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Intel distributes LibreOffice, can Microsoft be pleased?

By | February 23, 2012, 9:56am PST

Summary: Intel is now offering the open-source office suite LibreOffice on its application store, Intel AppUp, for Windows users. I wonder what Microsoft thinks about this…

Intel supports LibreOffice, can Microsoft be pleased?

Intel supports LibreOffice, can Microsoft be pleased?

LibreOffice, the OpenOffice fork, is a very popular open-source office suite. But, while it has great support from Linux distributors, like openSUSE and Ubuntu, LibreOffice has never had a major corporate backer on the Windows side… until now. Intel is now offering LibreOffice to Windows users via its AppUp application store. I wonder how Microsoft feels about this.

According to The Document Foundation (TDF), the newly incorporated group behind LibreOffice, “LibreOffice for Windows from SUSE is available in Intel AppUp Center as a special, five-language version featuring English, German, French, Spanish and Italian. As a validated Intel AppUp Center app, LibreOffice for Windows from SUSE features a new, smooth, silent installation flow and improved un-installation cleanup.” This version of LibreOffice for Windows is now available from the Intel AppUp store.

Of course, LibreOffice has long been available on Windows, as well as Linux and Mac OS X. What’s different about this is that Intel, Microsoft’s long time ally, is now actively supporting Microsoft Office’s most active rival. Certainly, on the cloud, Google Docs is Office’s biggest enemy but on the good old PC desktop, LibreOffice is Microsoft’s Office main competition.

Nor, is Intel just enabling LibreOffice to be downloaded from its site. No, Intel is actively working on improving the LibreOffice code base. In a statement, Dawn Foster, open source community lead, at Intel said, “I have been using LibreOffice from day one for presentations at conferences and for data analysis. Our engineers have worked with the LibreOffice codebase to optimize it for Intel hardware. Adding it to the AppUp Center is an obvious extension, and will provide an exciting feature for all Ultrabook users.”

Intel has also joined The Document Foundation. That means Intel is also financially supporting this rival to Microsoft Office.

Needless to say TDF is happy. “We are thrilled to add Intel to our existing roster of supporters”, said Florian Effenberger, a TDF board member in a statement, “TDF is first and foremost a vendor neutral project committed to excellence in the office suite space, but we greatly value the support and advice we gain from organizations such as SUSE, Red Hat, Google, the Free Software Foundation (FSF) and Software in the Public Interest (SPI).”

Curiously enough, SUSE, a Linux company, with long-time ties to Microsoft, took the technical lead in delivering this Windows version of LibreOffice.

I, for one, find it very interesting that two Microsoft allies, Intel and SUSE, are promoting a program that’s targeted straight at Microsoft’s cash cow: Microsoft Office. Perhaps Intel feels slighted as Microsoft puts its attention on Windows 8 on ARM? Might it be that Intel wants users getting exciting about Windows 7-powerd Ultrabooks instead of Windows 8 ARM-powered tablets? Maybe SUSE, which used to partner closely with Microsoft on Linux and Windows network integration, feels neglected? I don’t know. I do know Microsoft can’t be happy.

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And yet there are many companies
John Zern 23rd Feb
@itguy10
that people thought would go ou of business:

Does the name Apple ring a bell?

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GM? Different situation entirely, completely and totally.
Cayble 30th Apr
You even suggesting some possible comparison with MS and GM is a joke. The two situations are so different in so many huge and fundamental ways you might just as well be comparing eggs and pork chops.

First of all, in case you missed it, GM is a company involved in heavy manufacturing. MS is not. At all. In fact there are huge differences between obstacles faced in a company involved in heavy manufacturing and a software company. Perhaps not as much difference as between running a farm and running a professional sports team but getting close.

Secondly, I don't know if you missed it, but you might have noticed the headlines popping up over the last few decades how the unions involved in North American auto manufacturing were often wringing every last dime out of labor negotiations. The wages earned by many average auto workers were the serious envy of many around the North American continent who needed a great paying job and didnt want to spend thousands of dollars and several years in school to get it. Between benefits and overtime even the poorly informed around North America knew in their heart of hearts that the North American automotive industry was paying their relatively uneducated line workers huge amounts of money that were unobtainable in just about any other industry with the same education level. We all knew, or should have known it couldnt keep going forever. Sooner or later something would break, and it did.

Thirdly, and most importantly, GM had competition of the most serious kind. Not just North American competition, but Japanese competition, German competition, Korean competition and even some others. Powerhouse competition that was more then ready to choke GM out, given any chance at all.

The two situations were not simply immensely different, they are noticeably different and the writing of GMs potential woes were clear obvious and written on the wall for ages if anything went wrong. And it did.

Don???t try making it sound like just because GM almost went under that the same could hold true for MS at anytime in the near future because one situation has less than zero to do with the other. In fact the situations are so different the facts actually indicate the opposite.
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RE: Intel distributes LibreOffice, can Microsoft be pleased?
Return_of_the_jedi Updated - 23rd Feb
Everyone is kicking Microsoft as if they are a small puppy.

PS. M$ has no more bite.
@Return_of_the_jedi
add Oracle with its 'Open office' to the lame software.
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Open Office
deowll 25th Feb
I believe the two have parted ways.
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Trading down
tonymcs@... Updated - 23rd Feb
It's a little like Rovio being worried about someone bringing out Artillery to compete with Angry Birds wink
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errrr
Gisabun 24th Feb
Errr. Biased a bit there? Exactly who is "kicking" Microsoft? More like everyone kicking Google and Apple.
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ummm
AmraLeo 25th Feb
Umm, touchy a bit there? The article is about LibreOffice and Microsoft Office and has nothing to do with Google and Apple...
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They are trying to launch Win8. No more security there, just redo the icons. It still does the same old thing. Who's going to buy it unless they are forced to?

There's more rootkits out there now, just in time for the party.

http://pr.efytimes.com/e1/79580/ESET-Detected-New-Version-Of-WinRovnix-rootkit

The Microsoft business model implodes on itself.
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MS ports to ARM
D.T.Long 23rd Feb
Can Intel be pleased?

Two (former and at times law breaking) co-conspirators are finally starting to claw each others eyes out.

How sad (Sarcasm)
@D.T.Long

Nice. Well, while the old world order was MS and Intel, you can take comfort that Google is selling your soul for a buck, and Apple is locking customers in so efficiently that IBM execs from the 60's look like amateurs.

Progress. How sad. (No sarcasm).
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Good for Intel.
itguy10 23rd Feb
If or when Microsoft goes tits-up we will all be better off....
@itguy10 Don't hold your breath... oh wait, nevermind please do!
@ccrockett@...

There are many companies that thought they would never go out of business....

Here's one you probably know - General Motors. Almost went tits up a couple years ago....
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And yet there are many companies
John Zern 23rd Feb Top Rated
@itguy10
that people thought would go ou of business:

Does the name Apple ring a bell?
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Apple is the most valuable company in the world
The Danger is Microsoft 1st Mar
Apple is on top of the heap. Worth over 505 billion dollars (not counting their 85 billion dollar cash on hand!)!
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You will be better off
John Zern 23rd Feb
@itguy10
the majority of the world will not be.

It is too bad you will never know happiness, as Microsoft will not go "tits-up" any time soon.
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You will wait a long time but you are funny.
You even suggesting some possible comparison with MS and GM is a joke. The two situations are so different in so many huge and fundamental ways you might just as well be comparing eggs and pork chops.

First of all, in case you missed it, GM is a company involved in heavy manufacturing. MS is not. At all. In fact there are huge differences between obstacles faced in a company involved in heavy manufacturing and a software company. Perhaps not as much difference as between running a farm and running a professional sports team but getting close.

Secondly, I don't know if you missed it, but you might have noticed the headlines popping up over the last few decades how the unions involved in North American auto manufacturing were often wringing every last dime out of labor negotiations. The wages earned by many average auto workers were the serious envy of many around the North American continent who needed a great paying job and didnt want to spend thousands of dollars and several years in school to get it. Between benefits and overtime even the poorly informed around North America knew in their heart of hearts that the North American automotive industry was paying their relatively uneducated line workers huge amounts of money that were unobtainable in just about any other industry with the same education level. We all knew, or should have known it couldnt keep going forever. Sooner or later something would break, and it did.

Thirdly, and most importantly, GM had competition of the most serious kind. Not just North American competition, but Japanese competition, German competition, Korean competition and even some others. Powerhouse competition that was more then ready to choke GM out, given any chance at all.

The two situations were not simply immensely different, they are noticeably different and the writing of GMs potential woes were clear obvious and written on the wall for ages if anything went wrong. And it did.

Don???t try making it sound like just because GM almost went under that the same could hold true for MS at anytime in the near future because one situation has less than zero to do with the other. In fact the situations are so different the facts actually indicate the opposite.
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Good for Intel.
itguy10 Updated - 23rd Feb
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RE: Intel distributes LibreOffice, can Microsoft be pleased?
Loverock Davidson- 23rd Feb Below threshold | Show anyway
I don't think Microsoft gives a damn. No one has heard of this Intel app store much less go to it. I didn't know it existed until this article and lets face facts, no one really reads your articles so that's not much of a threat. Besides that, if someone were to install libre office they will be just as quick to uninstall it once they see what an ugly interface it has and that it can't open Microsoft Office documents properly. Sure there are claims that its compatible, but only if you have the most basic of documents in which case your better off using notepad. Any Microsoft Office documents with even the slightest hint of formatting does not work well with any of the other office suites. SJVN is trying to make a mountain out of an ant hill.
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@Loverock Davidson-

Still trolling from the basement I see.

I have never had any issues with ANY MS Office documents with LibreOffice. In fact, MS Office can't open any corrupted office file, but I can use LibreOffice to open them and resave them fixed! Now why is that???

You are just not worth spending any more effort to always prove that you are wrong. Keep trying though, probabilities are that just by chance, you just might get something right.
@linux for me While the second half of his rant is a tad overboard, I agree with the first part. It doesn't matter, because nobody even knows that Intel HAD an app store. I know this is the very first time I've heard of it.
@linux for me, I have a friend who is less computer savvy and he was using libreoffice, but couldn't take the incompatibilites any more between that and MS Office, so he saved his money and bought MS Office.
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RE: Intel distributes LibreOffice, can Microsoft be pleased?
Loverock Davidson- 23rd Feb Below threshold | Show anyway
@linux for me
Not only have I heard of the issues of incompatibilities between libreoffice and Microsoft Office but I have seen it as well. If your document was corrupted its because another program, probably libre office changed the file format or you have a bad hard drive. But the proof is there that libre office doesn't work as described and I will not recommend it.
@linux for me

I have the same experiences with LibreOffice. MS Office wouldn't open an XLS file without crashing. LibreOffice opened it just fine. Then saved the new document as XLS. Then MS Office opened it without issue AND the XLS went from over 600Mb in size to just under 200Mb.

Oh, and this document was corrupted while Excel was trying to perform a save. No third party software (unless you want to count Microsoft Windows as a third party software to Microsoft Office 2007) was in play. No extra Excel plugins, just a simple spreadsheet with lookup tables and formulas and a couple of VBA scripts. Excel simply crashed during the save process.
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Reply to benched42. OpenOffice and LibreOffice.
Joe.Smetona Updated - 24th Feb
I understand what you are saying. Microsoft Office generally works, but has a complexity that the FOSS versions don't have. A good example of this complexity is issues with Access when used without matching the MDAC driver versions. This is a tricky process and can cause connectivity to completely fail. There's no doubt MS Office has proprietary connections to the OS way beyond LibreOffice, which functions as a normal program. >> Similar to how IE functions vs. Firefox or Chrome.

My daughter has been using OpenOffice and recently LibreOffice for all of her school assignments since freshman year in HS. She's now finishing her junior year of college and has been on LInux Mint and OpenOffice-LibreOffice the entire time. Bottom Line, these office suite programs work great and save a ton of money.

Teachers and Professors don't care if the electronic version was created in MS Office or with LibreOffice and saved as filetype .doc. On the plus side, you don't have to put up with all the monopolistic tentacles pulling you in to other Microsoft products and "improvements" like .docx.

Most of the documents I create with LibreOffice are saved in the default "open" formats. No problem since the entire family uses Linux with LO, (1 desktop, 3 notebooks, 2 netbooks)

My daughter is using LinuxMint 12 Cinnamon which comes with the latest LibreOffice. This combination is totally free and has resulted in absolutely no "service calls" due to malware or breakdowns. Overall, it's been great to have a student run for so long without any AV and not have interruptions or security issues, all at no cost.

Acer i5 64-bit, LED Backlighting 600GB HDD, HDMI
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Of course they have, Joe.Smetona
Mister Spock 24th Feb
plain
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Reply to Mr. Spock.
Joe.Smetona Updated - 1st Mar
Maybe you can tell me how to get infected? Run out of intelligent things to say?

You are still the one using anti-virus. Right? [3/1/12]
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Agree in part with you.
spdragoo@... Updated - 24th Feb
@Loverock Davidson-

I have no idea what this "AppUp" thing is Intel has going on. Of course, since I've preferred AMD hardware over Intel for over 10 years now, it doesn't really bother me whether Intel decides to "support" a particular app or not.

Edit: Interesting that I get a -1 flag, but the only reply I see is from Loverock, & he seems to be in agreement with me. If what I said was so negative, where's the reply pointing out where I supposedly went wrong?
@spdragoo@...
Even Intel users had no idea about the AppUp thing.
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Agree with you about AMD
thebaldguy 24th Feb
My last two new computers had AMD processors. In fact, I just invested in the company. Seems to me they offer a competitive product to Intel's stuff at a lower price, that's called good business.
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Negative bang
FuzzyBunnySlippers 25th Feb
There's no crying on the internet.
@Loverock Davidson- LibreOffice is awesome in every way but the name. If they had marketing people like Microsoft instead of just awesome software engineers they'd call it something catchie like "LOSuite" and MS would be done.
@Socratesfoot
Its had so many names and they still can't come up with a good one: star office, open office, libre office. At some point you got to look back and say its not in the name, its the software that's making it fail.
@Socratesfoot I think there's more to it than the name. LibreOffice is not even close in productivity when compared to MS Office. Like LD said, it's great for simple document editing, but formatting almost always gets screwed up between documents. I have used OpenOffice and it's cousin LibreOffice on Linux machines because I had to and it was even worse because fonts didn't translate well at all. MS Office is expensive, but for school and businesses it is a must.
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LOL!
jhammackHTH 30th Apr
Keep dreaming you stupid little Microsoft hating twat. LibreOffice is **** compared to Office. It's not even close, and your delusions of LibreOffice putting Microsoft out of business is hilarious.
@Loverock Davidson- what is legendary is your complete lack of knowledge about anything, so no-one cares what you do or don't know about. You are an expert in one field - really bad, childish and repetitive trolling. You never learnt a thing about good clever trolling from Mike Cox.
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Cynical99 23rd Feb
@deaf_e_kate
Yes, I tried Open Office, and since it's roughly the same as Libre, one could say I've tried it as well.

I didn't want to spend a boatload to put MS Office on my computer, my wife's, and three kids in college. We tried Open Office.

I bought 5 copies of MS Office. Compatibility issues drove us all nuts. Features that should be there aren't.

and no, I've never heard of the Intel App Store either so I suspect MS doesn't care.

On that one Steven strikes out, yet again.
@deaf_e_kate
Instead of commenting about the article you decided to insult me. Wow. That says a lot about you.
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MS need not worry
tora201 23rd Feb
@Loverock
Have to agree with you. Compatibility with MS documents still sucks - not that it is the open source community's fault though. But at the end of the day, the fact that compatibility (particularly with PP) is a joke and the interface remains plain ugly, means that MS has little to worry about.
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Not sure where your compatibility problem is. I use OO.o Impress for our presentations every Sunday at church and it works just fine. My pastor is wedded to MS, so I'll convert the OO.o documents to Word or PP when I send anything to him.

It's my understanding that current (?) PP has a mode where you can see your notes on the lap-top while you're projecting your presentation on the screen, but I've never done that (obviously) and I don't even know if LO can do it now. In any case, my lap-top (and Epson projector) doesn't (apparently) support that, so I've never worried over MISSING features.

I saw an article in which a shill was comparing sticking with MS (Win / Office / etc.) vs. switching to Linux. He included the price of Windows & Office as well as (!) VMware for every workstation. Gee Wiz! "Switching" to Linux would be more expensive.

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
It does not matter that no one has heard of the app store, allot of people have now heard that Intel supports LibreOffice(and now know that intel has a store, win win for lo and Intel:-).
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It does matter
Loverock Davidson- 24th Feb
It does matter. If they never heard of Intel's app store they won't know to go to it.
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Don't believe a word of it.
kzahorec@... 24th Feb
MS Office "ribbon" interface is a tortured mess--change only for the sake of differentiating and selling more product. Unlike any other applications on the desktop. Screwed up Window controls--odd behavior. I have had far more problems with MS Office over the years than with LibreOffice. MS Office is heavily restricted, difficult and time consuming to install and update and is very costly--far more typically than the hardware it runs on. On top of that, adding insult to injury, it requires an expensive and heavily restricted desktop OS to run it. Why continue down that dead end road?
I will take a good Linux distro with LibreOffice any day over the alternative proprietary heavily restricted and limited user metered solutions available from the big software vendors. Linux and OpenOffice scale far more for the money, provide far more to the user and business in savings and productivity. Go LO!
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i dont believe what you said
otaddy 24th Feb Below threshold | Show anyway
While the ribbon was a bit of a shock at first, it does work better--but ok, that's my opinion and I can understand some people feel differently.

The rest of your rant is total BS. The "open" solutions are garbage which is why their marketshare is nil. For serious work, Office is the only solution. Likewise, using Windows hasnt prevented me from doing anything I need to do--in fact, Win7 is much easier to use and maintain than Linux.
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LOL
mrefuman Updated - 24th Feb
yes, clicking "next" a few times during install, and then configuring windows update to automatically install updates while you sleep is super hard.
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I'm a touch typist that started on DOS 3.0.. so I'm comfortable with command line etc. I find most people that hate the ribbon hate changes. LibreOffice makes me feel like I"m back on Windows95... brrrr
MS Office is heavily restricted, difficult and time consuming to install and update and is very costly--far more typically than the hardware it runs on

From first hand knowledge I can safely say that it is not difficult and time consuming to install and update, as it is done quite easilly. As for more coastly then the hardware it runs on, it sounds as though your hardware cost less then 150.00 dollars.

Heavilly restriced? Microsoft has never stopped me from using Office to accomplish everythng I have needed it to do.

Your statement would indicate you are not installing Microsoft Office, as your facts do not match the real world attributes of Microsoft Office.
plain.
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MS office
deowll 25th Feb
I've installed hundreds of copies of MS Office with no problems as long as the OS and hardware met the spec. Never saw an issue with updates.

It does have a lot more bells and whistles than Open Office/Libre Office but then if you use them on large documents the documents tend to fail. To me that rather defeats the purpose.

I'm talking about a school improvement plan that ran to many pages and needed to be updated. Katie Ridgway had beautifully formatted the document but when Joan Hill started trying to edit her part to update it for the next round it broke. At that point it ceased to be a thing of beauty and became a freaking nightmare.

I do know that the older versions I'm familiar with even when used to create long simple documents (I write SF for my personal amusement.) tend to be way longer than they need to be and are obviously storing a lot of crap it should not be. After a lot of editing they can get flaky and I use OpenOffice/Liberia Office to fix them. What the newer versions after 2007 do I don't know.

The only reason I've stuck with MS Office is I need it for my job. For my personal use it isn't needed. I've stopped using most of the really fancy stuff because it makes the much edited documents unstable. After I retire I may decide to switch. I've used all my installs of MS Office 2007 and I don't see much reason to buy a newer version when free software will do what I want. My bad the netbook is running Open Office so I guess I have an install to go but sooner or later MS is going to retire 2007.
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You're still alive?!
tek_heretik 24th Feb Below threshold | Show anyway
Lovekok, I am surprised nobody hasn't kicked your teeth in yet, lol, then again, you don't need teeth to type, heh. Just exacltly how does Ballmer's feces taste when you lick it off your nose? ,,l,,
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Hee-hee-hee-hee
thebaldguy 24th Feb
Can't wait to see your comment ratings, LD!

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