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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Wires? We don’t need no stinking Wires! Gigabit Wi-Fi

By | February 25, 2011, 10:10am PST

Summary: Sure, Intel’s Thunderbolt with 10Gbps speeds and protocols that support both data transfer and displays sounds great, but why worry with wires connections at all with Gigabit Wi-Fi on its way?

I think Intel’s Thunderbolt technology with its 10Gbps (Gigabit per second) speeds and support for both for data transfer and displays sounds wonderful. And, yes, I like the idea of cutting down the number of wires coming out of my entertainment center and computers with Thunderbolt. But, really wouldn’t you rather have no wires at all? That’s what a quartet of Wi-Fi technologies are promising.

None of these technologies are quite ready for prime-time, but then, neither is Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt uses the DisplayPort and PCI-Express data protocols over two data transmission channels, and, in theory, can hit up to 10Gbps over copper. That’s twice as fast as USB 3.0. Eventually, optical connections are supposed to bring that up to 100Gbps in burst mode. Even the fastest commercial SATA drives can only deliver 6Gbps.

So, while Thunderbolt and USB 3.0 are all fine in their place, shouldn’t we really be looking to technologies like 802.11ac, 802.11ad, Wireless Gigabit aka WiGig, and Wi-Fi Direct? No, they’re not as fast, but they can everything that Thunderbolt or USB 3.0 can do without any wires.

Wi-Fi Direct, which works on the same 2.4 and 5GHz spectrum ranges used by your current Wi-Fi network, can only deliver up to 250Mbps, but for sending files to a buddy or to a printer that may be all you need. Apple seems to think so. Experts like Glenn Fleishman think that Apple’s next version of Mac OS, Lion, includes Wi-Fi Direct under the name AirDrop. That’s at least one wire, to my printer, gone.

Moving on 802.11ac, the next generation of Wi-Fi, will give you devices that can handle 1Gbps speed in the 5Ghz range. Alas, you won’t see these until the end of 2012.

You may very well see the even faster, but far more shortly ranged, WiGig/802.11ad devices before then. This technology will be able to reach up to 7Gbps but at range of only a few meters. But, isn’t that the same range as a Thunderbolt or USB? Why yes, yes it is.

If you move your device out of range, no problem. WiGig chipsets will automatically downshift to 802.11n. Like Thunderbolt, WiGig also supports multiple protocols such as HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) and DisplayPort.

Sure, it’s no 10Gbps, but it’s more than fast enough for say streaming HD video from a media server to multiple HDTVs. What more do you want? I quite like the idea of having a flat-screen TV on the wall without any wires showing or expensive behind the wall wiring. I’d also like to be able to move about my office without entangling myself with the dozens of wires hooking up my PCs and servers to the wiring closet.

All-in-all, Thunderbolt does sound good, but the rise of Gigabit and faster Wi-Fi networking and direct device to device wireless connections sounds even better.

Wires? We don’t need no stinking wires!

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system; 300bps was a fast Internet connection; WordStar was the state of the art word processor; and we liked it.

His work has been published in everything from highly technical publications (IEEE Computer, ACM NetWorker, Byte) to business publications (eWEEK, InformationWeek, ZDNet) to popular technology (Computer Shopper, PC Magazine, PC World) to the mainstream press (Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, BusinessWeek).

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RE: Wires? We don't need no stinking Wires! Gigabit Wi-Fi
icreate@... 29th Dec
Did anyone proof-read this article? On several occasions I noticed that the grammar was off and that words are missing.
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I really hope that manufacturers do explore this technology. For reasons you already listed this would be really nice to have.
@Loverock Davidson: among other engineering assistance, Apple provided physical outlet it earlier designed from "mini Display Port".

Without Apple this thing would not fly off, because Intel by itself would just settle for USB 3.0. It is good, but not good enough for Apple.

As to wires thing, scientists in Europe recently concluded five-year long research on health of trees near by Wi-Fi hotspots, and conclusions are really bad.

I mean there is no way to want a 24/7 microwaving in your house if it could be avoidable with wires.

(However, in case of iPad, avoid wireless is impossible, because otherwise you loose all of the freedom this device grants.)
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@denisrs

With all due respect, those studies in Europe are being ridiculed because they didn't search for other reasons why the trees were having problems.

The energy coming from a router is also VERY LOW ENERGY, meaning that it is nothing like being near a microwave at all.
@Lerianis10: ... trees in different places -- with few among them being near Wi-Fi transmitters, and few being radio-free.

Since in all five years progress/regress was perfectly consistent with the fact where Wi-Fi transmitters were set and were they were not, there is no way to doubt the results -- as of now.

Also, the damage that trees have got was quite specific and not similar to any known epidemic tree disease. And, since these trees are apart, it is not quite possible for them to "coincidentally" became ill of some previously unknown disease -- only when and where Wi-Fi transmitters were installed.

It should be taken into consideration that Wi-Fi maximum range is 100 meters, and since these transmitters were "public hot spot", they had maximum possible power for that standard. Home Wi-Fi modems are usually weaker than 100 metres.
off firewire. usb3 is the end of it. Intel already had light peak done. apple wants people to think theyre smart so they went to intel and begged for this. And then in a fit of ultra lame short sightedness they hacked it on display port. Intel mocks them while tolerating them as a ship vehicle. I have seen the nics, the optical ones, not copper. Intel doesnt need apple for anything. What Intel needs is to get this on to tvs...
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@Johnny Vegas
nix_hed 28th Feb 2011
Except that when you go into any pro audio or video production studio, the connector of choice is currently 1394. USB just doesn't do a good enough job with timing, and being that production booths need as much bandwidth as possible when it comes to video, USB 3 or eSATA won't be as flexible as thunderbolt/light peak.

Of course, when your $500 HP finally gets this tech in 4 years, you'll wonder how you lived without it.
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What about the lengthy approval process
sameer.alam@... 25th Feb 2011
if i remember correctly 802.11n took what 2 years or more to ratify??? so we then had pre-n stuff. I hope this is not going to face the same issues before its on the shelves.
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@sameer.alam@... More like five years. That was a special case. It was a long industry war disguised as a standardization process. For more than you could want to know about that see my "short" version of the tale:

http://practical-tech.com/network/802-11n-fast-wi-fis-long-tortuous-road-to-standardization/2351/

In these cases though everyone who matters is already on board. There are some competitor technologies to WiGig, but they're one company specifications & I don't see them getting broad traction.

Steven
Yeah, but what about sharing that bandwidth. With TB you get that speed per controller. With WiFi you have to share that bandwidth and in some cases there will be latency issues. I suspect that CPU loading is highly dependent on the WiFi adapter you use. This technology is designed to off-load the CPU. Secondly for portable devices I suspect that there is a significant power savings with a physical connection vs WiFi.

And, you can't power devices (well, any significant power) with WiFi
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Horses for courses
Richard Flude 25th Feb 2011
All technologies have their pros and cons. Wireless is not a substitute for wired in all applications, it complements it.
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@DevGuy_z That will be a problem with 802.11ac, which lives in the 5GHz range and possible with Wi-Fi, which piggy-backs on the existing 802.11g/n technologies. But, 802/11ad/WiGig lives at 60GHz, has very short range, and is directional. In short, the technology that's the most direct replacement for Thunderbolt/USB 3 won't have any trouble.

The real problem with this stuff, weirdly enough, is CPU speed that can keep up with the encryption demands if you want to use it securely, but that's a sgtory for another day.

Steven
That's nice, but as you said, none of the ones you listed are available yet! And the dates you gave are estimates; nobody actually knows when (or if) they will be available. Future technology always sounds better than what we've currently got.
And what about bandwidth? Frankly, I have trouble with my 802.11n connection sometimes because, according to my Windows Networking center, there are over 25 wireless routers that it can see in the vicinity. All are using 2.4GHz or 5GHz (which doesn't give as strong a signal at a distance as 2.4, at least in my building). It's crowded out there and adding more wireless devices to the mix won't help unless they move into new frequencies.
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@Unusual1 Unless you're using the next generation of Macs, also due out RSN, you'll be using Thunderbolt either anytime soon. The PC OEMs are really, really pleased about that let me tell you!

Steven
So basically you're asking, if we ignore the advantages of Thunderbolt, what are the advantages of Thunderbolt?
Interesting... Are we talking WiFi "backbones"? Obviously not for big-time data centers, but for the small business server rooms or even comm closets?
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Wi-Fi?
james347 25th Feb 2011
You must be joking? Ever heard of dropped connections/signals. Happens a lot with Wi-Fi in case you have been living under a rock. Besides, wireless will never touch wired connection speeds....EVER!
@james347
I agree, the real speed for wireless networks is often 1/10 of the advertised speed. wifi is not a panaceea!
It will be relegated to low security and low speed home usage.
@james347 ... agreed! anything wireless should never, ever, EVER, in a kajillion, kamillion, kabillion years be released the the general public - I spend more time explaining to customers why their wireless internet goes down everytime they pick up their cordless phone (yes, I've installed a Dual-Bank Wireless N Router, but try to explain to a Real estate rep why they need to buy a new network card), than it would take to wire the entire building.

I can just see what would happen with data loss, and malfunctioning devices ...

Wireless = Rosanne Barr
Wired = Katherine Zeta Jones

Which would you rather be on?

(I know, kinda sexist, sorry about that, but you get the point.

Ludo
Wireless is nice for mobile clients but aside from that I'll deal with the wiring in exchange for stable connections and faster speeds (my guess is gigabit wi-fi will arrive around the same time as home 10Gbit switches.)
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Wireless is great and all, but then you have to
Snooki_smoosh_smoosh 25th Feb 2011
be concerned about OTA data channels running into other data channels. Much of the time, I have issues with my Wireless at home, because I live in such a densely populated area, with WAP's stomping on each other all the time. I have a monthly routine of sniffing out the traffic trying to be sure I am on an open channel.

Personally I would prefer having my place wired up, and have a WAP for my laptop, and wireless devices, and leave my entertainment area connected via copper or glass.
Key point.

I am sure we are still more than half a decade away from these technologies.
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Wired serves a purpose
terry flores 25th Feb 2011
What makes wired so irritating is the lack of vision as well as standards. With today's technology, it should only take one wire to connect a system to everything. And if the wire is unplugged, then the system should be able to fall back multiple levels of wireless depending on range. A system that gracefully degrades and heals itself is completely doable, but not in our current ramshackle "standards" environment.

Instead of competition benefiting consumers, it has kept us in the dark ages. Companies are willingly sabotaging standardization efforts all for increasing profits by a percentage point or two.
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Wires? we don't need any wires!
Montebello 25th Feb 2011
Wires? why do you want wireless? just to get more bandwidth? For my I would like to get rid of all my cables at home! Just like http://www.getpowerpad.com/
A really good solution for wireless charging your mobile devices.
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When you look at what is coming down the road with every appliance in your home connected wirelessly the existing tech has to improve in a major way to handle it all.
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well privacy...
sparkle farkle 26th Feb 2011
I doubt they're encrypting it at that speed, and spectrum overlap, although it may be nice to be able to watch your neighbor's tv programming, and security (see privacy)
The wired connection requires less by orders of magnitude power to support similar transfer speeds.
Regarding radio emissions: Is it convenient to cook in the microwave stow? Yes. But it usable only to reheat junk food, because good products are losing their taste and nutritious advantages being prepared with UHF. And the known fact about UHF that it makes men's heads hairless.
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is microsoft back?
rhon@... 28th Feb 2011
Interesting to see that you discourage people from adopting Thunderbolt, because maybe, really maybe we might have a technique in place within 3 years or so that can guarantee a fraction of the speed that we can get now? Many years ago it was called Vaporware, empty promises of MS who was trying to discourage people from buying a competitive product.
Speed is great, but what about reliability? That's the biggest problem with wi-fi today. I really don't need a faster way to corrupt my files.
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I'll take the wires, thank you very much
catseverywhere@... 28th Feb 2011
There are a number of studies that implicate high frequency RF with health/environmental problems... at any power. It's not all about the ionizing.

Common sense says this can't be all good and totally harmless.

Plus wired is plain faster and vastly more easily secured.

People today are paying for the beta testing of the base hardware that will result in total enslavement; your whereabouts, words, actions, moods and even thoughts known to faceless "authority" somewhere, 24/7.

No thanks. Especially for 'entertainment.' There's nothing worth watching that requires HD. I own a lot of books. I do not own a TV.

Here's a good example of "worth watching" as far as I'm concerned; someone's home movies from 1947 of a train running by near where I now live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu34hQfnlK4

Don't need no steenkkeen high def for that!

And for high fidelity sound: tube amplifier and vinyl records. Sorry, newer is not always better...
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Let's see -- a wire that I installed, and control the connections at the ends and through the middle, or...

Broadcast all my packets so anyone with a compatible network card and appropriate freeware can read them.

My house is hardwired.
Foolish people, that 1gb/s or 10gb/s doesn't meant much except for local significants. Your LAN will be fast, but much to our demands, WAN speeds are so much slower.

Why the hell would I go for DP or PCI-e for networking when CAT-6 & 7 would still get me the 10gb/s??? On top of which, Wireless is still in it's infancy stage. It is not nearly as reliable or secure, plus once 1gb wireless hits, 10gb wired would be cheep enough for consumer use. But yet, even this is all useless externally.
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Marketing hype...
nix_hed 28th Feb 2011
Just like my 270 mbit/sec wireless N connection runs closes to about 130 mbit/sec after encryption, I'm sure that all of the other technologies will only connect at half-speed. Also, as far as your high-def streaming goes, how many streams can be run depend on any number of factors - source of streams, allotted bandwidth, stream size, etc. For example, I have enough bandwidth on my current Wireless N network to support 5 or 6 AppleTV devices streaming 720p content from my computer simultaneously, with enough Wireless G bandwidth to support 1 more HD video stream; even with all of this data flowing out of my Gigabit-connected computer, it doesn't even come close to saturating my connection (grand total of ~20 MiB/sec or 160 mbit/sec over the network).

You can preach the death of wires, but until it's as fool-proof, idiot-proof, stable, and fast as wired, WiFi will never truly replace wired networking or device to device cabling.
I think your analysis was incomplete.
- You should have said Thunderbolt (copper) throughout the article.
- Wikipedia has a very thorough explanation of Thunderbolt/LightPeak's development and future plans, re; Thunderbolt (optical).
- capacity first, then speed. if one has an 8 core pumping data down the line, it has to be in "parallel" and not serial; otherwise you HD streams, etc. would stutter.
- Firewire became obsolete like floppies, not adoption

read the Wiki article - may be the future

MRN
Yeah, let's do everything wireless, because WiFi security is so simple and easy for everyone to understand and set up.
Personally I am getting nervous about all the high-power wi-fi around us. It's why I don't have a cell phone and don't plan to use a lot of the other stuff.
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me too
pgit 6th Mar 2011
@texznet I have been concerned about this before they started building the first cell towers. I buttonholed a lot of politicians and tried to talk sense into them, to put a stop to this deployment or curtail it at least until a truly independent set of studies could be done.

We have no idea what all the EMR we are bathing ourselves in is doing to us, the environment or anything else for that matter.

I have always said just because we CAN do something doesn't mean we should do it.
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It'll probaly break
wizardb@... 28th Feb 2011
Just like the SATA ports on their new motherboards!!
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Give me the wires
jet1959mo@... 28th Feb 2011
Until any kind of wifi can catch up to the speed possible on Thunderbolt, I'll stick with the wires. I don't like them either but;
There is another brief out that does state that Thunderbolt can and will deliver the 100gbps but, Intel won't set it up that way at first. When I build a new computer, I want Thunderbolt so my data will move fast over my ssd's and transfer to my external drive faster. Yes I know ssd's aren't ready for that yet but, wait till Thunderbolt is released. WD is on the bandwagon already.
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problems with so many wifi hotspots?
connyfoo 28th Feb 2011
@unusual1

that problem has pretty much been solved

google beamforming antennas

ruckus is a pioneer with enterprise level wifi and you should see it seep into consumer products in the future.
Did anyone proof-read this article? On several occasions I noticed that the grammar was off and that words are missing.

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