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Enterprises must understand a mainframe is not a cloud

By | September 23, 2010, 5:19am PDT

Summary: Mainframes are not clouds. Neither IBM nor Oracle want you to know that. It would kill them for you to understand that. In time it will.

For proprietary companies clouds are a tough deal.

Clouds don’t care about operating systems. They don’t care about where data is. They don’t care about constraints like CPU speed, memory, or formats. They expand as needed, in the background.

Mainframes are not clouds. Neither IBM nor Oracle want you to know that. It would kill them for you to understand that.

In time it will.

So an effort is underway by proprietary companies to embrace and extend their technologies into the cloud metaphor, inducing (or forcing) customers to take them into the new age.

It’s a process that will take this whole decade to shake out. Clouds are still so new enterprises can’t yet get their heads around them. So they are easy to market against.

  • You mean I don’t care what hardware is on my desk?
  • You mean I don’t need a server room?
  • You mean I can’t see my stuff? My applications, my data, are they still mine?

In Amazon’s EC2 cloud, which remains the flexible enterprise cloud of choice, the business process is seamless. Users don’t need to know their applications and data are somewhere else. They keep working as before. All that complexity is abstracted, outsourced.

To make this happen, of course, your old stuff must plug into the cloud. This gives proprietary companies their opportunity, because they can (at first) dictate the terms of this move.

My point today is, this won’t continue, if enterprise customers understand that the cloud should be their goal, that abstraction is the means to that end, and the way forward is to take only what they need into the cloud, only the essential tools needed to keep the transition seamless.

Once your data and tools are all in the cloud, all those proprietary advantages become simply formats, choices that can be transformed and remade once tools are available which virtualize enterprise software as enterprise hardware is now virtualized.

You go in with all your IT baggage, and over time work to reduce that baggage, repeatedly making choices based on minimizing your costs.

Which means minimizing your commitments to any particular vendor. Even Amazon.

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Dana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for 30 years, a tech freelancer since 1983.

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RE: Enterprises must understand a mainframe is not a cloud
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... if you really understand ...
johnfenjackson@... Updated - 23rd Sep 2010
... then you will realise that:

1. Cloud offerings are likely to be very expensive, to make fortunes for the purveyors and their shareholders.

2. If you could follow Google's model (clever architecture on commodity items) then costs would be an order of magnitude less.

3. If the incumbent monopolists go too far with their virtualisation designs ... then they will provide architectures which allows individuals and businesses to take ownership of the network and computing power back ... instead of paying monopoly rents.

Or you can remain a corporate sheep.
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"Clouds dont care about operating systems. They dont care about where data is. They dont care about constraints like CPU speed, memory, or formats. They expand as needed, in the background."

Do you believe in magic?

Seriously - whether it's on a desktop or on a server, it has to run on an actual computer somewhere.

Yeah - sounds to me like the word "cloud" is a meaningless term now. Not that it ever had any meaning to begin with.
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Clouds are...
david.hunt@... 26th Sep 2010
@CobraA1 Vapourware.

If we take the definitions in this article, you can have clouds in your computer room if you overprovision and lock the door so users cannot see the equipment !!

The recipe to go bust is still to outsource your core business... that applies to the computer systems that support those core activities too.
blah blah blah Cloud blah blah. It's just another repackaging of a fundamental series of tenets of computing meant to sell someone's "product". The end-user should not be concerned with where the service is provided, just what the results are and if they are cost-effective. It doesn't matter if the service is running on a mainframe, mid-range, PC or cellphone. Once again, some are mis-framing the concept to forward their personal agendas and marketing campaigns.
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@sysary how many end users actually read these articles? this site/story isnt for the cube dwellers, its for the people who make sure the end user is getting what they need, and those people SHOULD be concerned where its coming from.
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The 'cloud' is just a larger main-frame!
Gaius_Maximus 23rd Sep 2010
It's bigger, and gets shared by more users, so individual peaks disappear more into the 'cloud's 'ocean' than they would into a single firm's 'pond' or 'lake'. (Shall we carry on with these silly analogies?)

The main problem with the cloud is the lack of control, and that can not be changed. Ever. And that's the point.

The imagined advantages of the 'cloud' are just rouses used to lure firms and users away from self-determination and independence toward utility computing, and utility-like bills, outages, and dependency.

Let us never forget why and how the PC revolution came about.

And the main-frame is to the firm what the PC is to the individual.
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@Gaius_Maximus Obviously I disagree. Because a cloud doesn't consist of one computer, and need not be based in one location.
Nick, True, the implementor of the service needs some knowledge of the source but if the service is architected correctly, most of that knowledge is superfluous. The "trick" is to architect things so that platform independance is "built-in" or at least maximized. That way, any intervening "transformation" of the data is relatively straight forward. The onus of this is ALWAYS on the designer/implementor, not the end-user.
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knowledge, dentists routinely perform very intricate handwork
to exceedingly narrow tolerances in challenging, confined
environments for conscious and sometimes wriggly people
who would prefer to be elsewhere ? and half the time we do lys
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require unhurried dentistry.

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