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Firefox 5's rapid debut shows that Mozilla is in the fight

By | June 21, 2011, 10:55am PDT

Summary: Mozilla execs weren’t kidding when they were talking about a rapid release cycle. The debut of Firefox 5 today, just about three months after the much awaited Firefox 4 was released, testifies to the open source organization’s sense of urgency in the face of increased competition from Google and others. Download.com: Mozilla Firefox 5 To be fair, Firefox [...]

Mozilla execs weren’t kidding when they were talking about a rapid release cycle.

The debut of Firefox 5 today, just about three months after the much awaited Firefox 4 was released, testifies to the open source organization’s sense of urgency in the face of increased competition from Google and others.

Download.com: Mozilla Firefox 5

To be fair, Firefox 5 is not as huge an upgrade as version 4 was, and nor should it be. The last major point upgrade took three years to complete. Firefox 3 was made available in the summer of 2008. Firefox 3.5 debuted in June of 2009. Firefox 4 was finished in March of this year.

Version 5.0 does contain significant performance improvements, improved features for development, such as support for CSS animations,  and improved discoverability of important features, such as the Do Not Tracking privacy feature. Mozilla was smart to point out that its latest rev is the only web browser to offer this feature on all platforms, including Windows, Macintosh, Linux and Android.

It is also more secure and stable, as would be expected.

The entry of Google (its key benefactor) into its market with the Chrome browser, and now the full Chrome OS, is no doubt concerning for Firefox’s worldwide community of developers, users and backers. The departure of a number of development execs didn’t help.

Chrome’s share of the browser market has leapfrogged to 12.5, as of May 2011, up from 7.2 percent last July.

There’s no doubt Google has stolen some of Firefox’s share, and share growth the organization probably  counted on before Google entered the market. But the world hasn’t crumbled for Mozilla the way it did for some projects and companies once Google stepped in.  And it likely won’t, in part because of the organization’s healthy response to competition and  because of its established stature in the market, worldwide support for the browser (one of the most successful open source projects ever) and the need choices in the open source market.

I don’t question Firefox’s future and survivability. It still has more than 20 percent market share.

But I do question how long Mozilla will remain a free standing open source project with Google as its key benefactor.  I hope it does.  Many corporations can step in and fill Google’s funding if necessary.

But is an acquisition in Mozilla’s future? We’ll see. But in the interim, Mozilla’s stepped up development cycle and confident approach to the competition is encouraging.

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Paula Rooney is a Boston-based writer who has followed the tech industry for almost two decades.

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Paula Rooney owns no stock in the companies that she covers. She holds a 401K that is managed by Morgan Stanley.

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Paula Rooney

Paula Rooney has covered the software and technology industry for more than 20 years, starting with semiconductor design and mini-computer systems at EDN News and later focused on PC software companies including Microsoft, Lotus, Oracle, Red Hat, Novell and other open source and commercial software companies for CRN and PCWeek. She received a silver award from the American Society of Business Publication Editors in 2005 for her profile on Linus Torvalds and edited and co-authored "Partnering With Microsoft," a book about Microsoft's channel published by CMP Publishing in 2004. Rooney graduated from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism in 1997. In her off time, she enjoys scuba diving, sailing, sun worshipping, running, reading, surfing (the net) and hanging out with her family. She resides on the shores of Scituate, Massachusetts.

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RE: Firefox 5's rapid debut shows that Mozilla is in the fight
Clayman1000x 23rd Jun
@DeRSSS I have never had FF4 or 5 crash on me, or 3.6 and older.
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Excellent point
facebook@... 21st Jun
How soon will Google bleed off its support of Chrome in favor of its own propietary system.
@facebook@...

Chrome exists for Google to put pressure on other browsers to get better. It doesn't really matter for Google how much market share it gets, it just needs to make all the other browsers up their game to make the web more usable.

Similarly, Google will be perfectly happy to see Firefox's market share grow as Google is the default search engine in it.
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Thats a noble thought
DontBeEvil 21st Jun
@OffsideInVancouver
"Chrome exists for Google to put pressure on other browsers to get better"

but I dont think any publicly traded company's (Google) CEO will earmark significant human and technical resource out of the company's operating expenditure to build a team like Chrome just push other browsers to be better!!

If that was the case then they could just continue funding Firefox like they do an call it a day.
@OffsideInVancouver I agree. Let's be honest people pit different web mediums against each other but Google just wants you to use the search engine. The biggest threat is iOS with it's own mobile ads and Windows with Bing put into every IE browser. The win in the end. If you are not reading something, you are looking it up so that's what makes them so potent.
@DontBeEvil

You're mistaken. Otherwise Google wouldn't give the Mozilla organization as well as Opera Software wads of cash to make Google the default search engine.

OffsideInVancouver's analysis is dead right.
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Who says Google wan't Firefox to fade away??
thx-1138_@... Updated - 21st Jun
@facebook@... it's in Google's interest to have FF, as Firefox has the agreement to include Google as it's default search engine.

Here's a heads-up: Firefox is a huge marketing (audience) avenue that Google *wants* - just like any other marketing opportunity / stream. This has (as far as Google is concerned) always been more to do with marketing than browser competition. In fact, this was never, arguably, about competition at all - but actually about brand exposure .

Show us a business that wants to decrease it's marketing exposure and i'll show you an honest, upright and soundly principled politician.

So, no, you are wrong - and obviously know little (..if anything) about Marketing. Try to do more research before posting.
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Or it's just for the sake of fast releases.
@LBiege: ... update before showing even single page/tab from my previous auto-saves session by FF4.

Not a nice start, to say it mildly. FF4 crashed at least once a day -- what never happened in FF3.6 -- lets see if FF5, despite this crazy update crashes, will behave better.
@DeRSSS FF5 on Mac, right?
Firefox on Mac has always sucked. Mac seems to be an afterthought for Mozilla.
@Stark_Industries
@DeRSSS I have never had FF4 or 5 crash on me, or 3.6 and older.
Glad to see Firefox is in the fight. Anything to put pressure and competition on Chrome.
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Quite simply, Microsoft can't win against Agile
Dietrich T. Schmitz, *~* Your Linux Advocate 21st Jun
Congrats to the Agile Mozilla Developer Team!!
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, *~* Your Linux Advocate

And what does this article have anything to do with MS freaking troll and as is didnt MS just announce that they will be releasing IE on a yearly basis now?
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You just can't win, can you?
Will Pharaoh 21st Jun
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, *~* Your Linux Advocate

The more you think you're "discrediting MS" the more your reputation sinks . (not that it has much room left to go)

And you really think this will get people to want to use your services?

LOL! happy
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jerang@... Updated - 21st Jun
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Excellent way to introduce MS in the discussion
DontBeEvil Updated - 21st Jun
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, *~* Your Linux Advocate

where the article never even mentions that companys name!!
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Agile is synonymous of hack
wackoae 21st Jun
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, *~* Your Linux Advocate

I prefer companies take an acceptable amount of time designing and developing a product right from the beginning instead of just releasing hacks full of bugs and vulnerabilities.

Just because Google doesn't believe in software quality control it should not mean that the rest of the world should rush out products and follow their irresponsible footsteps.
@Dietrich T. Schmitz, *~* Your Linux Advocate Im running FF5 (4.1.0 really) on Windows 7 Ultimate x64!
@Dietrich

What development methodology is Google using? Their browser seems to be the one to beat.
@otaddy Google uses agile development with little (if any) quality control.

They can pop out versions every other week because they don't do any kind of significant testing (ie: they let the user do it for them).

Out of all the browsers in the market, Chrome is the one that has issues displaying websites correctly ... when all the others have no problem.
I dumped Chrome because it was always crashing (FaceBook games) and went back to Firefox, it seems a lot more stable even though I've been using beta's.
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Why not just call it 4.5?
klockheed 21st Jun
This is stupid.
@klockheed

Because Google ups major version numbers. It's just a psychological game. Firefox doesn't want to appear to be "slow". Google adds 3D acceleration for CSS and BAM! new major version number. In the end it's all arbitrary. If you look at various open source projects like say OpenSSL or Ethereal/Wireshark they would only ever move the version number in 1/100 or 1/10 increments. Again, it is all arbitrary. In this case, it's just to match Google's "marketing", nothing more.
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When are they going 64-bit?
peter_erskine@... 21st Jun
The Linux Firefox 5 download is still only i686 on X86_64. Disappointing.
@peter_erskine@... I hate flash, but it is one of the reasons 32 bit browsers get more attention from developers.
@wackoae No, not at all really. 64-bit software on Linux and UNIX systems can load 32-bit libraries. Firefox is natively 64-bit on all the Linux distros and 32-bit flash works fine and seamlessly via the 32-bit plugin loader (which itself is just a 64-bit plugin). On Windows, you would be absolutely correct. There's no obvious path to loading 32-bit libraries into a 64-bit application. Thus you need two versions of every program that loads libraries.

I filed a bug with Mozilla years ago about this and last I checked it was sitting open, untouched. They just don't care.
@peter_erskine@...
Just curious: why would you want 64 bit?
@OffsideInVancouver
No it also exists so that they can lock customers into Google search. The company execs also says so. That is why they frantically promote it in the wake of upcoming Windows 8, as it probably is completely integrated to Bing and Microsoft Live services.
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FF 5 now does well on the official javascript standard conformance test at
http://test262.ecmascript.org/
It has the leading score for production browser versions (*) Much better than Chrome 12.
About same as IE9.


(*) For development versions IE10 preview 1 is leading the conformance scores.
3 months is not enought time to increase the version number of a piece of software, not unless you tend to completely re-invent the way version numbers are used. I'll download it because I like Mozilla, but upping the version by a whole number grade is stupid.

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