torrent-Finder.info doesn’t host Torrent file or even BitTorrent file trackers. It’s just a search engine dedicated to file torrents such as movies, TV shows, or software programs. You can find the same file torrents with Google if you know what you’re doing. Torrent-Finder, and sites like it, just makes specific kinds of file searches easier.

I think it’s fine for the government to try to block the sales of fake LeBron James Miami Heat jerseys and the like. It’s when we start moving into the murkier land of intellectual property and the “right” to block searches, that I start getting worried.

I have reasons. On November 26th, a Swedish court upheld the copyright convictions of three of the four founders of The Pirate Bay, the world’s most famous file-sharing Web site.

Days earlier, thanks to the lobbying of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) and the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), a U.S. Senate committee approved, by a unanimous vote, the COICA (Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act) bill. COICA would make not only the people hosting file sharing search sites but ISPs and the Internet bodies responsible for the Domain Name System (DNS) responsible for possible copyright violations.

As a group of law professors wrote for the public interest group Public Knowledge wrote, “The Act, if enacted into law, would fundamentally alter U.S. policy towards Internet speech (PDF Link), and would set a dangerous precedent with potentially serious consequences for free expression and global Internet freedom. ” Furthermore, the law would let sites be shut down without a chance to protect themselves. “In place of a final determination after an adversary proceeding that the website in question contain infringing material, the Act permits the issuance of speech- suppressing injunctions without any meaningful opportunity for any party to contest the Attorney General’s allegations of unlawful content.”

It’s not just the U.S. In the U.K., the Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) is seeking the right to order Nominet, the Internet registry for the .uk block of domain addresses, to shut down United Kingdom registered domain names upon police demand. Just as with COICA, the SOCA could get the right to shut down Web sites first and then only afterwards have a court decide if the decision was justified.

I have no problem with law-enforcement agencies having the power to stop crimes. What I do have a problem with is them being given carte blanche to decide on their own, whenever they want, anywhere in the world, when a Web site should be shut down. That is a power that should never belong to the police alone of any country.

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system; 300bps was a fast Internet connection; WordStar was the state of the art word processor; and we liked it.

His work has been published in everything from highly technical publications (IEEE Computer, ACM NetWorker, Byte) to business publications (eWEEK, InformationWeek, ZDNet) to popular technology (Computer Shopper, PC Magazine, PC World) to the mainstream press (Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, BusinessWeek).

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tangentjohn@... 13th Dec 2010
Once upon a time there was a world threatened by nuclear war. Children (me included, I'm 64) were taught that hiding under their desks would save them from "The BOMB". We belived it. Once upon a time there was a world threatened by jhadists with dynamite. We tell them that social networking, and ear buds will protect them from worrying about it. They believe us. Just so long as the government doesn't take down facebook and iTunes, all else will be acceptable.
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Violet Blue 28th Nov 2010
Great article. What few people know is that Justice Stewart later recanted his blanket "I know it when I see it" definition-marker for adult material in Miller v. California, as he realized it was untenable. It is this fact which concurs with your closing statement.
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d.marcu 28th Nov 2010
if you download a movie or an album you are considered worse than the illiterate a**hole that mugs you on the street on your way from work. Thank you "Justice" department or whatever you pretend to be
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And what if they seized Wikileaks?
guihombre 28th Nov 2010
Spying on the UN, pulling the credit card and bank transactions of the Bulgarian leader to find corruption they can use against him in negotiations. Spies in the German government, EU officials handing EU bank data to the USA... gee what did the USA have on those EU officials that would make them do that????

Saudi Arabia demanding US attack Iran, and Saudi Arabia throwing hundreds of billions in lobby money at the US elections. I wonder what all those newly election tea party borg will say.

Perhaps they'll accuse Wikileaks of 'counterfeiting' the data and seize their domain too.

It seems we have a long way to go before a normal world is resumed.
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There was never a "normal" world.
Bruizer 28th Nov 2010
@guihombre

Any concept of that was nothing but an illusion. Since before George Washington, governments have been keeping secretes and making deals and it has not changed.

As for file sharing/ file share search being "free speech"? Rubbish. All I have been reading are a lot of people trying to justify their behavior as being "innocent", "not hurting anyone", "the RIAA is evil anyway", "serves the MPAA right; people pirating their stuff" and dozens of other self-justifications in an attempt to placate their own guilt.

Basically, allot of people trying to defend how wonderful copyright infringement is.

If you like a movie or song, buy it or rent it. If you think it is too expensive, vote with your wallet and mind and ignore it.

Pick your battles and this is not one of them.
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superbus 28th Nov 2010
@Bruizer the issue isn't piracy in this particular case. Yes, piracy is a bane. But this is not the way to address it. These sites that have been seized were seized with no notice, no warrant, nothing, all by a group - Homeland Security - that is not capable, qualified, or even competent at internet policy enforcement. Even more, Homeland Security was formed to defend against what could be defined as "terror" attacks (I call them that because its real purpose could be summed up as "don't let 9/11 happen again). The expansion of the group in nine years has been startling, and it is becoming truly Orwellian, especially in a country full of politicians and people that continually parrot how "free" we are and how much "liberty" we enjoy.

This is a battle to pick because it's part of a much larger problem that all comes around to the same end-game: the government is slowly but surely establishing control over our lives, and is doing so by specifically throwing the fourth amendment of our Constitution out the window, not to mention the first.
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Heavy Hand of Government
cornpie 29th Nov 2010
@Bruizer First, let me say that I do believe companies and individuals do have the right to protect their intellectual property. I believe that stealing music or software over the internet is no different than sticking a CD down your pants and walking out of a music store. Both are stealing and equally bad.

The key to the statement above is where I said "equally". RIAA and MPAA have convinced legislators that stealing something over the internet is somehow much worse than putting the CD down your pants - as evidenced by the punishment being handed out in these cases. We treat what amounts to shoplifting as if it were armed robbery. I'm not advocating shoplifting or saying it is OK. I'm just saying let the punishment fit the crime.

In the case of shutting sown web sites, if this is allowed to happen, if I run a legitimate web site, I could be shutdown without warning. I would be forced to go to court to prove my innocence, rather than my accuser having to prove my guilt. In the case of a small business that could never afford to fight RIAA, that is the equivalent of dropping a nuclear weapon on their business. They can be utterly destroyed with no recourse and that is un-American.
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hawks5999 29th Nov 2010
@Bruizer

If you don't stand up to protect the speech of people that you don't necessarily agree with, no one will stand up to protect your speech. This isn't about defending pirates, it's about limiting the ability of the government to deem you a terrorist capriciously and then make you a target. Yesterday it's torrent-search, today it's Mark Ruffalo, tomorrow it's you.
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Bob63 Updated - 29th Nov 2010
@Bruizer
Not all torrented fles are copyrighted. I have gotten hobbycraft plans and open-ssource operating systems via torrent. Justice needs to go after the producers.
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windozefreak 29th Nov 2010
@guihombre
This is a normal world. This the way the world has been run since the beginning of time. Where have you been living all of this time??
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Websites are never gone, are they?
rgcustomer@... 28th Nov 2010
I'm not an internet technical expert, but reading this it seems like the websites remain accessible, but only the DNS lookup was interfered with. So instead of the site name pointing to the owner's numerical IP address, it points to a government numerical IP address.

I'm fairly sure that if I modify my PC's hosts file, or specify a DNS server configured for this purpose, I could reach any website -- by name -- that a government has interfered with.

Of course, you can always access them by number, but that's clumsy.

Given that a domain name is simply an association of a name with a number assigned to the site, it seems like protected speech to me. Further, the only effect of seizing the name is to fragment the internet into devices which can look up the site normally, and those which must work around the interference.

(Of course, in a day when campaign cash is considered "speech" I suppose I wouldn't be surprised to learn that actual speech is something else)
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Bill4 29th Nov 2010
@rgcustomer@... I'm pretty sure I read that DHS went directly to ICANN rather than the registrar so they could yank the IP addresses. Anyone know for sure about this?
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sjvn@... 29th Nov 2010
@Bill4 The DHS isn't talking. It's believed that went directly to ICANN, but I haven't seen hard proof of it yet. COICA, if passed, would let the Feds tell non-US registries to pull sites' DNS listing, and, if they didn't, then forbid US ISPs from connecting to any sites ran by that registry. So, don't play ball, and, in theory, all U.S. ISPs might be forbidden to connect with all .uk domains. What a law!

Steven
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windozefreak 29th Nov 2010
@rgcustomer@...
I love your last sentence. lol!

@superbus:
We have never been fully free, as in, do whatever we want. We have always had laws and rules we had to abide by. As time change, so do laws and rules. Always have and always will.
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cybursoft 29th Nov 2010
@Networking
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
congrats on a magnificent blog chap!
We must sound the Trumpet Reveille Charge.ogg
Is home land security ?Americans version of The SS ?And why are they interested in internet an programmers ? Considering that when IT first started the governments thoughts toward "snot nosed geeks" and computers . was that it was crap ! ,until it made the missiles fly In a straight line.

Personally i don't give two squats about file sharing ,bittorrent sites make me sick. But i can say that as a hypocrite since i have terabytes of shared data happy./mnt/sda1/share/...I think the cartoon South Park described it best , in a subliminal message from the south park episode ban family guy. (the real name Cartoon Wars Part I).The idealist message from the writer's was if , we let them take down one site then eventually homeland security will crown it self Internet Police.

Our internet business is vulnerable
enough with out the governments sticking their 2 cents in. We have worked hard to get to this point , home land security choose the Internet because it is a easy target, masses of virtual users grow weary easily , Programmers fighting battles that they don't believe in

A good old fashion boycott ! is required.

P.S I'm sure i will take flames over these comments , I'll get the fire extinguisher happy
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windozefreak 29th Nov 2010
@cybursoft
You need more than a fire extinguisher, but not because someone might flame you. I believe it was the government that gave the internet to the geeks. However, Homeland Security Department is about providing security to the homeland, United States of America. They fall under the national security umberella. Since scums can impact national security through the internet, Home Land Security needs to know what's going on over the internet. If some site and/or sites are doing somthing they should not, they should shut them down.
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bigsibling 1st Dec 2010
@windozefreak
You're missing the point dude! It isn't about DHS shutting down sites doing things wrong. It's about DHS shutting down sites it THINKS are doing bad things. No proof, just the suspicion. Would be like your neighbor calling ATF and saying he saw you carrying in boxes of explosives to your basement. Then they break in and seize your house without due process. THAT is what is the problem with all of this. Lack of due process before they swoop in and confiscate things.
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ronangel 29th Nov 2010
All that would happen is that they would mirror their servers to a place outside of usa jurisdiction (They would be foolish if this & multiple backups had not already been done)
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Legislation for fun and profit
Dr_Zinj 29th Nov 2010
"RIAA and MPAA have convinced legislators that stealing something over the internet is somehow much worse than putting the CD down your pants."

They did that because they get immense financial rewards for doing so. Most legislation enacted by Congress and signed into law by the President is written for the express benefit of a small group of people - those who propose the legislation. It is NOT written and enacted for the benefit of the majority or the protection of the minority. Which is why copyright and patent law has consisentely gotten worse over the years.
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indiefilmmaker2010 29th Nov 2010
@Dr_Zinj I'm an indie filmmaker whose film has been widely pirated online. ALL our income comes from downstream revenue. You are mistaken to think that the MPAA is the only victim. Go online and educate yourself about what is really out their and HOW MUCH is actually stolen before you make these claims.

Our film is available via various legit sources (including various low-cost VOD options) but it's impossible to compete with FREE.

These web pirates aren't in it for altruism either. These sites exist to make money off the hard work of others. They steal content, post it, place advertising on the sites, and earn money. Guess who doesn't get a dime--those who created the content.

Lots of livelihoods are being damaged by unabated online piracy. The internet is where commerce is happening, both good and bad. It's time the law catch up with that reality.
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What I do have a problem with is handing over the internet to a government agency that can do AS THEY SEE FIT without prior court authorization.

This is no different than a squad of Police showing up at your door unannounced, with no warrant, storming your house and tearing it up on the sole word of the police that you're doing something bad. This is EXACTLY why warrants were invented in the first place: Abuse of power. By the way, the Patriot Act gives Federal Agents the authority to do just that (storm your house with a handwritten warrant written by the agents themselves).

Since the Sheeple of the U.S. rolled over and took it in the rear for a false sense of security, I suspect they'll hand over a few more rights without much debate.

I just wonder how bad it will get before the lazy and complacent masses finally realize they're no longer "free" in the "Land of the Free".
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shanedr 29th Nov 2010
The true problem is the government (all agencies) that shut down websites without taking them to court first are violating the US Constitution. Violating the constitution is the first step on the road to a police state. The fact that most citizens and almost all media are not outraged over this violation of our rights shows just how much danger we are in.

All violations of law must first result in a warrant, then an arrest, then prosecution in a court of law and finally a judgment. Bypass any of those and we are in really deep trouble.
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MLHACK 29th Nov 2010
@shanedr

This is slowing happening NSA FBI HSA are trying to control what you as a citizen can see on the web. It just seems no one really cares about their rights anymore. Younger americans have turned into a bunch of &ussies and do not stand up for anything they just bend over and take it like a prison cell block *itch
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vikingnyc@... 29th Nov 2010
Torrent-finder.com was back up as Torrent-finder.info within 24 hours. The site's owners are based in Egypt. DHS, last time I checked, had no jurisdiction over Egyptian citizens. You can't stop the signal.
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Don't bet on it
fairportfan 29th Nov 2010
@vikingnyc@... All they have to do is forbid US ISPs from connecting to it...
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MLHACK 29th Nov 2010
@vikingnyc@...

Oh but Bush tried as is obama and so will the future dictator (i mean president) ISP black boxes anyone!! Don't be too surprised when the firewall keywords blocks Torrent or whatever. American citizens are letting their rights and freedoms go down the drain. The Gov is slowing trying to control what US citizens see on the web like they due in China
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Relorian@... 29th Nov 2010
I can see myself moving to Canada and applying for citizenship under "Political asylum" when the US slides even further towards a 1984ish state.

Sad that freedom dies with a whimper.
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The Modern Internet is Dying
kate9954 29th Nov 2010
If you are still interested in the free and uncensored flow of information, you should be looking at a project called "Freenet." It's the Internet of 20 years ago, and because it does not use servers at all, it cannot be censored.

If you are interested, learn more at :

http://freenetproject.org
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vaughanm 29th Nov 2010
So long as they only take sites hosted in america down its ok, as soon as they try to take down sites hosted elsewhere its a problem, currently the RIAA and others seem to think that american laws are global when they are not, if you have a look on piratebay theres copys of letters/emails from american RIAA and american companies threatining FBI action and the like whis a load of dung as they are not in america and the FBI has no power to intervene. So far its been a war of threats that the RIAA is losing so they have gotten the homeland security to join in.
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bigsibling 1st Dec 2010
@vaughanm
"So long as they only take sites hosted in america down its ok"

No, it isn't ok. The whole idea behind due process and the 4th amendment is to protect against this heavy handed jack-booted kind of government thuggery.
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Birth of TOTAL COMMUNISTIC SPEACH CONTROL
gkiefferjfk2@... 29th Nov 2010
When any police force either by thenmselves or jointly can TURN OFF INTERNET [and next public] SPEACH FOR VIOLATIONS it is time that i will support anyone / group/ entity to take back America FOR THE PEOPLE / BY THE PEOPLE/ GOVERNED BY THE PEOPLE and not DICTATORSHIP GOVERNMENTS and thus in America i feel it is becomming more & more like COMMUNIST NORTH KOREA

PS - I think i heard when OBAMA took office that he was RUNNING A MORE OPEN ADMINISTRATION IN FREEDOM OF INFORMATION....
Seems maybe he might have LIED
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This blather is all about maintain obscene profits by charging almost as much for a "virtual" CD as a machine made one.
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warpuck@... 29th Nov 2010
Homeland Security--- RIAA---MPOA or what ever, what part of MY home turf are they protecting with this one? Are they protecting me against the pig in a poke that's called a software package? I remember the IE 4 free download, had to call M$ & provide a credit card number to get the instructions from the techy @ $35 per 1/2 hour to get rid of that dud. The problem is a lot of this Crap involves duds all the way around. The only thing you can do is mail the duds-- the movie (dvd), the software back or the music (cd) back. If it is sent to a CA address at least they have to pay for special disposal. The shareware dealer is confident his software is good enough to keep & pay for. Yes I have noticed that the real information part of the highway is getting harder to find & that adds and other crap has gotten much too easy to find. You pay to connect to it and like cable it started out commercial free. Now its loaded with adds "to keep the cost down". Another WTF is computers preloaded stuff like Norton, which is a bad as a virus if you wanted to get rid of it. Most of the crap is harder to get rid of than the dog poop & smell stuck to your shoe. TSA & all the other 3 letter agencys dont seem be of much help with viruses. I find it odd that they cant find the orginators of malware or Bin Laden. The only thing missing here is the foul odor usually accompanies S--T.
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garytech57 29th Nov 2010
Sometimes, the use of legislative oversight by government entities can have in mind the best interests of the public at large.

Take the Torrent website for example. They host an ad on their site that opens a page that doesn't allow you to leave that page before clicking three pop-up dialog boxes, one after the other. This brought back bad memories for me of having to re-format hard drives, before the advent of present-day pop-up blockers.

If the administrators of the Torrent website are so money-hungry or nonchalant to allow this type of harrasing ad, they may also be inclined to overlook more serious (illegal) activity on their pages.
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philwhite42@... 29th Nov 2010
Why doesn't DHS concern itself with protecting our borders and leave this to normal law enforcement and the courts to handle? They aren't doing a great job at that. I don't really see why internet policing should fall under Homeland Security.
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Tinman57 29th Nov 2010
The "true problem" is that the U.S. is slowly but surely turning into a police state.....
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This isn't about censorship, it's about theft
indiefilmmaker2010 29th Nov 2010
If the Feds raided a warehouse chock full of counterfeit goods you wouldn't be crying "censorship." Guess what--the bad guys, just like their legit brethren, have moved online. They steal content (or products) and make money off them while the creators of said content get ZERO. Look around and see how many sites offer full streams of movies online for "free." They steal content, post it, then earn revenue from advertising (thanks Google) or via subscriptions for high-speed downloads. Meanwhile, those who made the content, receive nothing.

Also, this isn't about big corporations losing out, it's about American workers who work behind-the-scenes to create the content we so enjoy. You may criticize the execs at GM, but would you condone destroying the jobs of the workers on the assembly lines? Online movie piracy does just that.

Content creators of all types should be allowed to make a living off their work shouldn't they? Would you condone stealing a table a woodworker made---no. Yet somehow because it's offered online it falls under the umbrella of free speech? Authors, artists, musicians, filmmakers, and more are being ripped off every day. These aren't rich people, but they are people who deserve to have their livelihoods protected.
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Zorched 29th Nov 2010
@indiefilmmaker2010
Since you weren't reading between your last post and this one...
We (most of us) aren't contesting that Piracy be controlled. What we are contesting is HOW they control it.

To use another comparison: This is no different than the government officials running down the street ripping newspapers from people's hands because someone accused the newspaper of using a copyrighted emblem. NO Judicial involvement, NO courts, just the government saying what you should and should not see. What if the real reason that the government did that "cleansing" was that the paper contained opinions that the government disagreed with, and wasn't acting on the Will of The People? What if those opinions contained revelations of wrongdoing by the Government? Oh dear, now people have been oppressed (the opinion makers and those reading the paper since they no longer have access to the Truth) under the guise of Copyright infringement.

How big of a step is it from closing down infringing web sites to ones that the Governement "Just doesn't like"?

Very small step indeed.

If you think this can't possibly happen, then you're dead wrong.

If I was taking over the country, this is EXACTLY how I would do it: One little right at a time. The patient power hungry are the successful ones. Death by a thousand paper-cuts, so to speak.
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This is Gov't Gone Bad
jpr75_z 29th Nov 2010
As you point out early in your article, the MPAA and RIAA have lobbied heavily for the COICA bill and it is frightning this might become law. Both groups have large wallets and our sad little gov't officials are standing in line with hands held out. Willing to trade anything for a few pieces of silver.
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cybursoft 30th Nov 2010
Sorry @freak but i am not scared of Iraqi infants online or offline , Homeland Security people are Warmongers and way over the civilian line. This is a civilians issue of copyright material an there is no security risk in sharing song files i bought in 1960.
It's like talking about a farmer with your mouth full !. wink
So your going to sit there an tell me the computer people who spend hours, days, countless years ,missing gobs of social events, just to straighten out a file name "simply because they are the only ones who gave a crap. ".
Is going to give up turf too the infamous RIAA, with its great skill of packing it's nose full of benzoylmethylecgonine and not with superior record keeping skills. ,is somehow going to prove, who did or did not purchase a album in the decades of rock.
And The same Homeland Security that can not stop the tons of dope from coming in the country, decides it is going to jump into a old (napster) battle . an magically this will prove we are safer ? This is really kind of ignorant even for the government.
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bazimmerman 30th Nov 2010
George Bush administration suspended habeus corpus in several ways. Isn't it rich that his partisian supreme court goonies treat Corporations as individuals, consider corporate cash as free speech, yet censor web sites without due process.

And now voters want to go back to that failed party policymaking. Go figure. You get what you vote for.
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Shutting down sites without notice?
Cynical99 30th Nov 2010
OK, so the Dept of Homeland Security shut them down without notice. Read your own article, "This domain name has been seized by ICE?Homeland Security Investigations, pursuant to a seizure warrant issued by a United States District Court"

That means a Court Order was obtained in advance before seizing the site. It also means a copyright owner filed with the courts claiming that the site in question was violating their copyright, and the courts agreed.

Nice try Steven. Some clod stealing IP from someone else gets shut down, you quote the thief instead of the real victim. Standard Steven.
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Oh noes, they're trying to stop piracy
Michael Alan Goff 3rd Dec 2010
I mean... theft is good, right?

We should be feeling bad for all those sites that will get shut down. D:
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tangentjohn@... 13th Dec 2010
Once upon a time there was a world threatened by nuclear war. Children (me included, I'm 64) were taught that hiding under their desks would save them from "The BOMB". We belived it. Once upon a time there was a world threatened by jhadists with dynamite. We tell them that social networking, and ear buds will protect them from worrying about it. They believe us. Just so long as the government doesn't take down facebook and iTunes, all else will be acceptable.

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