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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

There will never be an IE 9 for XP

By | September 16, 2010, 3:28pm PDT

Summary: IE 9? On XP!? Forget about it. It will never happen. Get over it. Here’s why.

When it comes to Web browsers, I’m a Google Chrome fan. Before that I was a Firefox aficionado. I also thought though that Internet Explorer 8 was a real step forward. I’m also willing to believe that IE 9 will turn out pretty darn good too.

Based on my early play with it, I won’t go as far as Ed Bott does with his praise for IE 9, but I do think Windows 7 users will get a lot out of it. Mind you, I think they should also look at Chrome as well, and Firefox 4 as well. And, if you’re not running Windows 7–say you’re running XP, Vista 64-bit, Mac OS X, or any Linux–you’re not going to have any choice in the matter. IE 9 isn’t available on any of them. No, there won’t even be an IE 9 for Android.

In particular, it’s not now, never has been, and never will be available on XP. For some reason though I keep hearing from XP fans who are up in arms that Microsoft isn’t going to give them IE 9. Get over it already. Or, as Adrian Kingsley-Hughes put it so succinctly, “XP is dead people, time to get used to that.”

Yes, yes, we all know that most people are still running XP. Microsoft knows that too. Why do you think they’re using the IE 9 carrot to try to get people to upgrade to Windows 7?

I happen to like Windows 7, and yes I’m well known for preferring desktop Linux over any version of Windows, but this isn’t about what I want, or what you want, or that XP SP3 still works just fine. This is all about Microsoft what wants and Microsoft wants you to get off the stick and spend your money on Windows 7.

Do you really think that Microsoft released a brand-new, still shiny public beta of IE 9 just before the doors shut forever on the Windows XP shop? I think not.

Mind you, there’s a lot to like about how Windows 7 handles networking besides just being able to enjoy IE 9. HomeGroups, Easy Connect, Location-Aware Printing, and URL-based Quality of Service (QoS) are all great additions. If you’re using Windows 7 Enterprise Edition and Windows Server 2008 R2, you’ll get the even more enterprise helpful DirectAccess, which combines virtual private network (VPN) and IPv6 tunneling over IPv4 and BranchCache.

All these improvements have one thing in common: Unless you’re a network administrator, you’re not likely to notice them. A spiffy new Web browser, perhaps even in beta the Microsoft has ever delivered, that, now that, people will notice.

Still not enough reason to move to Windows 7? Well, may I re-recommend Chrome? Because, I’ll tell you right now, the only way Microsoft will deliver IE 9 on XP is over Ballmer’s dead stock options.

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system; 300bps was a fast Internet connection; WordStar was the state of the art word processor; and we liked it.

His work has been published in everything from highly technical publications (IEEE Computer, ACM NetWorker, Byte) to business publications (eWEEK, InformationWeek, ZDNet) to popular technology (Computer Shopper, PC Magazine, PC World) to the mainstream press (Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, BusinessWeek).

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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
johnny48 18th Oct
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IE9 on Vista
HalfAKilo 16th Sep 2010
IE9 is certainly available on Vista x86-32 and -64, in fact I'm using it right now.
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It never installed for em
Cylon Centurion 16th Sep 2010
@HalfAKilo

Works fine on 7, but it didn't install on Vista x86. I'll have to give it another shot.
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@HalfAKilo The last I checked--two minutes ago--IE 9 was failing big time on Vista 64 and I know I'm not the only one. Oh well, it's beta, these things happen.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Arabalar Updated - 19th Aug
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Cahin Updated - 12th Sep
@HalfAKilo I wonder if the conclusion is correct though. Does a re-tweet really measure influence? The old saying that people are sheep may apply. They may be passively following the person and the content of the Tweet is enough information for the consumer. Then there's the old "the media is the message" approach. A Tweet is designed to be short, concentrated information. This is what the consumer is looking for and to attempt to engage them outside the mode of the media will not work. Maybe the conclusion is to target the consumer appropriately within the bounds of the media being used? There was this piece of hardware I remember not so long ago that allowed a user to point it at the TV and during certain content (called a mouse of some sort I think), it would guide the user to extra content on the internet. That failed too. It sounded like it would have been a winner, but the media of TV is not interactive and the technology tried to engage the end user outside the bounds of the media. Interesting stuff! araba oyunlari friv
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XP fans: The world is moving on.
Cylon Centurion 16th Sep 2010
Just because you are in love with the OS doesn't mean it needs to be supported forever. The world needs to move on. Have fun running XP, but the rest of us are looking towards the future, not the past.
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Not supported forever
croberts 17th Sep 2010
Just supported as long as the OS is supported. And considering that Microsoft kept selling XP on netbooks (because Vista wouldn't run on a netbook worth a damn) until the first half of this year, I don't think it is reasonable for owners to get screwed over a mere 6 months after buying a netbook.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
illegaloperation 17th Sep 2010
@croberts
First, Windows XP is in the extended support which mean security fixes only. It has already past its main stream support.

Second, it's OEM choice to pre-loaded Windows XP on netbook. I have a netbook and it runs Windows Vista just fine.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
dogbreath1 19th Sep 2010
@NStalnecker Yup, the rest of us are moving on to Mac OS X. No need for XP or IE9.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
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@NStalnecker
Thanks for the suggestion. Think I'll choose Ubuntu since a lot of my software is open source, anyway. happy
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
linuxuser63@... 16th Sep 2010
No IE9 outside of Win 7 & Vista? Who cares. I used Firefox for a long time. Now I run a variant of Chrome. I keep Windoze around cause I have to, not cause I love it. No IE9 for Linux guys like me, no loss!
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Lerianis10 16th Sep 2010
@linuxuser63@...

There is plenty of loss for regular people, seeing as how Linux has no programs to match or exceed the capabilities of several Windows programs.
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run IE9 on XP
bojanwojan 16th Sep 2010
@Lerianis10

If users on linux or XP need to run IE9, they can use ThinServer Win7 to provide that

http://www.aikotech.com/thinserver.htm
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Jeremy-UK 16th Sep 2010
@Lerianis10 Now if you'd said "games", I'd give you a free pass. If you said simple (especially if you'd said familiar) I'd give you a free pass. But...

Exactly which Windows programs don't have their capabilities matched or exceeded by Linux programs? Gone on, name any five...
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@Jeremy-UK ,
Here are some example, at least in my case,
1. MS Office 2010 - Outlook and OneNote are excellent applications.
2. Revit / AutoCAD - Haven't found a Linux replacement as powerful
3. Adobe Creative Suite 5 - There is no Linux replacement, if you consider the integration between the applications included.
4. MS Visio 2010 - The best diagram application. The integration with Sharepoint is excellent and is very good for technical diagrams.
5. iTunes - Is not the best, but is the most reliable application for sync to an iPhone.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Loverock Davidson 16th Sep 2010
No reason for Microsoft to port IE9 to XP anyway. It would be a waste of resources considering XP's EOL coming up soon.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Jeremy-UK 17th Sep 2010
@Loverock Davidson It's worse than that actually - Windows 7 provides lots of features that IE9 is exploiting that just aren't available on XP. Significant changes would need to be made to XP before it would run. Then XP wouldn't be XP anymore, it would be some odd hybrid.

It isn't really a case of porting IE9 to XP, more of a case of porting XP to IE9.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Doctor Demento 16th Sep 2010
Okay, let's get this straight, it is not a conspiracy by Microsoft to try to force XP users to upgrade to Windows 7....IE 9 will not available for XP because it uses features that are NOT SUPPORTED by XP....it CANNOT be made to work with XP without significant modifications to the source code....and it is not worth the time or money to build an entirely different version for XP when XP has no future and is being phased out in a couple of years

XP is 9 years old....in computer tech years that's like driving a Model T....

Why should Microsoft be held back by a 9 year old OS that is obsolete, out of date and cannot support the latest features?

I don't really get this....Apple cuts off support for legacy products all the time, and usually quite quickly...

They have already cut off support for the first generation iPhone, and it is only 3 years old!
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But I want Xp! WAAAAAAAAA.....
Cylon Centurion Updated - 17th Sep 2010
@Doctor Demento

Agreed. These damn XP lovers have held the world back for too long. Time to get over it.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Doctor Demento 17th Sep 2010
@NStalnecker

I would just say that...if you want to run a legacy OS, fine, but if you make that decision you have to accept the fact that an old OS simply cannot support the most advanced and up to date programs
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You get it straight.

IE is really two parts: the rendering engine, and the shell enhancements/integration.

No one is saying Microsoft has to enable all features on every OS. But there isn't any reason why IE9 rendering capabilities cannot be made available on XP.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
illegaloperation 17th Sep 2010
@croberts
Do you expect Microsoft to port Windows Display Driver Model to XP and require all new drivers?
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stupid question? You decide
Joe_Raby 16th Sep 2010
SJVN: If CP/M was so cutting edge, why aren't you still using it?
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
boxieblue 16th Sep 2010
was this an article on IE9 or an advertisement for Chrome?
@boxieblue

Although I wouldn't expect SJVN to advertize either, personally.
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Old isn't necessarily bad; in fact, it means the software is time-tested.

The author appears to be a fan of big corporations like Microsoft and Google. Not only is he peddling Microsoft's latest bloated OS; he's a fan of Google Chrome, which spies on your Web browsing so that Big Brother Google can gather personal information about you.
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Doctor Demento 18th Sep 2010
@Anne Nonymous

Windows is 25 years old....but the newest version is not

BSD is 30 years old...but I doubt that anyone is using a version that is 30 years old, anyone using BSD is no doubt using a newer version
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RE: There will never be an IE 9 for XP
Nikola Kojo 17th Sep 2010
Never for XP ?!?!?!?! :(((
Good, I'll stick to Chrome anyways happy
Still , I can not comprehend, how after 15 years of IE, It takes ages to load, ages to load web pages.
"Forcing"/"Suggesting to people to change OS is like McDonald's denying to serve obese customers.
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7 is dumbed down
xp-client 17th Sep 2010
Windows 7 is crap. Vista successful marketed and even more dumbed down. Tons of features removed. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_7 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_Vista
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Welcome Mr. anti-MS Vaughan-Nichols
nomorebs 17th Sep 2010
As this web site was not full already of Microsoft haters (i'm not a MS lover), here it comes the least objective person on planet: Vaughan-Nichols
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Steven,
"When it comes to Web browsers, I?m a Google Chrome fan."

With that opening, we can turn you off. Just another member of the Google spyware botnet. I would rather sacrifice a little speed using Firefox, Opera, or Safari, than provide all my web activity to Google on a platter. It is irresponsible to recommend any Google app or service to the public, except perhaps search.
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Where are all the XP fan clubs?
mwidunn 18th Sep 2010
. . . Because I don't see them. XP is what we're stuck with. XP isn't great (What MSFT product is?), but it does what it does.

I wasn't going to buy a brand new computer with Vista just because MSFT told me to. Nor, am I going to buy a brand new computer with 7 just because MSFT tells me to.

Are the people at MSFT such a bunch of big, bullying children that they'll withhold IE9 to make me buy 7?

That's fine. A Mac computer is only a Best Buy away.
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Are you even serious?
PlayFair 18th Sep 2010
@mwidunn

When did Microsoft tell you to buy a new computer? Does a car maker tell you to get a new car every year that they release a new model? No, they try to improve over the previous iteration and then advertise the new features.

And do you realize that there are a great many changes between XP and Vista that make some things impractical.

And ending with the MAC as an example is the real kicker. No company obsoletes previous software and hardware faster than Apple. Try upgrading your G4 to Snow Leopard. Try upgrading to the latest version of Safari on Tiger.

I wish Nonzealot was here to say his trademark line...
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Re: About what Microsoft wants
bobiroc 27th Sep 2010
"...this isn?t about what I want, or what you want, or that XP SP3 still works just fine. This is all about Microsoft what wants and Microsoft wants you to get off the stick and spend your money on Windows 7."

Why is it all about Microsoft trying to get you to spend money. Sure Microsoft would like you to upgrade to Windows 7 or purchase a computer with it pre-installed but most of the reasoning behind IE9 has to do with two things. Aside from security updates there will be no new features for XP produced as it is end of life. No other OS or software maker does this with their old software so why it is continuously expected from Microsoft is beyond me. Reason 2 is many of the enhancements for performance and displaying content are not going to be beneficial in XP. The fact that IE8 performs much better in Windows 7 (and even Vista) compared on XP should tell you that. Basically it will offer no improvement for users of XP that use IE for the browser by upgrading to IE9. To make XP work with IE9 they way it should would require a lot of work on the back end of XP which Microsoft does not want to (nor should it have to) do.
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I use XP, Vista, Win7 and OS/2
mavr1c 2nd Mar 2011
Even though XP is dead it is still the best by far for all the applications and daily tasks I need to do. Many small apps don't work at all in Vista or Win7 that I have been using since Win95 days and depend on. No replacements no improved function but that is life. IE is by far the most forgiving and useful of the browsers I have tested. I see the wars go on about Linux and MacOS by those who probably have no serious applications. OS/2 beats all these but unfortunatly it died a sad death being so far ahead of its time.
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