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Ellison dithering is costing Oracle money

By | December 8, 2009, 6:37am PST

Summary: Pride goes before a fall, Mr. E. A mySQL Foundation raises money, improves maintenance of the code base, and lets you make more money in the long run than winning a pissing match with the Eurocrats. Stop dithering and do business.

Dithering has become one of the big insult words of 2009.

The President was said to be dithering on Afghanistan. The Senate was said to be dithering on health care.

It’s both a technical term and a non-technical one. Dither makes your CD clearer by preventing banding on a recording. Dithering in this case is good, it clarifies.

That’s not what the critics mean. They mean shaking with cold and doing nothing about it, in short vacillating. The insult means you should take action, some action, before you catch your political death.

Over the last few weeks open source users have gotten into a dither over Larry Ellison’s dithering. He demands the EC approve his purchase of Sun, no preconditions, and when that’s not happening he just stands out there in the cold.

It’s not making the music of this merger any clearer, or its picture any sharper. That is certain. The intent to use mySQL is falling, Sun is losing server share, and companies like Red Hat and VMWare’s SpringSource unit are taking up the slack on Java for their own reasons. IBM is not going to let Open Office just die.

My silly idea, of creating a Foundation among mySQL stakeholders, makes more and more sense. Separate the code from the money, and you take the money, Larry.

Business, like nature, abhors a vacuum, and the impasse between Oracle and the EC, while highly entertaining and strangely satisfying in a nationalistic sort of way, is bad for business. And business is business. It’s not romance, it’s not war, it’s not about feelings. It’s just business.

Pride goes before a fall, Mr. E. A mySQL Foundation raises money, improves maintenance of the code base, and lets you make more money in the long run than winning a pissing match with the Eurocrats.

Stop dithering and do business.

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interesting proposal..
Aussie_linux_user 9th Dec 2009
"If such an organization emerged quickly and "guaranteed" , that their first release would be identical to the MySQL code base there would be less emphasis on Oracle owning MySQL."

like a fork which only change comments in the code.. (i.e. version comments or something)...
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well im in accord with that statement
Quebec-french 8th Dec 2009
Business is business no busibness is war with
all its massacre and dirty move .... because if
business would be civilize there would no need
for rules and regulation anti-trust , and
other law .


we are in recession because business is war no
one have ever look what you be the consequence
in 2005-6-7 with fake mortgage and everything
that come with it the only thing important was
profit .....

Ellision is one of the few General in this war
that did not change course or did not slow down
.

but this time he face a enemy who's goal is
not money or business EC goal is about
regulation And EC is a enemy that you cant bluff or intimidate . you comply or face the consequence.

At this time if Ellision dont make a move or
make a decision HE will be responsible for
neither failure of the sun purchase or its
complete success .

People are talking about sun market share on
server and how bad its going .... Are we even
sure if Ellison care about this or he as other
plan for SUN.....

One thing is sure Ellison must make a move fast
and change the situation give in on EC demanded and find a way to make them pay later.

Or keep the course and play chicken with a
organization who as nothing to loose .....
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The main culprit is not Ellison
Linux Geek 8th Dec 2009
but M$ who had activated its agents infiltrated in the EC to torment Sun, Oracle and the OSS community.
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Can I have some ...
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 8th Dec 2009
... of whatever you're smoking?

If anyone has suffered at the hands of Eurocrats, it's MS. One might therefore assume that Oracle, Sun, RedHat, Mozilla, Google, Opera and others collaborated to induce the EU to torment MS.

And yet MS' detractors are unhappy that they get held to the same bar as MS does? Shame.

It's uncomfortable when the shoe doesn't fit, isn't it Larry?
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As usual from you...
IT_Guy_z 8th Dec 2009
...a completely assinine statement. You are one sick puppy.
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MySQL is only symbolic
D T Schmitz 8th Dec 2009
and Ellison/Oracle cannot control the open source process.

If MySQL dies, there will always be a replacement for it.
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I hope not. I'd hate to see it get shot down that way.
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Ellison doesn't have the best interests of the community at heart. And I don't see Oracle being a benevolent corporate governance.

It's an opportunity to shelve a competing DB product and gain a nice mainframe business all in one bundle.

MariaDB is the community's 'ace in the hole'.
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MariaDB or other version of MySQL
codehopper 9th Dec 2009
You always hear that users can switch. No one ever seems to mention the effort required to migrate and regression test when you move databases and data from one DB to another.

Alternatives may "identical" to the original code but there is time and cost in proving that.

From a "flagship" point of view you need a "central" body to coordinate all of the open source efforts into a cohesive framework, similar to how the various linux distroes are handled.

If such an organization emerged quickly and "guaranteed" , that their first release would be identical to the MySQL code base there would be less emphasis on Oracle owning MySQL.
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interesting proposal..
Aussie_linux_user 9th Dec 2009
"If such an organization emerged quickly and "guaranteed" , that their first release would be identical to the MySQL code base there would be less emphasis on Oracle owning MySQL."

like a fork which only change comments in the code.. (i.e. version comments or something)...
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Ellison's personality is both his biggest asset and liability. What Ellison did in the America's Cup is perfect example of this. He built up the perfect yacht and team but everything unraveled in the end, because when things start to go wrong in Larry's world, his destructive and overbearing side comes to the forefront. It's amazing to me that Oracle is as successful of a company as it is given this personality flaw. Though, if I were an employee at Oracle and things start getting tough for Larry, I still would be worried. This "mean" streak may in-the-end, get the better of him and we may yet end up seeing Oracle go down in flames as a result.
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Question on the ramifications for MySQL
Third of Five 9th Dec 2009
My understanding of the law here is that Oracle could go ahead with this, but if they did so without EU approval, they would not be able to do business in the EU (although I would have to imagine that any outstanding agreements; e.g. support contracts, would have to be honored).

However, would this affect MySQL's use in the EU as well?

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