Microsoft JQuery adoption is an open source tipping point

Microsoft JQuery adoption is an open source tipping point

Summary: This does not mean Microsoft, or Nokia (which has also adopted JQuery), are going away. In the present business environment their cash hordes and market positions are stronger than ever. But on the other side of the crisis it's an open source world.

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old JQuery logoThe decision by Microsoft to add JQuery to its Visual Studio may seem like no big deal, but it strikes me as evidence we are on the other side of an important tipping point in tech history.

The war between business models is over. Open source has won.

We are now negotiating terms of the peace treaty. Microsoft believes JQuery enhances the basic Visual Studio product. That's why they're using it.

At The Universal Desktop, Ryan Stewart says this move, and support for ADO.Net, makes it much easier for Javascript developers to include the Microsoft Data Services stack. That's what is in this for Microsoft.

When Microsoft needs open source software, and open source developers, to retain market share that's a very big deal. Someone just got embraced and extended, and I think it was Microsoft.

This does not mean Microsoft, or Nokia (which has also adopted JQuery), are going away. In the present business environment their cash hordes and market positions are stronger than ever.

But on the other side of the crisis it's an open source world.

Topics: Open Source, Microsoft

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  • Optimist

    Another way to express your contention is that Microsoft has decided open source is so insignificant a threat that it can be used when convenient without any danger of lost revenues and profits. As a business model open source has peaked and the issue now is only how long it can continue before contributors lose interest.

    The way to decide between these alternative assertions is whether Microsoft has decided to forego present and future profits and acknowledge an open source victory. So far, Mr. Ballmer appears to be sanguine about the future prospects of the company which employs him.

    I suppose the decision in the contest will be officially declared only when Microsoft removes the line about open source representing a distant potential threat from the company's federal filing. And that will come only when Microsoft's - and capitalism's - antagonists give up complaining about the non-adoption of open source as a lost cause.
    Anton Philidor
    • There is no sign that open source is peaking. On the contrary, as adoption

      increases, interest only increases. The use of open source software in general is going nowhere but up.
      DonnieBoy
    • Open source is not antagonistic to capitalism

      I wish Microsoft's defenders would stop repeating this
      FUD that open source is some form of communism.

      It is not. FOSS may seem antagonistic, based on the
      rhetoric used by people like Richard Stallman, but it
      turns out FOSS licenses can be more profitable than
      any other.

      Open source is a business model. It is not a business
      model that delivers the greatest profit, true. But it
      works. Business models that work for customers are
      more valid than those which work just for vendors.

      That's called capitalism.
      DanaBlankenhorn
      • Contradiction

        I observed that some antagonists of capitalism were supportive of open source. You disagreed at first, but then commented, "FOSS may seem antagonistic, based on the rhetoric used by people like Richard Stallman..." That to me is sufficient agreement.

        Yes, there are ways that open source can be used to make a profit because it's a form of development which reduces expenses. (I leave out a number of other situations, such as applications which run on open source and proprietary. These are not open-source-specific.)



        You also contradicted youreself when you observed first that "FOSS licenses can be more profitable than any other", but then that, "It is not a business model that delivers the greatest profit, true."

        That's a disadvantage, especially in a situation like that of the software industry now, when the participants are largely reduced to a few large corporations and some smaller outfits waiting to be purchased.

        But the owners of open source companies can make a substantial profit for an individual from selling the software developed under his aegis. So open source can be effective capitalism.


        People are adaptable. They can make money from any demand. Including that for open source. What was originally intended to be hostile to capitalism (a system addressing production, not use) can be and has been turned to capitalist purposes. That's a situation with which even Microsoft can be comfortable.
        Anton Philidor
  • That is quite a stretch

    [i]The war between business models is over. Open source has won[/i].

    Actually, Microsoft has won.

    Open source was/is about destroying Microsoft and other proprietary software companies, and as you have mentioned right here, companies like Microsoft's position in the market is as strong as ever.

    Look at the various OpenSource foundations and companies that while not placing Microsoft's name directlly into their EULA, pretty much every press conference calls them out by name.

    Who is actually winning here if the Open Source cards are tipped in a certain direction and Microsoft [i]still[/i] manages to sell billions of dollars worth of products?
    GuidingLight
    • FOSS are still fools dancing on the string

      held by IBM, Google and so on. Now M$ finds the string trick interesting and wants to play it, too. They may adopt some open source ideas but won't open up their money making software's source code to let the outside to contribute to it, which is text book closed-source and proprietary practice.
      LBiege
      • Do not confuse

        generosity with stupidity.

        Microsoft has used and abused Open Source all along.

        http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/06/27/010627hnmsfree.html

        Microsoft uses open source, despite critical stance

        By Matt Berger
        June 27, 2001 12:10 pm PT

        DESPITE MICROSOFT'S AGGRESSIVE criticism of the open-source movement -- most notably one of its flagship software licences, the GNU General Public License -- the company has quietly been publishing source code under that license for one of its own products for the past two years.

        Now Microsoft can see the inevitable, and will stop at nothing to disparage the competition, which moves forward with no effort.

        Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Now you, Blindlight, Antwon, and company, can fiddle while Redmond burns.
        Ole Man
        • Nice analogy

          [i]Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Now you, Blindlight, Antwon, and company, can fiddle while Redmond burns. [/i]

          Very stylish noted
          TedKraan
  • RE: Microsoft JQuery adoption is an open source tipping point

    I can understand why you feel that way. But Microsoft
    has been gradually adding open source to its products
    in order to remain relevant. To me that says they are
    losing -- they can no longer resist open source.

    To you it may mean that they're absorbing open source
    into their existing model, and over the short term I
    do expect Microsoft to do well, relative to other
    companies.

    But the tipping point in my mind has been passed.
    Microsoft is no longer fighting open source, but
    applying it.
    DanaBlankenhorn
    • Open Source a business model???

      business model is a model to make money.

      Open Source is a license model in which the sourcecode of a program is delivered when you either download it(free) or buy it and download it (commercial software).

      What is this Open Source business model everybody seems to mention?

      Or is this the aftermath of the dot com hype crowd delusions that seems to wail around?

      When every "captain" which couldn't even operate a compass were jumping onto the boat?
      TedKraan
  • RE: Microsoft JQuery adoption is an open source tipping point

    I don't see the "crisis" mentioned. Nor do I see anything new or unusual there.
    twaynesdomain-22354355019875063839220739305988
  • RE: Microsoft JQuery adoption is an open source tipping point

    When Microsoft needs open source software, and open source developers, to retain market share thats a very big deal. Someone just got embraced and extended, and I think it was Microsoft.<a href="http://ipadbagblog.com/"><font color="white"> k</font></a>
    zakkiromi