Google is the new Microsoft

Google is the new Microsoft

Summary: Some time in the last 12 months Google became the new Microsoft, the company everyone want to hate and the trust busters want to investigate.

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Google evilSome time in the last 12 months Google became the new Microsoft, the company everyone want to hate and the trust busters want to investigate.

Its "jump the shark" moment seems to have been its deal with Yahoo.

Regulators on both sides of the pond are now calling Google a monopolist, pushed by powerful interests, so its growing dominance of wireless search will just be used as evidence against it.

Despite this, and despite recent falls in price, Google's P/E ratio is double that of most tech leaders, at around 27. Still, if you're looking for a serious monopolist (and over the last five years a better investment) you should be looking at Apple, not Google.

Despite this reality, Apple's own antitrust problems pale next to Google's. A Mac clone-maker is complaining, and European regulators are sniffing around its iTunes store, but no one wants to break its business arrangements.

I have noted the trend in comments here at ZDNet Open Source. There are a growing number of commenters wanting to dump on Google, sometimes even using the "e" word (for evil) in describing it.

This is not to say Google should stand above criticism. Its rejection of the AGPL makes its internal code as proprietary as Windows. It engages in close dealing just like any other profitable business.

But something has changed. The bloom is off the Google rose. Resistance to its ambitions is rising. It may be that most people do not yet see Google as "evil," but I'm betting some in fact do.

What does this mean for open source?[poll id=88]

Topics: Open Source, Enterprise Software, Google, Government, Government US, Microsoft

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  • This just confirms what I have always suspected

    2 years ago I told a colleague that Google would become the company everyone loves to hate. I am a little suprised that the headline came this soon. Not that I think Google is "evil". They are just doing what corporations do to grow and improve their stock value. Same goes for Microsoft or IBM before them. It's just human nature for some to envy the guy on top. All to often, the envy turns to hatred. Question is how long before this hatred turns in to a recognizeble ABG movement, complete with shills decrying everything Google does on blog posts like this one?
    btidwell
    • I don't think Google is evil

      I did not indicate I believe Google is evil in the
      blog post. In fact, the headline reads "Google is the
      new Microsoft," not that Google is evil, which was
      substantiated with links indicating a lot of antitrust
      action happening against Google today as it was with
      Microsoft a decade ago.

      I am, so far, surprised at how many of those who are
      voting in our poll are willing to call Google evil.
      DanaBlankenhorn
    • Despite all these wordly issues....

      I just want a pc that has a fast browser, and one i can play a few cool games on.

      thats it.

      there's better **** to think about. really. unless you own many shares of one of the companies.
      pcguy777
  • RE: Google is the new Microsoft

    No company can be as evil as M$!
    Google is still the friend of OSS.
    Linux Geek
    • O K with me

      I think of Google as a player back when Microsoft was charging for anything and everything....way back when open source was fun. I'm glad to see them doing good
      wilsoncleaning
  • Put it this way...

    ...when people start telling me that I'm committing professional suicide or risking non-compatibility with "everyone else" by not using Google services, or when I find that I have to go out of my way to avoid Google, I'll think it's reasonable to compare them with MS. Not before.
    John L. Ries
  • Google has to go a long way to become Micrsoft

    to become Microsoft google needs to

    * Finance dubious court cases against rivals
    * Bully PC vendors to sell only Google products and not competitors products
    * Put messages in their software to scare users when used with competitors software
    * Bribe people to get their specs voted in as standards
    Van Der
    • They're getting there

      * Finance dubious court cases against rivals
      --> Well, I would call their complaints about the IE7 search box, and about Windows Search in Vista, dubious. They didn't make it to court because Microsoft has lost its spine and caved.

      * Put messages in their software to scare users when used with competitors software
      --> Google hasn't done it yet, but how long until they try to coerce you into using Chrome to access Google Docs? Apple is using the scare tactic by having me.com greet IE7 users with a warning (complete with the yellow exclamation point icon), using the guise of web compatibility issues to try to gain Safari market share.

      * Bribe people to get their specs voted in as standards
      --> Well, Google has at least one employee (Ian Hickson) whose job is to work full-time on W3C standards such as HTML5, and to write things like Google Gears into the HTML5 spec. Their support of both Firefox and Chrome, combined with the fact that W3C recommendations only need to have two implementations, show they are trying to coerce the specs as well.
      PB_z
    • I disagree (to most extent)

      Google would have to
      -Copy technology and give it a new name (eg. Active Dir. MS-XML MS-TCP/IP and MS-windows)
      -have ambitions to put their ad. on every page on internet.
      -have ambition to 'kill' competion by copying there technology.
      ash_sids
      • and become a complete bunch of lying bsatards ...

        don't forget that one ...
        fr0thy2
  • RE: Google is the new Microsoft

    Google isn't so bad. They've got a LOT of money for a
    company who's majority of products/services are free
    though.

    They'll be the new microsoft when they finish their
    Operating System. I mean "if" they were to create an
    operating system...
    dhorn92
  • It doesn't matter

    Because they're *good*.

    What are you going to do? Use Windows Live Search?
    DavidGerard
  • Google isn't the new Microsoft

    Anymore then Microsoft is the New IBM.

    Microsoft malpractices are so infamous that everybody knows who they are. (and love them or hate them accordingly)
    TedKraan
  • RE: Google is the new Microsoft

    I think Microsoft have simply stuffed up to many times with catastrophes like Microsoft Vista.

    Google have some great products.
    Google Chrome I find too basic
    ipcc1
  • RE: Google is the new Microsoft

    Google is not that evil nor is it not that good. It's a successful business. I would call off the hounds concerning the Yahoo deal but have the FTC look at any impropriety concerning controlling shares in the company and how they were acquired and divvied up, it's practices concerning AdWords, quality of customer service to AdWords customers.
    Google is big, but it ain't an anti-competitive monopoly. 90% of a market base is a monopoly, right? And how is Google illegally stifling competition? How is Google stifling innovation? If anything Google is keeping everybody else on their toes.
    kakman19
  • RE: Google is the new Microsoft

    apart from the search engine for a person like me in IT google is the devil, it brakes everything slows down your pc quiete frankly they are a load of rubbish.they should stick to what there good at because all this extra crap they are trying to bring out is not programmed to deal with anything else I HATE GOOGLE!!!!
    lharron
    • Hello Iharron,

      My goodness you have got all excited about GOOGLE!

      I don't know what you mean about it brakes(sic)everything.
      I use the Search Engine because it is far superiour to the others I have tried .

      I find that they are NOT a load of rubbish .

      Peace and Joy to you.
      elderlybloke
  • Proclaiming one's hatred for Google

    is hardly a convincing response to Dana's brief article on [b]Google[/b] as the new [b]Microsoft[/b] ; the real question is whether, so long as the ?old? [b]Microsoft[/b] continues with the same sort of policies which gave the firm its tarnished reputation, it is meaningful to speak of a ?new? [b]Microsoft[/b]. On the other hand, Dana is certainly correct in that [b]Google[/b] has become a firm that many love to hate - and not merely the typical [b]MS[/b] fanbois that populate the [b][i]ZDNet[/i][/b] discussion fora - but also others, whose judgement is less open to question. [b]Google[/b] has made a lot of mistakes : in addition to the infamous paragraph 11 in the original [b]Chrome[/b] EULA (quickly corrected when the outcry came, which correction to my mind was a plus for [b]Google[/b], but the mention of which was studiously avoided by some of the most rabid [b]Google[/b] haters who publish their (dis)informative blogs on [b][i]ZDNet[/i][/b]), the firm has also, for example, censored certain legitimate news sites by removing them from indexing in [b]Google News[/b]. But when it comes to monopolistic tendencies, [b]Google [/b] cannot hold a candle to (the ?old) [b]Microsoft[/b]. This is not due to inherently lesser tendencies toward ?evil? on the part of the former, but to the fact that its position in its market is very different from that of [b]Microsoft[/b], and doesn't quite permit the excesses in which the latter has indulged. For my part, I shall continue to use [b]Google [/b] products when and where they fit my needs, as very many of them do....

    Henri
    mhenriday
    • Make an intelligent choice!

      Greetings Henri, All<BR><BR>

      [i]On the other hand, Dana is certainly correct in that <b>Google</b> has become a firm that many love to hate - and not merely the typical <b>MS</b> fanbois that populate the <b><u>ZDNet</u></b> discussion fora - but also others, whose judgement is less open to question. [/i]<BR><BR>

      Finally! Someone who knows how to spell! Henri, your post is the only place I have seen "fora" used---and properly, too!<BR><BR>

      [i]For my part, I shall continue to use <b>Google</b> products when and where they fit my needs, as very many of them do....[/i]<BR><BR>

      Using those products which work for one, and ignoring the products with which one cannot do useful work, is the way I choose My products, and is the way I believe everyone should choose anything. I have found, over the course of forty-plus years, that making a reasoned choice works rather well, but basing My choices on what the herd are using has always failed Me. <BR><BR>
      Master David Goodmen
      Master Dave
  • The stupidity of applying the word "evil" to a company is mind boggling

    I mean are Google, Microsoft, or Apple burning villages of children in Southeast Asia?

    Seriously... The gravity that people in the West place on these issues shows just how staggeringly spoiled our culture has become.

    A company wants its product to be universal. Yeah great. Thats a big shock. Very "evil". Its nice to be so comfortable that THIS is your definition of "evil".

    For most people on earth, "evil" is the guy who kills your family for $5.
    mlambert8909